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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14683 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Our current governing party, the Conservatives - think Republican - have been dominating political thought for the last 40 years. They are very strongly anti-regulation, because they think regulations are too much of a burden on good business, and heaped immense pressure to that effect on 'the other lot' when they were given a turn in the playpen between 1997-2010. Some of us think that regulations are there to stop bad businesses killing people, but that's an unfashionable view. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31086 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
If one cares to go back a good few posts (and probably back into v.1 of this thread) you will see that, at the time, the code did not require sprinklers, and that the inspectors were very hands-off (if not invisible).......... Precisely. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19463 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
If one cares to go back a good few posts (and probably back into v.1 of this thread) you will see that, at the time, the code did not require sprinklers, and that the inspectors were very hands-off (if not invisible).......... Unless you decide to build your own house. Like a mate of mine did, until he showed the inspector shots of the bridges he had built around the world, frequently in 3rd world countries after disasters. He was a WO 1 in the Royal Engineers. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
However, Arconic did not inform the body which issues product specification certificates in the UK.The Merry-go-round continues |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
2020 will certainly enter & stay in history books for a long time & for all the wrong reasons. 11 key things learnt this year |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19463 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Was reading something else and found this in a link in a side panel. https://www.ealingtimes.co.uk/news/19008935.cladding-scandal-london-assembly-report-reveals-extent/ The extent of London’s cladding crisis has been laid bare by a report from the London Assembly, with both the Mayor of London and the Government urged to act. I don't think this will happen, do you? The Government has been urged by the Housing, Communities and Local Government select committee to complete all remediation work nationally by the time of the fifth anniversary of the Grenfell Tower fire in June 2022. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Last year, the council signed off a £2m "extraordinary cost item" from its children's services budget to cover the potential fine and legal costs, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service.They can sign off on that, but not annual safety checks Well what can one expect when one sees the above example Simple answer - cut out the bureaucratic bloat. More bureaucratic bloat |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22624 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
At least one council is "doing its bit" to cut the bureaucrats - a friend who works for a council in south west London is loosing his job, at the same time at least one layer above him is going, along with the a few others in the department which is downsizing of the department from about 50 or 60 down to single figures, but needless to say the head of department's job is secure. Expect to see a load of "consultants" jobs being offered in that area in about 6 months time. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The UK's building safety crisis is escalating.Kettle & pot spring to mind The party agues a new body is needed "after years of delays and ineffective measures" from the government.1997-2010 Labour government 2010-date Conservative government. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19463 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Just announced. Extra £3.5bn to tackle unsafe cladding Extra £3.5bn promised by government to remove unsafe cladding from high-rise buildings over 18 metres "at no cost to residents" |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Extra £3.5bn promised by government to remove unsafe cladding from high-rise buildings over 18 metres "at no cost to residents"Yep, just cost the taxpayers for their aesthetically pleasing & energy efficient bungling. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21441 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Extra £3.5bn promised by government to remove unsafe cladding from high-rise buildings over 18 metres "at no cost to residents"Yep, just cost the taxpayers for their aesthetically pleasing & energy efficient bungling. Also has us all pay the greedy profiteers for their shoddy profits... How best to up-skill and de-corrupt our building industry?... Clocked used cars anyone?... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
When asked by counsel to the inquiry, Richard Millett QC, Ms French said she had 'not heard' of the fatal fire.Unbelievable |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
They have the money to waste on vanity projects & maritime companies with no ships as well as Olympic & brexit consultants but... LFB scapegoats yet again ...yet too expensive to provide training & better equipment to an emergency service. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21441 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
How shocking?... Grenfell cladding email: Keep poor test 'confidential' wrote: A technical manager at the maker of the Grenfell Tower cladding told colleagues poor fire test results on the product needed to be kept "very confidential". So... How do we keep such people 'honest' when profiteering with the lives of others? All in our deadly greedy world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22624 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
How often do you have to see something fail a test and re-test it before the point gets through - It has FAILED and no amount of testing will make it pass. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56403431 The "cassette" structure failed every time, and was categorised as "E" which (crudely) means unsuitable. The "rivet" structure passed, but was down graded from "B" to "C", in other words "more or less acceptable" to "marginal, not permitted". Then the (French) manufacturer lied, which compounds their felony...... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Thanks Rob. Bookmarked the page yesterday intending to request the thread be unlocked but forgot. What struck me was 2 statements from the UK Sales Manager. No 6 - Arconic's UK sales manager, Deborah French, was asked at the inquiry: why not attach a health warning to the product? No 8 - Questioned about it, Ms French claimed she had not been telling the truth when writing the email. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Government cocks up...yet again "For lower-rise buildings which have a lower risk, our generous capped finance scheme will ensure bills are a maximum of £50 per month."For how many years? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
He said: "I've been working with residents of this block for a long time to help them resolve fire safety issues. Their safety must come first."Under control |
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