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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30987 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Apollo 1 all over again? https://gizmodo.com/boeing-starliner-astronaut-flight-flammable-tape-nasa-1851359764 The second concern involved hundreds of feet of protective tape used to cover the wiring harnesses inside the Starliner vehicle, which was discovered to be flammable. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Yes, very much so... So, how does Boeing argue the safety of the remaining 10 or 15 percent of flammable tape that has been left in place?... And in more recent news for Boeing: ... FAA Warns Of New Dangerous Max Defect! Yet another "uncontrolled flight" hazard for the pilots that have to guard against far too many other Boeing failures... For this latest failure to occur at low altitude would mean that the pilots have no time to save the plane! And what of the paying passengers? Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3334 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
This could of turned out much worse. Sloppy repairs ... NTSB finds incorrectly ‘swapped’ brake lines on American 737-800 that overran runway in February Federal investigators have cited improper brake maintenance as a factor related to a 10 February runway overrun involving an American Airlines Boeing 737-800 at Dallas Fort Worth International airport. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19375 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Breaking news at NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/business/boeing-ceo-steps-down.html Boeing C.E.O. to Step Down in Major Reshuffle at Embattled Plane Maker |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Stephen Colbert has a few things to say about that: ... Boeing... Enjoy? Fly safe?? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
What?... Yet MORE safety concerns concerning Boeing aircraft!! See, hear: The Anti-Ice System Issues Plaguing The Boeing 737 MAX & 787 Dreamliner wrote: The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has ordered Boeing to fix a design flaw on the 737 MAX ... could disable the engine's anti-icing system without the pilots' knowledge... Yet another single-point-of-failure and a wiring fault that Boeing appear to be completely unconcerned about... And even further unconcerned for the (deadly) consequences...? Fly safe?? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Another summary of Boeing: See, hear: A Decade of Lies, Coverups, and Disasters at Boeing wrote: Over the past half decade it seems that the once venerable aviation giant Boeing has fallen into a state of apathy typically reserved for industries in autocratic corrupt regimes. Disaster after disaster has occurred all because a company wanted to save a quick buck. and now... ... And there are Consequences beyond Boeing: Airbus Unhappy With Boeing wrote: Airbus has expressed its frustrations with Boeing over persistent issues plaguing the manufacturer. Airbus says these problems affect the broader industry, and a healthier Boeing is better for everyone... Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Boeing very much in the news: These are very sage words from: Capt. ‘Sully’ on Boeing’s aviation safety: ‘They have lost their way’ Whoever would have guessed this turnaround?! Ryanair CEO: "I Would Like To Have A Bigger Number Of Airbus Aircraft” Leading to: Ryanair CEO's Rebuke Of Boeing Was The LAST STRAW That Led Boeing To Finally Make Leadership Changes Yet... Will any of the Boeing Board members get to see jail time?... Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22508 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Ryanair CEO: "I Would Like To Have A Bigger Number Of Airbus Aircraft” Given that RyanAir are a "Boeing only" fleet that's a really big statement. (RyanAir have a few ATR for some of their small puddle jumping services.) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22508 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Not only are Boeing facing the internal costs of recent events they are now having to pay money to their customers as a direct result of Boeing's "care less" behaviour: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68737292 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30987 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I'm sure this will be blamed on Boeing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBQkk4RcidA |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19375 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I'm sure this will be blamed on Boeing It's now being reported in the media. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68758088 |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I'm sure this will be blamed on Boeing Indeed, such as this ain't supposed to happen... Boeing Engine Cover Rips Apart During Takeoff This Morning wrote: "... after it ripped off, the engine cowling "struck the 737-800's wing flap."... So... Where does the blame game lead for this one? What life threatening excuses?? Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22508 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
While this one is certainly down to maintenance not tightening all the fastenings after performing their job inside the cowling some sections of the media, and general public will blame Boeing. But in this case Airbus, and others, have had similar problems over the years. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
However... Note that the Boeing design of the engine cowling fixings on the 737 engines (and other Boeing aircraft?) have long been criticised for being too fragile and difficult to check as part of the ground checks. Also, the critical fixings are not easily visible to let the ground crew or pilots positively confirm that everything is correctly in place... A design 'weakness' waiting to kill again?... This isn't the first time these fixings have failed... When to be properly fixed and retrofitted??... Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Meanwhile... Report: Boeing 'Put Wall Street First, Safety Second', Creating 'Yearslong Decline of Safety Standards' wrote: ... new executive leaders "treated experienced engineers and machinists as expendable, ignoring the potential damage to Boeing's essential mission of designing and building high-quality airplanes...."... ... And the rest is the history needlessly killing people today. Fly safe? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19375 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Two pieces of Boeing news from Reuters today. FAA probing Boeing whistleblower's quality claims on 787, 777 jets Boeing deliveries drop by half in March due to increased quality checks |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Thanks for that. Scary... Here's hoping this latest whistleblower doesn't come to an untimely death... Fly safe?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3334 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
This hit the news wires about 1 hour ago.. NTSB conducting new interviews with Boeing on 737 MAX 9 door plug probe ... NTSB Chair Jennifer Homendy on Wednesday said investigators were back at the 737 plant in Renton, Washington, this week for more interviews. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21129 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
More of the deadly same old old-ways: 4 Takeaways About Boeing’s Quality Problems wrote: ... Interviews with more than two dozen current and former employees reveal longstanding concerns about quality, particularly as pressure increased to keep production going in the company’s factories. Boeing somehow managed to get itself into even bigger trouble... wrote: ... Boeing has achieved the unthinkable this week: It managed to fall even deeper into crisis. Meanwhile, will any of the previous and existing 'leadership' pick up their responsibilities and be brought to book and imprisoned for their actions or lack of care and lack of concern for life?... Fly safe??? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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