Or how do you get rid of far right Zionism that wants all of Israel to be a Jewish only state and stop those terrorist settlers that created this latest problem?

So...

If, (gods forbid,) we somehow 'get rid' of Israel...

What war would Iran create next so as to keep Iran as a war state and to keep those Iranian leaders of the warmongers in power forever?...

Who would we scapegoat next?


What positive solution is there (special note for the "without holocaust or genocide")?...

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Quite a resume:

Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar killed in surprise encounter with Israeli forces


How true/realistic are those numbers from Hamas?...

And people be damned?


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If, (gods forbid,) we somehow 'get rid' of Israel...

What war would Iran create next so as to keep Iran as a war state and to keep those Iranian leaders of the warmongers in power forever?...

Easy Sunni, Shia, Whabbi, Salafi, Berelvi, Sufi and Deobandi would be at each others throats. As long as they have a common enemy they don't need to fight each other.

Easy Sunni, Shia, Whabbi, Salafi, Berelvi, Sufi and Deobandi would be at each others throats. As long as they have a common enemy they don't need to fight each other.

I read a similar statement from an Arab Israeli. But all the peoples you listed there are supposedly Arabs. Their disunity, mutual hostility and religious fragmentation are well known. It was expoited by the British to destroy the Ottoman Empire in WW1. Likewise, the fact that the Emirates, for example, protect their mosques with security personnel and explain to astonished tourists, the Western conception of churches (e.g. worldwide hierarchy, authority of a Pope; tolerance to e.g. Protestants or Orthodox) leads us to assume something similar in Islam. In reality, mosques in islamic countries are at risk of being damaged or destroyed by other islamic factions with deviating beliefs; because what deviates must be destroyed.

But what I never understood is the Mullah regime's hostility to Israel. Iran today is the only islamic country with a Jewish minority. They enjoy religious freedom. Iranians are not Arabs but Persians, an ancient culture, most of the time a united Empire since thousands of years. As long as Persia was reigned by a King (or Shah) they were cooperating with Israel. Mullahs came to power in the revolution of 1979. Since then US and Israel are the arch enemies of Iran.

But why?

Is there a deeper historical reason or is it just because Israel supported the former Shah (suppressing religious fundamentalist Mullahs) and the questionable former US influence in Iran Persia before 1979 because of oil? I don't understand what drives todays hostility of the Mullahs.

There will never be peace in Israel while these actions keep on going on.

West Bank villagers return to shattered Zanuta with keys but no homes.

Steal all the land from the river to the sea.

The early people who then became known as Israeli actually added a great wealth to the region in the 1800's by completely legally and fairly BUYING large parcels of land.

Shame about how things turned when WWI and WWII rolled across that region...


... And what did the Romans do for us?...

Choose your history?


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BUYING large parcels of land.

Buying land doesn't make a Zionist government that excludes others and annexes by force.

The early people who then became known as Israeli actually added a great wealth to the region in the 1800's by completely legally and fairly BUYING large parcels of land.

The people who bought lands were, compared to Arabs and Oriental Jews, wealthy, educated Europeans who established a new, progressive, industrialized Jewish society in their original homelands (like returning Aliens from Mars). The people who sold them vast lands were Arab landlords, regional princes in the Ottoman Empire. Arab property structure in Palestine was distributed similarly unfair as in 19th century Ireland. [*]

[*] Imagine a large-scale migration of well-funded Englishmen into Ireland, end of 19th century. The cultural difference between rural, Catholic Irish and working-class, protestant Brits probably was much smaller.

Already in the 1920s European immigration caused deadly pogroms by Arabs against Jews (also enfuriated by demands of a minority of European Jews to establish Communism) as well as retribution. But Jews not just bought fertile lands; instead vast areas of uninhabited lands in desert regions, previously useless for traditional Arabs (e.g. to graze sheeps). Tel Aviv was built into the desert outside of the ancient city Jaffa. The economic boom triggered migration of landless Arabs (Muslim & Christians) from Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt as well as Oriental Jews from Northern Africa and Turkey into existing majority Arab cities in Palestine (Gaza, Jaffa, Haifa) and new urban centers, build by Ashkenazi Jews.

Zionists were either naive to believe they could build European cities in the desert from which everyone would benefit and live in peace, independent of origin and religion. This led to a hierarchical social structure (owners of land/buildings at the top, landless, migrant workers at bottom); back then therefore also to communist ideas (e.g. Kibbuzim). From today's perspective a clash of civilizations seemed inevitable, maybe not so from a past, 19th century perspective.

It cannot be ruled out that the masterminds of Zionism had already foreseen this in the 19th century; and considered a sovereign Jewish state as inevitable from the beginning. It became possible with the destruction of the Ottoman Empire in 1922/23. Jews took their chance in 1948. Arabs in Palestine have not... to this day. They are still immature tools (victims), caught in the claws of a few remaining (and non-Palestinian!) powers (Qatar?, Kuwait?, Mullahs!) to destroy evil Israel.

BUYING large parcels of land.

Buying land doesn't make a Zionist government that excludes others and annexes by force.

Violence, terror and frequent pogroms against Jews in Eastern Europe as well as the Middle East created the Zionist movement. Holocaust surely was the decisive argument which led to 'support' from major powers for a Jewish nation state. But a Zionist government was only established AFTER an Arab war of annihilation (1948) and Israel's fortunate victory.

Anexation (e.g. of formerly Syrian Golan Heights) was a direct consequence of further Arab wars against Israel where anexed territories were used as staging grounds, in violation of previous ceasefire agreements. Syria refused to negotiate, even today; thus lost the Golan formally in 1982. (Remaining Druze inhabitants were offered Israeli citizenship; most kept the Syrian one but accepted residence permit in Israel... no exclusion of others in anexed territory).

Occupation (which is not anexation*) is also a direct consequence of many Arab wars and decades of deadly Palestinian terror against Israel.

[*] After decades and hundreds of thousands of occupant settlers it increasingly seems unrealistic to remove all of them with a peace treaty. Who is responsible? Just Israel?

But, but but... it is the Israeli occupation which triggers the terror. It seems to be a 'chicken or the egg dilemma'. Unresolvable?

There are two ways to end the occupation:

1. With a peace treaty (two state solution) or
   
2. the destruction of Israel (from the river to the sea...).
   

Until Arabs (and Mullahs) finally confess (2) won't work, it is (3) the Israeli one state-solution with few autonomy for reasonably peaceful Palestinians. Meanwhile West Bank settlers are multiplying like...

Meanwhile West Bank settlers are multiplying like...

[both sides to build up that decisive army] Just what the world needs to reduce carbon emissions. Perhaps 2 is correct.

Meanwhile West Bank settlers are multiplying like...

[both sides to build up that decisive army] Just what the world needs to reduce carbon emissions. Perhaps 2 is correct.

Arabs have repeatedly shown they are incapable to achieve (2), even with vast support from USSR, now Iran. Their earlier attempts (1960s... 1970s) at least looked promising in terms of numbers, not so in practice. Since then they have been throwing needles at a lion. Why continue this nonsense?

What massive CO2 emissions could be avoided if the Arabs would no longer force Israel to roll tanks through Gaza or F15 jets into Lebanon?

Imagine a lasting peace; that would put pressure on defense spending; far less money for military manoeuvers or training flights.

It's time for the words to end and the actions to begin.

US top diplomat issues warning to Israel over Gaza aid.

North Gaza polio vaccinations delayed due to strikes and displacement.

As another Israeli speaks out about the IDF war crimes.

IDF soldiers should refuse orders that may be war crimes, Israeli ex-security adviser tells BBC.

Arabs have repeatedly shown they are incapable to achieve (2), even with vast support from USSR, now Iran.

Would they be successful if the USA didn't supply massive quantities of arms to the Zionists?

Arabs have repeatedly shown they are incapable to achieve (2), even with vast support from USSR, now Iran.

Would they be successful if the USA didn't supply massive quantities of arms to the Zionists?

Without early French, later US arms supplies, Israel would have succumbed to its enemies, probably in 1967... definitely in 1973. Without US support today, Israel would be overwhelmed by raining missiles, and destructive air raids from Syria and Iran, helpless without a modern airforce... There would be no deterring Israeli tank force without American, later German diesel engines, transmission gear, ...

Have you ever investigated the origin of Arab armies' arms... in the Cold War or of Hamas' and Hezbollah's today? It was always them, who armed and attacked first. Or rather it was the Soviets, later Iran which supplied them with incredible quantities of tanks (thousands), artillery systems, many hundreds of fighter jets, and inexhaustible supplies of ammunition. What arms did the Arabs produce themselves during the Cold War? What Hamas and Hezbollah today? Almost nothing. It's not the Zionists or the US who forced Arabs to repeatedly wage wars. The Soviets wanted to control the Middle East by force, now Iran. So they armed their clients Egypt and Syria to the teeth, builtup massive tank armies and air forces, on paper many times superior to Israel's military. Soviets supported Arab terrorism in the Middle East, Europe and beyond.

During Yom Kippur War of 1973 our East German regime (supposedly ordered by Kremlin) operated a fighter squadron (12 Soviet made MiG 21) in Syria. Before, they removed all German writings; repainted their jets in Syrian camouflage, and disassembled them for transport to Syria, where the jets were quickly reassembled. Deployed German fighter pilots were kept on high readiness alert throughout the war; almost fighted against Israeli Airforce. Irresponsible. Imagine a German pilot... shot down and captured in the Golan... less than 30 years after the Holocaust.

With the ceasefire our regime insisted on their pilots' immediate return, against Syrian demands. Syria kept our jets as a 'solidarity' gift. PLO's Yassir Arafat was also a frequent official state visitor here until 1989. Trade relations, youth exchange? Pah.... Everything these folks were ever interested in was explosives and arms. We supplied PLO and Syria for two decades with small arms, ammunition, grenades, RPGs; of course hidden, unknown to the public. The revolution in East Germany (storming of intelligence headquarters in Jan 1990) led to the publication of these smelly state secrets.

Source (in German): "In geheimer Mission gegen den jüdischen Klassenfeind" (Secret Mission against Jewish Class Enemy), BPB - Federal Agency for Political Education, 2023.

Instead please imagine the opposite: What would have happened to Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan; now Lebanon, Iran without their massive quantities of arms? Peace.

I see Hamas are still at it, even after they have convinced, those who don't check the facts, that the IDF is responsible for the attacks on Hospitals and Schools that are killing thousands of 'civilians'.

Israeli troops capture around 100 Hamas militants in north Gaza hospital, military says

JERUSALEM, Oct 28 (Reuters) - Israeli soldiers captured around 100 suspected Hamas militants during a raid in Kamal Adwan hospital in northern Gaza, the military said on Monday.
Gaza health officials and Hamas have denied any militant presence at the hospital, which Israeli forces stormed on Friday and left on Saturday.
"The soldiers apprehended approximately 100 terrorists from the compound, including terrorists who attempted to escape during the evacuation of civilians. Inside the hospital, they found weapons, terror funds, and intelligence documents," the military said.
Gaza's health ministry said the troops had detained dozens of male medical staffers and damaged the hospital, which had already been struggling to operate with heavy Israeli raids in the area.
"A few of the fully identified terrorists disguised themselves as medical staff so we didn't have any alternative but to check the medical staff as well," a military official told journalists in an online briefing.

All Palestinian males are regarded by Adolf Benji's mob as being Hamas and they are not beyond planting false evidence either.

One medic left at Gaza hospital as Israel says it arrested 100 ‘terrorists’.

All done in order to try and cover up for their genocidal actions.

South Africa’s legal team says ‘intent is clear’ in Israel’s Gaza genocide.

One medic left at Gaza hospital as Israel says it arrested 100 ‘terrorists’.

In the video, the authenticity of which could not be verified by the BBC, the alleged driver's face is blurred. The man says Hamas militants operated in the hospital.

He says Hamas used ambulances to transport militants to their missions and adds: "We have had enough. [Hamas] are stationed in the hospitals, stationed in the schools."

[UN human rights chief] also said it was unacceptable that Palestinian armed groups were reportedly operating among civilians, including inside shelters for the displaced, and putting them in harm’s way.

One medic left at Gaza hospital as Israel says it arrested 100 ‘terrorists’.

Did you read the last line of the quote in my post? I'll repeat it, just so it is clear.

"A few of the fully identified terrorists disguised themselves as medical staff so we didn't have any alternative but to check the medical staff as well," a military official told journalists in an online briefing.

I'm sorry, but I don't accept a statement by "a [single, un-named} military official" as conclusive, without independent verification.