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Message 2047671 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 15:26:40 UTC - in response to Message 2047639.  
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Pendings are gone. Inconclusives too. Some valids still there. I thank you slow crunchers, you hoarders and you deserting black holes. When the last of you is gone and the tasklist finally empty...

And the earth will be without form, and void, and darkness will be upon the face of the deep...

Very good and a very good (mis)quote.

Looks like overnight, the last of the s@h WUs cleared my various old systems:

State: All (144) · In progress (0) · Validation pending (0) · Validation inconclusive (3) · Valid (140) · Invalid (0) · Error (1)


That looks to end this phase of a remarkable search spanning about a quarter century and surviving multiple generations of advances in technology and huge increases in compute power. All driven by the same one team of researchers.


Excellent stuff. Congratulations to everyone involved in whatever way.

Now onwards to whatever next!


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Message 2047672 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 15:33:38 UTC

Not quite completely dead yet!

State: All (4932) · In progress (0) · Validation pending (4) · Validation inconclusive (28) · Valid (4868) · Invalid (32) · Error (0)
I don't think BOINC has a very efficient 'off' switch for when a project wants to do a wrap.
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Message 2047675 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 15:45:03 UTC

It is over
State: All (109) · In progress (0) · Validation pending (0) · Validation inconclusive (0) · Valid (104) · Invalid (5) · Error (0) 

all the invalid Too many errors (may have bug) Too many total results
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Message 2047676 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 15:48:16 UTC

Almost over here 1 lonely inconclusive left.
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Message 2047683 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 16:01:35 UTC - in response to Message 2047672.  
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Well Eric has posted on FB that the project will continue to accept results after the last canonical results are in.

It might have been fairer to grant 75% of original credit up to 3 days after validation, 50% up to 7 days, and 10% up to deadline, when the replication is higher than the quorum.

I think BOINC does have some options for faster cleanup, but the project has to enable them when sending out the re-sends, not when they have already been sent, and there are only 1-2% of wanted results among the million+ still In Progress.
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Message 2047695 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 17:17:34 UTC - in response to Message 2047666.  

. . Adios Juan,

Thanks Stephen. I will keep looking at the forums.
Just only detached the host for Seti. Leaving it, for now, running E@H with 1 GPU enabled only.
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Message 2047698 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 17:23:57 UTC - in response to Message 2047683.  
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Well Eric has posted on FB that the project will continue to accept results after the last canonical results are in.

For what? Credits? What about the talks like: We are here for the science not for credits. Was just bla bla bla?
If the Science DB is closed, or the canonical was already reached, then anything after that is just a waste of crunching & electric power.
Better abort the rest and switch the host, to where that could be useful, like any other project for example.
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Message 2047699 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 17:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 2047698.  

Well Eric has posted on FB that the project will continue to accept results after the last canonical results are in.

For what? Credits? What about the talks like: We are here for the science not for credits. Was just bla bla bla?
If the Science DB is closed, or the canonical was already reached, then anything after that is just a waste of crunching & electric power.
Better abort the rest and switch the host, to where that could be useful, like any other project for example.
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That is what I did with about 14 of mine, because I only have a single GPU that can process about 6 tasks per day. I got about 35 GPU tasks and 0 CPU last week. I had a small enough cache to prioritize the necessary work. Only problem was that the aborts reduce the future sending.
My final Valid result on Android was a nessecary result for the quorum too :)
I've still got 80 completed tasks, 0 Pendings or Inconclusives
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Message 2047700 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 17:49:34 UTC - in response to Message 2047699.  
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Only problem was that the aborts reduce the future sending.

Agree but there will be no more future sending. :(
At least for a long time.
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Message 2047702 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:39:47 UTC - in response to Message 2047698.  
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I would consider it just as polite parting from SETI side.
It's waste of resources of course but will easy social aspect - all participants, especially those who not so involved as posters on these boards, will see that work they receive accepted and credit granted. Good feelings worth a little waste IMHO.
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Message 2047704 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:52:51 UTC - in response to Message 2047702.  

Well stated, DC relies upon the good will of the volunteers.
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Message 2047705 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:54:21 UTC - in response to Message 2047702.  

I'll agree with that.

Also note that the social 'outreach' is an important part of s@h and Boinc. Very successfully too!


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Message 2047721 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 21:39:20 UTC

Well, hold off on the end of crunching for me. I just had over 150 WUs downloaded to the one machine that is still crunching. That will keep it busy for a while longer. Anyone else?
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Message 2047731 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 23:44:50 UTC - in response to Message 2047695.  
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. . Adios Juan,

Thanks Stephen. I will keep looking at the forums.
Just only detached the host for Seti. Leaving it, for now, running E@H with 1 GPU enabled only.

. . In that case I look forward to chatting further. I am also running E@H but on all rigs. It does not evoke the same passion in me but hey the numbers are good :) And I harbour hope that Petri will have the interest to do his magic on their Nvidia app and make a Cuda10 version of it. I would like to see if he can achieve the same speed improvements he did for S@H. E@H might then be in for a bit of server fatigue. :) (or would that be 'server shock')

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Message 2047732 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 23:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 2047702.  

I would consider it just as polite parting from SETI side.
It's waste of resources of course but will easy social aspect - all participants, especially those who not so involved as posters on these boards, will see that work they receive accepted and credit granted. Good feelings worth a little waste IMHO.


. . Yes, closure is a good thing and having your final results acknowledged is a nice way to close.

Stephen

:)

PS, thanks for all your help even when I was probably annoying the c%^p out of you :) I really do love the work you did with SoG. I had lots of fun 'tweaking' it.

Stephen
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Message 2047733 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 23:53:56 UTC - in response to Message 2047704.  

Well stated, DC relies upon the good will of the volunteers.


. . OK, one more time I will prove myself to be dumb, who or what is DC?

Stephen

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Message 2047735 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 23:55:54 UTC - in response to Message 2047733.  

I'm going with "Distributed Computing".
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Message 2047736 - Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 23:57:41 UTC - in response to Message 2047721.  

Well, hold off on the end of crunching for me. I just had over 150 WUs downloaded to the one machine that is still crunching. That will keep it busy for a while longer. Anyone else?


. . Pardon me while I scream ... I have seen that all outstanding tasks had a resend today UTC but, just as over the last few weeks, my 5 machines received NONE of them ... feeling unwanted <sulk>.

. . Well this round should clear up 99.9% of the project.

Stephen

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Message 2047738 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 0:01:35 UTC - in response to Message 2047735.  

I'm going with "Distributed Computing".


. . D'oh! See I knew it would be obvious once pointed out ...

Stephen

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Message 2047739 - Posted: 1 May 2020, 0:09:58 UTC

I've just 6 inconclusives to go now.

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