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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22447 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Something to note - the "repair" procedure for these parts may be exactly the same as the "manufacturing" procedure. This isn't that uncommon where the part has to allow for a build-up of tolerances, and this is often achieved by the use of "fitted holes", shims or the like. The theory behind this goes along the lines "We know there will be the need to fit these parts so they install properly, be it during production, repair or overhaul, thus we will have one procedure to make sure the task is done consistently". Take a part that has a hole that always has to be reamed out by 0.015 inch (+/- 0.002 inch) to fit and the supplier changes that hole so it only needs to be reamed by 0.005 inch (+/- 0.002 inch) then that part supplied does not conform to the OEM drawing, but, once fitted conforms to the required installation tolerance, but the installer is also not complying with the amount of material to be removed by the reaming. But the part, once installed, still complies with the overall fitting requirement....... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19312 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Are the investors getting twitchy? Boeing investors seek answers after latest 737 production glitch WASHINGTON, April 24 (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) is expected to reveal whether the latest 737 MAX manufacturing problem will derail the U.S. plane maker’s annual goals for passenger jet deliveries and free cash flow when it unveils its first quarter financial results on Wednesday. And did we miss this one in March, Boeing 767 freighter, KC-46 tanker face delivery snags due to fuel tank problem WASHINGTON, March 7 (Reuters) - A new supplier problem has stymied deliveries of Boeing's (BA.N) 767 freighter and KC-46 tanker, the company confirmed on Tuesday. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20978 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Thanks for that catch. Don't ya just luv the embarrassment jargon?! ... where two brackets were improperly installed...... As opposed to openly explaining that those two brackets are a lot more than just the sort of brackets used to hold up bookshelves... As in, those two brackets are the aircraft tail fin forward attachment points for keeping the tail fin in place! ... did not complete cleaning and paint adhesion processes...... As in pushed out the door uncleaned and unpainted?... For yet more Boeing FOD with that little extra of corrosion??... Sheesh! High schoolers can do better!! Fly safe??... Martin "FOD": Foreign Objects and Debris. Exactly the sort of left-over manufacturing rubbish you do not want left in your fuel tank, or pipework, or jammed into critical control cabling and flight equipment... See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30927 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
... did not complete cleaning and paint adhesion processes...... As in pushed out the door uncleaned and unpainted?... For yet more Boeing FOD with that little extra of corrosion?? Fixed price contract on Air Force 1. What ya think? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20978 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
The 'legacy' of 1960's equipment meeting the new world of 2023: Air travel chaos looms as US keeps 5G altimeter refit deadline wrote: The US will not delay a deadline for airlines to refit planes with new sensors to address possible 5G interference, despite concerns the cut-off date could cause travel disruption... Meanwhile... There is still the old Boeing 'legacy' of old indicator light bulbs instead of installing the now long standard ECAM/EICAS safety equipment to help pilots in the cockpit... Fly safe?!... Martin See: ECAM EICAS What are EICAS and ECAM Systems on Aircraft? Why Boeing Doesn't Think The 737 MAX 10's Alerting System Needs Changes wrote: ... Boeing's chief aerospace safety officer, Mike Delaney, expressed that there is no data that shows that switching to another alerting system is safer... See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19312 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Why don't aircraft use lidar these days. A professional system can be found, in an on-line search, for under $25,000. Would be more accurate too. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30927 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why don't aircraft use lidar these days. Is it certified for use in aircraft? No. What does it cost to certify it? More that the expected total worldwide sales. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30927 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Interesting about screens. https://futurism.com/the-byte/car-touchscreens-buttons-back |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19312 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Why don't aircraft use lidar these days. And that's the problem, so many times. We wouldn't have the 737Max problem if certification wasn't so difficult and expensive. Instead of designing a modern plane, Boeing kept an old certified design flying, that should have been retired decades ago. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30927 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Not Boeing, the GOVERNMENT! They write the certification standard.Why don't aircraft use lidar these days. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36345 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
And Donny cut a lot of them. ;-)Not Boeing, the GOVERNMENT! They write the certification standard.And that's the problem, so many times.Why don't aircraft use lidar these days.Is it certified for use in aircraft? No. What does it cost to certify it? More that the expected total worldwide sales. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20978 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Not Boeing, the GOVERNMENT! They write the certification standard. ... And it is Boeing that play their silly games to "voodoo magic" around all the good standards to then kill people... Oh wait... Is that why we have minimum standards to be enforced? And why Certification became a thing? Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22447 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Creeping certification :-( Think Grenfell Tower Probably better called lazy certification. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14674 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Worst of all, self certification. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30927 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Worst of all, self certification.Right, I promise my income tax return is correct. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22447 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
I'll audit for you... That's right, hold it up to the screen, left a bit. Yeah, that looks OK to me. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36345 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
FAA Issues Airworthiness Directive To Prevent Loss Of Boeing 777 Horizontal Stabilizer. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has issued its latest airworthiness directive, which aims to prevent the potential loss of the Boeing 777's horizontal stabilizer and will require airline operators to conduct checks of all their 777s for potential cracking. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19312 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Are we going to see more safety issues in the aircraft industry. Know any airplane mechanics? A wave of retirements is leaving some US industries desperate to hire The worrying line in this article is probably, In the airline industry, more than one-third of mechanics are between 55 and 64, according to government data. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36345 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Say what? Boeing accused in lawsuit of stealing trade secrets for NASA rocket. Boeing was sued on Wednesday by a Colorado company that accused the aerospace giant of stealing trade secrets for NASA's Space Launch System rocket, and then building components with "critical" safety flaws that could endanger astronauts. |
Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 1068 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54 |
Say what?A bolt installation tool? Really? Do they still design and build airplanes, or is Boeing now just a holding company that has completely outsourced its engineering capacity? They are building airplanes by breaking down orders into sub-orders for the industry (which at least requires considerable management knowledge). From the delivered sub-orders... some miracles will happen at this point... a new airplane arises. When money is tight in such a situation, management begins to dig through the foul-smelling bag of tricks. |
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