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Message 2149253 - Posted: 24 May 2025, 2:28:00 UTC

Well this horrific moron is not helping his people in the eyes of the world. All he's doing is just adding fuel to anti-Israel and antisemitic fire.

An Israeli politician has broadcast shocking comments about babies being killed during a live interview with on local TV.

“Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas,” far-right Israeli politician Moshe Feiglin declared on Wednesday.

“We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory.”...........
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Message 2149262 - Posted: 24 May 2025, 11:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 2149253.  
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That is a very sad reflection upon how Hamas, over their years of tight control of that area, has weaponized the people and instilled hatred into, and for, everything that is Gaza...


How can we undo a hateful indoctrination of a lifetime in Gaza?

All in our deadly political world...
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Message 2149270 - Posted: 24 May 2025, 15:23:34 UTC - in response to Message 2149253.  

The truth, that they learned the lesson from Adolph. Now they need his punishment.
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Message 2149329 - Posted: 26 May 2025, 21:49:45 UTC

And this bit of annual provocation needs to come to an end as well and the participating animals jailed.

Israelis chant 'death to Arabs' in annual 'Dance of the Flags' march through Jerusalem.

Young Israeli nationalists have torn through Jerusalem's Old City chanting "death to Arabs" and harassing Palestinians ahead of the yearly commemorations for the capturing of East Jerusalem by Israel.

Thousands took part in the Jerusalem Day "Dance of the Flags", marching to Damascus Gate and onwards to the Western Wall on a hot Monday evening.

The event is provocative to the Palestinian population, given it marks the anniversary of Israel seizing East Jerusalem and the Old City during the 1967 war, and the group marches through the Muslim Quarter of the Old City demanding the Arab population leave.

In the shadow of the Gaza war, one of the most prominent banners held by those marching read "Jerusalem in our hands, 1967. Gaza in our hands, 2025".......
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Message 2149330 - Posted: 26 May 2025, 23:14:50 UTC - in response to Message 2149329.  

Meanwhile...

Every week at Friday prayers, the chants ring out raucously clear from loud speakers at high volume to proclaim death to all those "Infidels" not of that particular religion...

... At every service preached to the faithful...


How can that be defused?

Instead, can we be Excellent to All and Everyone?

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Message 2149347 - Posted: 27 May 2025, 8:54:29 UTC
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Those who proclaim death to "infidels" are clearly followers of that religion. But the vast majority of this religion's believers are earnest, reconcilable people, if we look in different parts of the world. So I say, it's not about the religion, but about a tendency among a specific group of them... not easy to define. It's about origin, migration movements in past centuries; a specific culture, ...

Example: The Bosniaks, a slavic ethnic group on the Balkans in SE Europe. They adopted Islam under centuries of Osman rule; it became a moderate European variant striving for understanding and coexistence. They speak Bosniak, a variant of Serbocroatic. Significant migration of Osmans (Turks) too... Over the centuries this region became a melting pot of different religions, but less different cultures and languages. The sovereign changed over time from Osman Sultan to the Austrian Emporer in Vienna; later a multhi-ethnic kingdom of Southern Slavs "Yugoslavia"... then socialist republic...

Catholic Croats, Orthodox Serbs and Muslim Bosniaks often lived in the same villages; respected each other as neighbours. There were regions with a majority of each or these ethno-religious groups.

This ended quickly in the 1990s with a nationalist delusion of the Serbian state government who felt superior and tried to establish a Greater Serbia comprising all territories inhabited by ethnic Serbs. A difficult endeavour on a territorial map which since centuries was a true patchwork of numerous ethnic enclaves and exklaves. Btw. this nationalism already triggered WW1 (wouldn't say "caused"... but triggered).

A couple of limited and nasty civil wars; thousands death. Lots of destroyed churches and mosques. Trust in each other's peacefuleness destroyed for generations... What happened next? An influx of aid money from the Middle East to rebuild mosques, support oppressed Bosniak Muslims, education of Imams; foreign Imams, teaching Arabic (the Prophet's true language). Suddenly mosque communities were founded that preached the Wahabites variety... thriving among the Bosniak youth; while the Elders, rational rural, that is, conservative sceptics.. kept their distance. A remarkable number of brainwashed young Bosniaks ended in the Holy Wars against the West in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How many muslims from Indonesia, Malaysia, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang, Bangladesh, India, ... proclaim "Death to all infidels"? Where do most of the lunatics that express such demands come from?

Stopping the intolerable behaviour, resp. threats of fundamentalist islamists require to call things how they are and to enforce rules of what's acceptible and what is not. They even do this in UAE, or e.g. Saudi Arabia...

Unfortunately, Hamas is the regional offspring of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood movement, which is still suppressed or banned in many Sunni Arab countries. While the Brotherhood became a more concilant political power over time... Hamas sticks to terrorist madness.
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Message 2149384 - Posted: 28 May 2025, 13:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 2149347.  

... Hamas sticks to terrorist madness.

Sorry, yes...

I should have set the context of: "In Gaza and the West Bank..."

Good summary, thanks. Again it is a game of deadly politics...


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Message 2149386 - Posted: 28 May 2025, 15:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 2149384.  
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I should have set the context of: "In Gaza and the West Bank..."
I thought you were talking about general observations from the Western hemisphere. There are both types of believers, moderate ones and the uncompromising. Not different than in the Middle Ages.

Now it gets tricky: Is there a common view on the "Middle Ages"? When does this "ages" chronology began? When was the Middle Ages? When was it (or still have to be?) overcome by Enlightenment? It seems to me, this chronology varies across countries and cultures.

How to synchronize it in our common "one world"? [becomes off-topic...]
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Message 2149412 - Posted: 29 May 2025, 19:58:38 UTC

Yet the illegal land thieving continues.

Israel announces major expansion of West Bank settlements despite sanctions threat.

Israel's government has approved 22 new Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank despite some Western countries threatening targeted sanctions.

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, an ultra-nationalist who advocates for Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank, said on Thursday the new settlements would be located in the northern area of the West Bank but did not specify where.

Israel's Defense Ministry said that among the new Jewish settlements, existing "outposts" would be legalised and new settlements would also be built.

"[It] strengthens our hold on Judea and Samaria [West Bank], anchors our historical right in the Land of Israel, and constitutes a crushing response to Palestinian terrorism," Defense Minister Israel Katz said.

He added it was also “a strategic move that prevents the establishment of a Palestinian state that would endanger Israel".......
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Message 2149466 - Posted: 31 May 2025, 8:17:49 UTC

They will never stop killing.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll wrote:
Nearly half of Israelis support army killing all Palestinians in Gaza, poll finds
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Message 2149484 - Posted: 31 May 2025, 22:58:30 UTC

What are the polls like for Gaza?

I heard that a majority there is advocating 'from the river to the sea…‘; the ‚Endlösung der Judenfrage‘ (Final Solution to the ‘Jewish Question‘).
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Message 2149535 - Posted: 2 Jun 2025, 22:39:30 UTC

Even blind Freddy could see this happening. Do you want a bullet with that?

UN calls for investigation into killings near Gaza aid distribution site.

The UN secretary-general has called for an independent investigation into the killing of Palestinians near an aid distribution centre in Gaza on Sunday, amid disputed reports that Israeli forces had opened fire.

Witnesses reported being shot at while waiting for food from the centre in Rafah run by the US and Israel-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF).

The Red Cross said its hospital received 179 casualties, 21 of whom were dead. The Hamas-run Civil Defence agency put the death toll at 31.

On Sunday, the Israeli military denied its troops fired at civilians near or within the site and said reports to this effect were false......
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Message 2149536 - Posted: 3 Jun 2025, 0:55:39 UTC - in response to Message 2149535.  

On Sunday, the Israeli military denied its troops fired at civilians near or within the site and said reports to this effect were false......
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Message 2149549 - Posted: 3 Jun 2025, 16:58:54 UTC
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What did supposedly happen in Gaza?


  1. Israel started to establish aid distribution points, operated by U.S. contractors who employ Arab speaking Iraqis. So, they lure masses of poor, starving Gazans into their distribution point, err... death traps. As soon as enough Gazans have gathered within, the IDF started to fire on the crowd from all angles, (as claimed by Palestinian witnesses and reported by the media) including from tanks, quadcopters, helicopters, ships off the coast, to complete their genocide.

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  2. Hamas folks aren't happy that there are now powerful, armed operatives in Gaza supplying their serfs with aid for free without giving them the opportunity to steal, pillage, and rob most of the supplies to sell them later to Gazans. So they started to ignite some chaos and panic among the masses walking towards the distribution point, tossing stones at civilians, shooting and killing dozens of 'traitors', who intended to accept supplies from Israel... and IDF likely fought the identified armed terrorists.

Obviously, it's (1), because: 'Genocide' is the only convincing argument.

There is evil. Once you know who this evil is, there are only the goodies and the baddies. It's that simple.

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Message 2149557 - Posted: 4 Jun 2025, 0:52:26 UTC - in response to Message 2149549.  

Obviously, it's (1), because:
The press is banned.
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Message 2149565 - Posted: 4 Jun 2025, 12:48:56 UTC - in response to Message 2149557.  

Obviously, it's (1), because:
The press is banned.
The Hamas press is quite active in Gaza; its publishing houses in the West as well.
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Message 2149600 - Posted: 5 Jun 2025, 20:59:52 UTC - in response to Message 2149557.  

Obviously, it's (1), because:
The (free) press is banned.
I had to make that change.

BBC journalists held at gunpoint and strip-searched by Israeli military, says broadcaster.

A team of seven BBC journalists and staff claim to have been held at gunpoint, blindfolded and strip searched by the Israeli Defence Force in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

The BBC said its crew, which included staff members and three freelancers, were stopped while filming at a checkpoint in Quneitra, inside the buffer zone between Israel and Syria.

"BBC News Arabic correspondent Feras Kilani, along with three other BBC staff members and three freelance colleagues, were detained for seven hours and held at gunpoint by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)," a BBC statement said.......
Adolf Benji and his Nazi mob do not want the real truth to be known to the outside world.
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Message 2149608 - Posted: 5 Jun 2025, 23:35:29 UTC - in response to Message 2149600.  

The (free) press is banned.
I had to make that change.

BBC journalists held at gunpoint and strip-searched by Israeli military, says broadcaster.
Confirms what I wrote before.
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Message 2149634 - Posted: 6 Jun 2025, 21:52:06 UTC

Well Adolf Benji's band of butchers get caught out yet again, but answer with the same lame excuses.

Israeli army admits to Gaza strike after BBC Verify investigation.

The Israeli military has admitted to BBC Verify that it conducted a previously unacknowledged strike on the al-Mawasi area of southern Gaza, which reportedly killed at least one Palestinian and injured 30 others.

The strike took place on Sunday - hours after 31 Palestinians were killed in an incident near a new aid distribution centre in the city of Rafah, according to the Hamas-run Civil Defence agency.

While reviewing footage purporting to show the incident near the aid distribution centre, BBC Verify identified a separate strike in the nearby city of Khan Younis.

The blast was not previously announced by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), which regularly publishes operational updates online.

It was only when approached by BBC Verify that the IDF admitted it had carried out an artillery strike and said the incident was the result of "technical and operational errors".

They said troops had fired towards a "target" but the artillery had "deviated" and "wrongfully hit the Mawasi area" - a coastal strip of Khan Younis. The IDF did not provide evidence for these assertions.

The IDF rarely acknowledges such "errors". A BBC Verify analysis of statements on the IDF's official Telegram account could only find four previous instances of it admitting to making a "mistake", "technical" or "operational" error relating to the war in Gaza since it began in October 2023......
Meanwhile Adolf Benji isn't only arming "settlers".

Netanyahu confirms Israel arming clans opposed to Hamas in Gaza.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that Israel is arming clans in Gaza that he says are opposed to Hamas.

His comments came after Israeli media reports quoted defence sources as saying Netanyahu had authorised giving weapons to one particular group in the south of Gaza.

Several Israeli politicians have accused Netanyahu of endangering Israeli security.

"What's wrong with this?" Netanyahu says in a short video he's tweeted. "It only saves the lives of Israeli solders", he continues - "and publicising it only helps Hamas".......
And there's no point in trusting ceasefire deals with them either as they'll just ignore them when they want too.

Israel strikes southern Beirut on eve of religious holiday.

Israel has carried out air strikes on Beirut's southern suburbs, saying it was targeting Hezbollah's drone production.

The attack on Thursday night, the eve of Eid Al Adha, one of the most important celebrations in Islam, followed evacuation warnings for several buildings in the area, where Hezbollah is based in the capital. There were no initial reports of injuries.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it had identified a Hezbollah unit producing "thousands" of drones underground, funded by "Iranian terrorists".

The attack occurred despite a ceasefire being in effect between Israel and the armed group for the past six months.

Lebanon's prime minister said he "strongly condemns" the strikes......
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Message 2149638 - Posted: 7 Jun 2025, 0:40:19 UTC
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Are some people falling for Hamas 'fake news'?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/06/bbc-blamed-israel-aid-massacre-single-source/
A BBC report claiming Israeli troops killed Palestinians at an aid distribution centre was based on the accounts of a single Palestinian journalist and a Hamas spokesman, it has emerged.

The White House has attacked the BBC’s coverage of the incident, accusing the broadcaster of taking Hamas’s word as “total truth”.

The BBC’s first report on the June 1 incident said that at least 15 Palestinians had been killed by “Israeli tank shelling and gunfire”, according to “medics and local residents”.

But the “local residents” amounted to one Palestinian journalist, Mohammed Ghareeb, who told the broadcaster that Israeli tanks had approached and opened fire on the crowd queuing for food.

No medics in the article spoke of tank shelling or gunfire, only reporting the number of dead and injured.

...
The first report was published on the BBC News website at 5.15am. The story was updated two hours later to increase the claimed number of fatalities from at least 15 to 26.

The death toll was increased to 31 in a third version of the story, published at 2.12pm. That story was updated to include denials from the Israel Defence Forces and from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which runs the aid distribution centre.

Another update, at 4.23pm, included a denial from an IDF soldier in Rafah, who contacted the BBC to say that Israeli soldiers fired near the crowd but not at them, and nobody was hit.

Finally, at 8.34pm, the headline and opening paragraph were changed to remove references to Israeli tanks and gunfire, instead admitting that the incident was the subject of “disputed reports”.
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