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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19417 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
IMHO: Don't automatically believe the politically inspired "reporting" of either side's News [sic] Media. Looking at the new page at fivethirtyeight one gets the impression you might be one of few remaining Trump supporters in Colorado. Colorado heads the table Titled, Biden leads nationally and in most swing states |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19417 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
IMHO: Don't automatically believe the politically inspired "reporting" of either side's News [sic] Media. What was bonkers about the polls in 2016? The results were within the normal predicted range, Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump won because of the weird US Electoral college system which is biased to the smaller population states and they are mainly Republican. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3810 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
The results were within the normal predicted range, Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump won because of the weird US Electoral college system which is biased to the smaller population states and they are mainly Republican. With some numbers: Wyoming: Population 578,800 with 3 electoral college votes, each vote represents 578,800/3 = 192,919 people New York: Population 19,450,000 with 29 electoral college votes, each vote represents 19,450,000/29 = 670,690 people Wyoming therefore has 670,690 / 192,919 = 3.48x as much leverage per capita in choosing the President. Again, Canada's not much better with our parliamentary system where the prime minister isn't voted for directly, but instead elected by being the member of the party that wins the most seats. (Ironically, this kept the Conservative from being elected in our last election... he won the popular vote, and IMHO should be prime minister.) The odd part of the U.S. system is that the electoral college is a redundant add-on to this whereas it could simply be the party that wins the most seats in the House. This would be like the electoral college without the electoral college. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19417 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The results were within the normal predicted range, Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump won because of the weird US Electoral college system which is biased to the smaller population states and they are mainly Republican. There is some logic in Canada, the UK and other countries where the leader is chosen by the elected members, in that the leader is leading their party. If the leader was chosen separately it could be that the leader gets nothing done because the majority of the parliament opposes them. Just like the Carter years in the US. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19417 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
BTW: The majority of voter's wanted neither Hillary nor Donald to be President. A fact that is inconvenient for some to acknowledge for the past 3+ years. Just another example of the screwed up system of choosing the Countries leader. And answer the question, What was bonkers about the polls in 2016? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11419 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
IMO very good news, Trump will not be pleased. Supreme Court blocks Trump from ending DACA https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/politics/daca-immigration-supreme-court/index.html |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22555 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
A truth that I think is universal: If one dares to change the way a country's leader is selected then a very vocal group will be outraged; And If it is left it as it is then a very vocal group will be outraged. But most will just shrug their shoulders and carry on Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21298 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Further Trump-isms: John Bolton: White House makes last gasp bid to stop book's release John Bolton: Ten biggest claims in his Donald Trump book ... And we're only in the 'early days' of the run up to the USA voting... Is that any way to run a country? All only in the USA? Stay safe! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31029 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-disconnect-analysi/months-before-election-trump-finds-himself-at-odds-with-most-americans-views-idUSKBN23P1LB But more revealingly, they show a president increasingly disconnected from the American electorate whose views have changed rapidly following the May 25 death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man, while in Minneapolis police custody. *https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85541&postid=2052205 |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31029 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Off the deep end “These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives." Translation: The Constitution is shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21298 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... And the next question of influence comes with: Also note how some groups are 'dependent' on social media and for how vulnerable those groups are to Conspiracies and Fake News: Social media users more likely to believe conspiracies wrote: ... conspiracy theories have been plentiful in recent months. (The focus of that article is regarding news about Coronavirus. However, those figures also highlight the potent poison of so called 'Fake News'. Or in reality, placed propaganda?) We're still yet a few months away from the next 'big vote' in the USA... All only in the USA? Stay safe! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31029 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31029 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Is King Donald an anti-Semite? New York (CNN Business)Facebook (FB) on Thursday said it had take action against ads run by President Trump's re-election campaign for breaching its policies on hate. The ads, which attacked what the Trump campaign described as "Dangerous MOBS of far-left groups," featured an upside-down triangle. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19417 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Off the deep end This isn't going to improve Trump's mood one iota I guess, Trump's bid to end Obama-era immigration policy ruled unlawful The US Supreme Court has ruled against President Donald Trump's bid to end a programme that protects hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from deportation. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Trump doesn't like that John Bolton is writing a book â€The Room Where It Happened†about him. For example it mention that Trump didn't knew that Britain is a nuclear power. That he doesn't know that Finland doesn't belong to Russia. Lot's of more blunders as well. He claims that Trump has repeatedly said he wants to stop criminal investigations as a personal service to dictators he likes. Trump want to sue the publishers or at least stop the publication because he think that information is classified. Trump the world leader first class:( |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21298 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... The Upside Down Triangle used in the ad. Was an ANTI-NAZI designation worn by ANTI-NAZI political prisoner's in their concentration camps... The use of that in any advertisement sounds extremely suspicious and suspect and very suspicious of extreme and nasty motives. Regardless of what the excuse might be or what the supposed claims might be, to even include such symbolism can be seen to be a hateful 'reminder'. There simply is no need for that. Especially so in our already presently fraught times. Is that actually a "Fake" advert deliberately designed to stir up further trouble?... Such hate and stupidity is better left to the past to be noted as one of the more nasty episodes of history never to be repeated. Stay safe! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21298 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... The Upside Down Triangle noted, is not Pro Nazi. It denote's ANTI-NAZISM and people fighting AGAINST the NAZI'S. As what Antifa says it does... ... And oh what a clever blame game and game of anti-memes bad actors play... You can be sure that the symbolism will be subverted and used instead to attack some group or other. All 'just' a 'game' of stirring up trouble between certain groups? Regardless of what the supposed message might be, that looks to be the sort of extremism game to play to stir up trouble. Otherwise, why push such extremism/extreme-symbolism other than to enrage some group or other into causing trouble? There simply is no need for such nasty provocation in advertising. Again, that is all extremely suspicious. Will be interesting to uncover the real sponsors and the real motives behind that... Stay safe! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
The Upside Down Triangle? It is also called a Nabla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabla_symbol Has nothing to do with any Nazi views. But then the swastika is neither... Whatever. Trump is not really a racist or anti-Semite though his father Fred always tried to hide the fact that the family originate from Germany and instead saying they came from Sweden:) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21298 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Trump ... his father Fred always tried to hide the fact that the family originate from Germany... Ahhh... So is that the connection? To stir nasty associations against Trump and to get that in the news with some even more nasty stirred-up rioting? Hopefully the USA is better educated and civilized than to fall for such silliness. Surely? Stay safe! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
There is no connections what so ever of Trump's family origins and to the riots what we see today in the US. I was merely giving descriptions and backgrounds to the so called world leader Donald Trump.... Trump ... his father Fred always tried to hide the fact that the family originate from Germany... |
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