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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It is of vital importance to understand terms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-processed_food wrote: The term ultra-processing refers to the processing of industrial ingredients derived from foods, for example by extruding, moulding, re-shaping, hydrogenation, and hydrolysis. So ultra processing is pouring the gelatin for fruit jello into a mold such as a bowl. So ultra processing is reshaping by piping frosting through a nozzle onto a cake. So ultra processing is flattening dough for pizza. The definition is currently not used by the European Food Safety Authority or the Food and Drug Administration for regulatory purposes. Perhaps with little wonder. The Nordic nutrition guidelines do not advice against the intake of ultra-processed foods and a statement by the UK's Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition (SACN) considers the evidence currently available to be insufficient to make recommendations. Some work on the definitional seems to be urgently needed. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Your choice to believe and follow the food industry lobbied hype and confusion and befuddlement. Or you are equally welcome to be contrary or otherwise conveniently blind for the sake of the convenience of the highly Marketed 'convenience foods'. And then there is the real world outside the world of Marketing unhealthy greedy profits... I'm feeling a lot more healthy for my choice of enjoying more fruit and veg and nuts and extra virgin olive oil. I'm also enjoying shunning the supermarkets game of packaging and plastic and "environmentally modified packaging"... My waste bin is now rarely used. Fantastic! Your choice if you get to take an interest to find out... Enjoy good natural food that has NOT been "reconstituted" or "preserved" for a never ending shelf existence... Enjoy! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
A slightly more environmentally friendly form of slime?... 'This could be the holy grail to replace palm oil'... wrote: ... It is estimated that almost half of all food and cosmetic products on supermarket shelves contain palm oil. Or... Easier... Enjoy something better and completely natural as opposed to the manufactured foods held together by palm oil?... Eat healthy folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Always good to read the full article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-processed_food wrote: Ultra-processed foods, also referred to as ultra-processed food products (UPP), is a category of food and drink products in the NOVA food classification system, characterized by having undergone specified types of food processing Note also the acknowledgement of the "doubt" and "befuddlement" thrown in there from the food industry lobbying... Compare with the comments made in the podcast: Ultra-processed foods ... damage your brain! | Prof Felice Jacka Enjoy! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I see you have consumed gallons of ultraprocessed koolaid. If ultraprocessing is "specified type of processing - extrusion" that in no way changes the nutritional value or lack thereof of the item in question. (Round peg is now square peg.) It is fully correct to laugh at the definition of ultraprocessing. It is fully correct to state that the definition needs work. If that doesn't happen then it is fully correct to point fingers at those that spout it and laugh in their face and ignore it. Now as to other specified type of processing, many of those are problematic. Narrow the focus the the actual problems only! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Or go holistic rather than become obfuscated and lost in unconnected detail?... Or is the obfuscation the integral part of Marketing?... I agree that the NOVA categorization is overly crude. That is also acknowledged by such as Tim Spector (see Zoe Health and Nutrition) and others who instead give an easy "If more than 5 ingredients, or ingredients not readily available for your own domestic kitchen, then that indicates Ultra-Processed and so keep off!"... Myself personally, rather than trying to categorize "what has been done to food" (eg NOVA), instead I take more of an interest in what the food actually is, or for how it might be good or deficient or otherwise... That requires a lot of interest to follow up to find out what our food really is! Hence... I've gone simple. That is: Go for what is known to be naturally good and healthy! And with that, I'm building up quite a personal list of what is good, suspicious, or bad... Fortunately, I do have good healthy alternatives reasonably nearby so that I can avoid the treachery of the Supermarkets. Eat well and healthy! Enjoy!! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Fortunately, I do have good healthy alternatives reasonably nearby so that I can avoid the treachery of the Supermarkets. For a large percent of the population they don't even have access to a supermarket. They live in food deserts.* If lucky, they may have access to a snackermarket. *I realize this is not the case on your side of the pond, but is normal on this side in urban cores. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36765 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
If Donny and Elon arn't enough of a reason to quit Diet Coke then this maybe the 1. Pregnant women who consume diet soft drinks could experience higher rate of autism diagnoses in their sons, according to a new study. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Smells good... But half-hearted?... Smoking age should rise from 18, by one year every year - Rishi Sunak wrote: ... Under the plan, the age of sale would rise from 18 every year so a child aged 14 today would never be allowed to buy tobacco... ... Except that says nothing about the ever increasing smelly smog and plague that is "vaping" and the stubborn desperate ignorance of the vapers... Stay clear for your gulp of clean air? Stay healthy! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36765 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Has the solution to our PFAS problem been found? ‘Forever chemicals’ are eternal no more thanks to a pollution destroying device from Tacoma startup. It would be fair to expect the destroyer of toxic “forever chemicals” to be a massive, intimidating device. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Too much of a good thing is going greedily commercially bad: ‘We won’t serve it’: leading UK chefs join campaign to cast farmed salmon off menu wrote: Salmon has undergone a rapid transformation in recent decades... Greedy intensive farming spoils the dish and pollutes our world yet again... Eat healthy folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
By 'eck! I have been SLIMED!!... Me!!! Slimed I have been!! Phah! How did that happen...!...?.... Resisting the temptation for some colourful descriptions about deliberately misleading labels and the very misleading copycat packaging... So... In haste I ventured into... A Supermarket. Good to check up on the state of such a place and to be reminded that most of what they sell in there is completely unappealing and unhealthy... And amongst literally a handful of items to make my quick escape, I bought what I thought was a glass jar of Marmalade from a very old reputable big name brand. It's what my gran brought me up on. It even has "By Royal Appointment" emblazoned on there with the Queen's Crest. So, good enough for The Queen, so, must be good, yes?... The jar is shaped like a proper jam-jar should be shaped. The lid is emblazoned with the brand name just like on all other good jars, except that the standardized lid says nothing of the contents. Which then comes to the pretentious label on, and contents masquerading in, an overly posh jam-jar:
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ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Too much of a good thing is going greedily commercially bad: If not the restaurateurs, "a handful of urban-based activist chefs”, supposedly cannot make a positive impact, will a few pop stars do? ‘Can we save the wild salmon of Iceland?’: Björk releases ‘lost’ song to fight fish farming wrote: ... Iceland’s fish farming industry is “a couple of wild guys who want to make money quick and sacrifice nature”... Greedy intensive farming spoils the dish and pollutes our world yet again... Eat healthy folks! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22526 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
"Jelly marmalade" should be "real" marmalade with all the nice chunky bits removed, just leaving (some of) the flavour behind in sugar & pectin based jelly - so the list of ingredients in the jar is probably fairly accurate. Personally I find it to be a feeble, tasteless option not worthy of the marmalade moniker. These days the abuse of the alternative sugars to be far too widely abused, they do have their place, but in any jam/marmalade/conserve is an affront to jam makers the world over. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19398 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Make your own, plenty of recipes out there. From days of old, https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=rm9H31TpGKo |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Here is another significant name against the pandemic of greedy global slime: ... ‘The global food system is the leading cause of early death’ wrote: The Australian scientist on the links between ultra-processed foods and decreased brain health, and the effect of government policy and industry resistance... Eat healthy and live healthy! Enjoy!! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31006 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The number one slime ... https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/one-type-seasoning-experts-no-120022530.html |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Sadly, cynically, no surprises here, other than... Revealed: the industry figures behind ‘declaration of scientists’ backing meat eating wrote: Document used to target top EU officials over environmental and health policies but climate experts view it as propaganda How can such dirty destructive lobbying win? Big steaks corruption??... Stay healthy on our only one planet? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Enjoy your long healthy life! Enjoy some very straightforward tips: Scientists name eight measures that can slow ageing by up to six years wrote: Measures including healthy sleep and regular exercise may slow pace of body’s biological ageing... Eat and sleep and live well! Enjoy!! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21209 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
This was a huge improvement over the cooking over open fires from the days of old. However... There's been a long time cover up of the still unhealthy effects: Gas cookers pump out toxic particles linked to childhood asthma, report finds wrote: Scientists find average levels of nitrogen dioxide almost twice as high in homes cooking with gas as in those cooking without Go electric and go for better ventilation! (And cook rather than burn your food!!) Enjoy! Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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