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Message 2143682 - Posted: 5 Dec 2024, 12:57:13 UTC

Ooooer...

Note how the real world numbers show the reality:

Reason Behind the OBSESSION many Muslims have with Israel (and it’s not the Palestinians)


How on Earth do we untangle that mess?...

Instead:

Can everyone be excellent to one another?
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Message 2143876 - Posted: 11 Dec 2024, 7:11:10 UTC

Adolf Benji faces the judges with his clown show in tow.

Israeli PM Netanyahu testifies in corruption trial.
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Message 2144033 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 20:00:57 UTC

And some wonder why the hatred keeps on building against Israel.

Gaza's doctors, journalists and rescuers are dying amid allegations of Israel's 'pattern of impunity'.

"I shall do by my patients as I would be done by," reads the Hippocratic Oath taken by physicians before they begin practising.

In Gaza, everyone could be a patient, including those whose work it is to help or report what's happening: doctors, nurses, rescue workers and journalists.

While essential workers should be protected by the Geneva Conventions, a set of international treaties that prohibit civilians from being targeted by military actions, in Gaza hundreds have lost their lives or been seriously wounded, UN and local health figures show.

This comes amid widespread allegations of Israel's targeting of healthcare and media staff, claims that Israel denies.......
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Message 2144034 - Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 20:15:26 UTC

Two reports out, today, that show the Gaza casualty numbers were inflated, or claimed that the Hamas combatants were civilians.

BBC ‘portrayed Palestinian gunmen killed in Gaza as innocent civilians’

Number of civilians killed in Gaza ‘inflated to vilify Israel’
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Message 2144076 - Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 9:07:17 UTC

Adolf Benji said that he wanted to make friends with Syria's new regime, but here has a twisted way of showing it.

‘Heaviest strikes’ hit Syria as Israel to increase Golan Heights population.

........“Israeli warplanes launched strikes” targeting a series of sites including air defence units and “surface-to-surface missile depots”, said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), in what it said were “the heaviest strikes in Syria’s coastal region since the start of strikes in 2012”.

US-based researcher Richard Cordaro posted to X saying the explosion was picked up as a 3.0 magnitude quake by a magnetometer station at Iznik, Turkiye located 820km from the last site.

“Signal took 12 minutes to travel in the lower ionosphere. That’s about twice as fast as earthquake signals travel,” he wrote.....

....Meanwhile, the Israeli government approved on Sunday, local time, a plan to increase the population of the annexed Golan Heights, while insisting it had no intention of confronting Syria after seizing a UN-monitored buffer zone........
He just loves using U.S. supplied arms to blast the crap out of places while stealing more land doesn't he?
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Message 2144092 - Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 22:22:48 UTC

So...

Why is it that the Syrian Druze wish to become a new part of Israel?

That would then move the Israeli boarder to within 15km of Damascus...


Very curious times...

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Message 2144101 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 1:18:34 UTC - in response to Message 2144092.  

Why is it that the Syrian Druze wish to become a new part of Israel?
Because of Islamist extremists that conquer a collapsed country...

Under normal circumstances such "wishes" are unrealistic, crazy. International law requires a mutually agreed treaty between sovereign countries to move borders. But on the other hand Syria formally is still in a state of war with Israel after it first attacked in 1948; and again in 1967 and 1973... It's not Israel's fault that Syria for fifty years now rejected any negotiations on a peace treaty because of this idiotic Arab "No negotiations with the Zionist entity" ideology. So, borders are moved in wartimes too. The attacked party has better arguments for getting a border change implemented in a peace treaty than the aggressor. Moreover, the victor determines the post-war order.

I don't think Netanyahu would make such a bold move. I doubt the Israeli Knesset would support that. They may sympatize with the Druze's wish; but in the end had to balance the pros (happy Druzes) and (diplomatic) cons. The Golan, annexed from Syria in 1981, is already sufficient to prevent any further attacks from Syrian territory.

These Syrian Druze people better appease the Sunni Islamists who conquered Damascus if they want to continue their normal lives, instead of expressing 'treacherous' wishes.
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Message 2144118 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 13:08:36 UTC

Those who put trust in the Hamas casualty figures should hang their heads in shamel
His report, collated through Hamas’s own registries and Health Ministry websites, illuminates the myriad ways in which the terrorists fudged and manipulated casualty figures with gay abandon – and which world media, including the great and the good of the West, lapped up and repeated verbatim.

Hamas, driven by the same logic of anti-Semitism that powered the ancient blood libel trope, made sure it seemed as if the IDF went after women and children especially. Fox alleges that one way they did this was to list men as women. Adults were also registered as children; twenty-somethings as infants. Natural deaths, in the tens of thousands, were included as well.

And the nub of it: the lion’s share of deaths in Gaza were those of fighting-aged men. This strand of Fox’s analysis shows how, contrary to claims that the IDF targeted civilian populations, the opposite was true, according to his report.

The vast majority of broadcasters, news sites and newspapers ought to hang their heads in shame. Of 1,378 articles published over a four month period in spring 2024 in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian, CNN, the BBC, Reuters, the Associated Press and the Australian ABC, a full 84 per cent did not bother to distinguish between civilian and combatant deaths, Fox found.

A shockingly low 5 over cent of publications released any numbers from the Israelis, while 98 per cent – basically all – exclusively published the Hamas Ministry of Health figures.
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Message 2144126 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 18:25:44 UTC

Your link does not attach to any story at all W-K , it just goes to Yahoo's main page and no amount of searching finds that story on their site, and if by "Fox" is meant to be Rupert's fake news then you got hooked by his B.S. left, right and centre there, but you get that when you read far too much right wing conservative sources.

Maybe Yahoo worked out that it was fully fake news and removed that story you linked?
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Message 2144130 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 19:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 2144126.  

Your link does not attach to any story at all W-K , it just goes to Yahoo's main page and no amount of searching finds that story on their site, and if by "Fox" is meant to be Rupert's fake news then you got hooked by his B.S. left, right and centre there, but you get that when you read far too much right wing conservative sources.

Maybe Yahoo worked out that it was fully fake news and removed that story you linked?


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Message 2144131 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 19:13:07 UTC

Thanks for that Mr. Kevvy.

The U.K,'s conservative Telegraph is almost as bad as Rupert's fake news network and apparently Andrew Fox is well known for his disinformation which says volumes.
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Message 2144138 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 20:28:47 UTC

How many more times are we going to hear this?

Both sides of Israel-Hamas peace talks express optimism for potential truce.

If I was a betting man I'd put money on Israel screwing it up yet again like they have every other time.
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Message 2144140 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 21:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 2144138.  

That is rhe plan so the ethnic clensing can continue.
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Message 2144150 - Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 23:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 2144138.  
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If I was a betting man I'd put money on Israel screwing it up yet again like they have every other time.
Israel is screwing it up while the Hamas peace doves offered a just ceasefire?

No! Hamas still refuses to free the Israeli hostages... There will be no truce until Hamas agrees to release them. All of them.
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Message 2144151 - Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 0:16:46 UTC - in response to Message 2144131.  

The U.K,'s conservative Telegraph is almost as bad as Rupert's fake news network and apparently Andrew Fox is well known for his disinformation which says volumes.
Telegraph is bad because it is conservative, while Al Jazeera is a shining light in the midst of darkness? The spectrum of credible media is wide, from conservative to liberal ones. It is not helpful to reject every undesirable article published in conservative media; to simply dismiss its author as unacceptable, as a disinformation spreader. To do this, the arguments in said article would have to be refuted or at least countered; that is, why are the Hamas figures nevertheless correct while Israel's are false, and where Fox is spreading disinformation in this regard.
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Message 2144159 - Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 2:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 2144131.  

Thanks for that Mr. Kevvy.

The U.K,'s conservative Telegraph is almost as bad as Rupert's fake news network and apparently Andrew Fox is well known for his disinformation which says volumes.

Disinformation is what Andrew Fox studies.
Bio -
Andrew Fox served in the British Army from 2005 to 2021, completing three tours in Afghanistan, including one attached to the US Army Special Forces. He served in the Parachute Regiment and the Special Forces Support Group, with additional tours in Bosnia, the Middle East, and Northern Ireland.

After his active service, he spent three years as a senior lecturer in the War Studies and Behavioural Science departments at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. Andrew specialises in Defence, the Middle East, and disinformation. He holds degrees in Law & Politics, Modern War Studies, and Psychology.

His extensive experience has established him as a recognised authority in his field and he provides regular commentary on defence and foreign policy across the media including articles in the New York Post, the Telegraph and Spiked. He has amassed a large following across his digital platforms, including X (formerly Twitter) and Substack, where he writes on disinformation, defence and security as stories develop.


More credible than anything you have come up with.
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Message 2144165 - Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 4:42:01 UTC
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Martin, W-K and McDuck both Andrew Fox and the author of that YouTube link that you provided are both well known to regularly spout Israeli propaganda and misinformation and both are well known for their anti Muslim stances.

Check out their critics to find out why they love going against the grain.

Meanwhile Adolf Benji inspects his latest land grab.

In Visit to Territory Seized in Syria, Netanyahu Says Troops Will Stay.

Now ask yourselves why a great majority of the world is sick of the actions and excuses that Adolf Benji and that extreme Zionist mob backing him and the lies that they want to peddle to the world.

You all show your shock about what delusional Donny and his MAGA mob get up too yet you keep defending a very likely much worse criminal mob (just like PooTin, Xi, Kim and others of their ilk).
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Message 2144178 - Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 14:05:01 UTC - in response to Message 2144165.  
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Wiggo,

Please take greater care with your accusations.

I'm certainly not anti-Muslim. Please identify any offending posts using the red-x and the team of other Moderators will delete those posts forthwith.


Now: No personal accusations please.

Let's keep to verifiable facts.


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Message 2144192 - Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 16:03:57 UTC
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Uuh... just a missing comma or a period... I'm sure Wiggo just accused Fox and the author of the Youtube clip; not me, W-K666 or Martin...

On 'land grab' and 'seized territories'... Israel deployed troops in Syria, as did the U.S. and Turkiye elsewhere. For almost twenty years Israel witnessed how Hezbollah fortified and armed the Lebanese border zone with billions of Iranian dollars for a day 'X' (another October 7th raid into Northern Israel; just ten times more powerful). Israel is not willing to patiently wait if this Al-Julani led HTS rebel force will respect Israel's northern borders. Al-Julani Is an Islamist, a former Al-Qaeda terrorist in Iraq. For years he was imprisoned in U.S. detention camps there before he returned to found the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda. From Israel's position, there is zero trust these people aim at peaceful relations. So, it's easier to seize strategic positions, abandoned by Assad's forces, before the Islamist rebels seize them.

What is urgently needed is a government for Syria that respects the rights of all inhabitants, not just of a coastal minority (Assad's Alawites) and which is willing to agree on peace with Israel. Until that day Israel has to prepare for the worst imaginable outcome of the current takeover of Syria by Islamist rebels.
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Message 2144198 - Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 18:44:32 UTC

Please take greater care with your accusations.

I'm certainly not anti-Muslim. Please identify any offending posts using the red-x and the team of other Moderators will delete those posts forthwith.

Now: No personal accusations please.
I did not accuse anyone here of being anti-Muslim Martin, McDuck got it right, I was only pointing out that those 2 authors being referenced are certainly well known as being anti-Muslim and both actively peddle Israeli propaganda.
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