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Here's a reminder for what goes around our 'fast' food: Food packaging is full of toxic chemicals – here's how it could affect your health wrote: If you care about what you eat, you should care about what it comes in... Eat well and healthy! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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And we continue to be slimed: The race to replace persistent {unhealthy} chemicals in our homes wrote: Take a look around your home, at the many products that make daily life more convenient ... synthetic chemicals, PFAS, is likely responsible for all of these functions. But those chemicals are now under the spotlight and, in some regions, are being [slowly, if at all,] phased out altogether... Cook and Eat well and healthy! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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There is another forever chemical everywhere, DHMO. I can say with 100% certainty that it is even in your bone marrow. Not only is it a forever chemical it also is the main factor in global warming. |
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Simply nope and nope. Water is readily transformed and consumed and converted and used. Hence why it is so widely used in life. And water vapour is a part of the mix that keeps us warm under our life giving atmosphere. But note, it is a part of a wider mix of other gases and particulates. It is those other parts of the warming mix that we are industriously adding to that are polluting us to an ever hotter hell. Live well! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Here is a scary new twist to slime us all and to poison more of our farmland: Brexit paves the way for gene-edited crops wrote: The UK government is to relax the regulation of gene-edited crops to enable commercial growing in England. Very dangerously dubious indeed... To my knowledge, there has only ever been one beneficial GM crop, and ofcourse that is highly grandstanded: That of "Golden Rice" where the Genetic Modification adds vitamins into the growth to help the malnourished in certain impoverished countries. Whereas, as far as I know, ALL the other commercial GM/GE is designed to profitably corner and lock in their market. There are some very sad examples of farmers in India and elsewhere being driven to suicide once seduced into the GM crops lie. The most famous GM crops example has to be for those crops modified to be resistant to poisonously high levels of glyphosate ("Roundup")... To poison the land and everything else including us humans. Nasty. What could possibly go wrong? All in our overly greedy world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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What can 1 say, but it was bound to be there. :-( Man-made horrors lurk at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, the deepest part of the ocean. I wonder what is/was in those sealed plastic buckets. |
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Have I been slimed? I bought a regular frozen box of brand name garlic pizzas (2 pizzas in a box) expecting the usual 9" pizzas being in it. Well the slightly smaller box I didn't notice, but the sound of the contents moving inside should've warned me that something was different. Anyhow last night I sliced/diced/chopped up enough cold meats and other stuff to put on both thinking I'll have 1 then and the other today, but as soon as I opened the box out slid 2x 7" pizzas. :-O I havn't bought them for a while so I can't really say if the price had changed (though they are on special ATM thankfully) and the box went into the wood heater without having to be bent this time, but who's to blame for this change? The manufacturer of those pizzas or the plague of those little air fryers these days? Needless to say I had both pizzas last night and bought another box today to finish off the rest of the extras that I sliced/diced/chopped. |
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Don't know about slime, but you have been inflated. <ed>Maybe they found a way to cancel the expansion of the universe? Dark energy? |
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Well I got a regular boxed pizza and guess what? They now fit in my Nutri-oven perfectly instead of being just a bit too big. |
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We are being forever slimed, in an insidious way: PFAS - UK's safe level for tap water {ridiculously} too high - scientists wrote: Scientists are concerned that the allowable levels of toxic PFAS - known as "forever chemicals" - in UK drinking water are too high... Note: PFAS chemicals are widely used in manufacturing and home products and are called "forever chemicals" because they never degrade and never break down to ever become harmless. Meanwhile, we all steadily become poisoned. Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Does a "forever chemical" violate the second law? |
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Does a "forever chemical" violate the second law? Nope. But it does last far far longer than human entropy will allow for us to see for ourselves... Hence 'forever' in human terms... The real problem is that PFAS chemicals speed up that human entropy for a much earlier grave for the humans and other long lived animals, especially so for such as whales... Fluorine molecules are not to be trifled with, or ignored... Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Quite a lazy bit of journalism - they say what PFAS are, but never what they are. The lazy journalistic say "this is what they are" when they mean "This is what they are used for". OK, so what are they? Perfluoroalkyls and Polyfluoroalkyls Essentially these medium chain length organic acids with most of the Hydrogen atoms on the backbone replaced with Fluorine atoms. They are stupendously stable, with no discernable or measurable body half-life. One understandable reference about them is https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/pfc/index.cfm. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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Quite a lazy bit of journalism - they say what PFAS are, but never what they are. The lazy journalistic say "this is what they are" when they mean "This is what they are used for". Like that report because it does not seem to be implicitly biased. More research is needed to fully understand all sources of exposure, and if and how they cause health problems. |
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... Perfluoroalkyls and Polyfluoroalkyls The highlighted "if and how" is with respect to "the sources [of PFAS]" for the multitude of different sources and conditions (and concentrations). That PFAS is deadly is beyond any possible dispute! Note that ongoing exposure to a scarily small amount of PFAS (nano-grams) will make you ill... You continue to accumulate the PFAS until you then die. For context, a single human cell weighs about a nanogram... And the humble mosquito weighs in a million times heavier at about one milligram. ... It doesn't take much of that material to fume off, or leach out, or scrape off... (Note: I long ago abandoned using ANY "non-stick" items for cooking...) Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Which one? "More than 4,700 PFAS exist" PFOA PFOS GenX PFNA PFHxS PFHxA PFDA PFBS ML1 wrote: That PFAS is deadly is beyond any possible dispute! "When looking for possible human-health effects of chemical compounds, it is important to understand that they are hard to study, especially with thousands of variations in PFAS chemicals. The research conducted to date reveals possible links between human exposures to PFAS and adverse health outcomes. potential adverse human health effects if they cause health problems" possible <> probable <> potential <> certain <> likely <> suspected <> suggested <> confirmed possible is 0.5 standard deviation to a physicist who demands 5.0+ standard deviations to announce discovery. Take a chill pill and let the science catch up. Di-hydrogen monoxide will kill you if you ingest too much of it too. No one is saying it is good for you. But if it was a bad as you are screaming, Covid wouldn't be of any concern whatsoever. |
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Indeed so, there's thousands of variations and all of them are artificially "man made"... And they never degrade... Similar to DDT... And those PFAS chemicals have found their way into our environment to remain accumulating until we stop adding any more. In the meantime, there is little that can be done when those chemicals have leaked/leached into the water supply. You yourself then become a biological filter for them. OK... So perhaps not yet as bad as the poisoned water fed to the good people of Flint, USA. However, that multitude of PFAS deadly chemicals is being used without any cares for any effects other than for the short term effects of cheap profits... What is there not to be concerned about? OK, so certainly don't not drink water in the short term. (Deliberate double negative there :-P ) However, in the longer term, we really do need to clean up the deadly pollutants we are poisoning ourselves with. Stay safe folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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And here's yet another one with poisonous 'side effects': UK farmers call for weedkiller ban over Parkinson’s fears wrote: Some British farmers are calling for a ban on the UK production of toxic weedkiller Paraquat, saying studies suggest it could be a factor in the onset of Parkinson's Disease. It comes as hundreds of US farm workers pursue a legal case against its manufacturer, alleging it knew the risk and failed to warn them. No surprise there for herbicide killing off a lot more than just 'weeds'... How much poisonous "residue" is passed on into our food also?... All in the unhealthy greedy Big Agribusiness game of slime... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Known Paraquat has been crap since the 90's. |
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How much more greedily profitable deadly unhealthy food is to be foisted upon the unwary?... Obesity and corporate greed... wrote: 26 May 2022 Doctors predict that by 2030, half of the world's population will be overweight or obese. An epidemic of obesity is causing a rapid rise in diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and cancer. It's becoming the biggest health challenge worldwide. Instead:
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