The mantra is live free and let me contaminate as I so choose.

Only part. The rest of the mantra is "I am a greedy amoral selfish capitalist thief, I am going to make my profit by every means possible."

Whatever type of lockdowns chosen.

Public transportation in Bejing the other day.
About the same as the rogue country Sweden!

The mantra is live free and let me contaminate as I so choose.

Unfortunately that is not US centric as already seen here. :-(

More so now that the U.S., based on current figures, now accounts for a full third of the world's total cases.

Not bad for a country that only makes up 4.25 % of the world's population is it?

But yes there are some other countries that are worrisome.

The mantra is live free and let me contaminate as I so choose.

Unfortunately that is not US centric as already seen here. :-(

More so now that the U.S., based on current figures, now accounts for a full third of the world's total cases.
Not bad for a country that only makes up 4.25 % of the world's population is it?

Actually the figures we can see from countries reporting to WHO cannot be compared to other countries. The reporting are very much different. I stress on VERY difficult. Not even reports within countries like in Sweden works the same...
However Surgeon General Jan says "Lock down elderly care" meaning that it should be less than 12 different care takers taking care a day at nursery homes, is a way to mitigate the corona spreading.

The Gadsden crowd is screaming that their liberty is being restricted. Postings all over the net.

Question, two rights, which is more important.
1) Pursuit of happiness.
2) Life.

Unfortunately Covid-19 prevents both at the same time. So you must choose. Chose wisely.

Considering the Gadsden's position of self protection, if you are choosing life then by their own logic you protect life however you see fit and they love the Second. And yes, choosing life restricts happiness.

Confused? Some Gadsden disease vector is out there running around spreading potential death to have a happy time. Sounds exactly like the vector driving at 125mph on the street in front of the school at closing bell. He is happy. He is endangering lives. At what point does it cross from reckless to attempt homicide? But either one is criminal.

The Gadsden's think by running around they are the only one taking additional risk. No. No different that the idiot doing 125mph in front of the school. If he crashes he'll just get his Darwin award. He won't happen to take out 100 school kids lining up for buses. No different than that Gadsden disease vector that wants to run around a restaurant or watch an event. The Gadsden thinks only he will catch it. He never realizes he may already have it and he is infecting many, who will infect many more. He can't think how his actions impact others.

Covid-19 is a disease that is testing how selfish we are. The Gadsden's are proving to be very selfish. To the point they are unseemly.

FYI my friend was ushered yesterday into an isolation room at a hospital, fever 102f. A medical worker in a SCBA (Self Contained Breathing Apparatus) shoved swabs up his nose. Haven't had the next text yet. Don't know if that is good or bad. I'm just hoping his battery went dead. I'm sure he has the result by now. Three acquaintances are positive. One no longer is on this earth and another is an official statistic being a first responder. To put it mildly, the Gadsden's need to pull their head out of their facebook redit a$$ and look around at the real world. They could use some sweet air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j92RqFP4CM

(And no you don't want to know how I really feel.)

Very sorry to hear that. Here's hoping for you all to pull through ok.


And yes there has to be a balance of 'Liberty' that is considerate off all.

Here's hoping the pandemic is a positive 'wake-up' call to bring more people together for the better.


Good luck and good luck for your friends.

Stay safe,
Martin

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Florida, invites the reaper to the beaches.

Hmm. I don't I see any on the beach who doesn't keep social distancing.
Being outdoors is much better to mitigate virus spreading then staying indoors close to one other.

Friend reports okay, negative, phone misplaced then had to be sanitized and charged. Been discharged. Flu?

Oh dear...

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo claims there is evidence that the coronavirus outbreak originated in a laboratory in Wuhan City, China. However, he does not present any evidence for the task, which he presents in an interview with the broadcaster ABC's "This Week".
"There is significant evidence that this is coming from this laboratory in Wuhan," Pompeo says, referring to the corona virus.
He says at the same time that the US intelligence services have not had the matter confirmed.
Pompeo claims in the interview that viruses were also previously spread from labs in China.
- Remember that China has a history of infecting the world, and they have a history of operating substandard laboratories. It is not the first time the world has been exposed to viruses as a result of failures in a Chinese lab.

China has a history of infecting the world?
Yes. That's because there are animals living there that are developing corona viruses like bats. But there are some other countries like India and countries in Africa.
But holding the China people responsible for this pandemic is disgusting.
The dimwits Pompeo and Trump simply doesn't understand anything.
And the US intelligence can't be trusted of course by Trump and Pompeo...
They just now use this pandemic for political reasons looking for scapegoats so that Trump will win next election.

Yep the current U.S. government will say and do anything to deflect from the mess that it has made at home over this virus and idiots will believe their B.S. and total lack of any supporting evidence. :-(

...holding the China people responsible for this pandemic is disgusting.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo stated the Chinese Government and their labs, with no evidence given, may be responsible. Not the Chinese People.
The Chinese People and other innocents worldwide are possibly the victim's of the Chinese Government.
We will see in the future what responsibility, if any, the Chinese Government has regarding the worldwide spread of COVID-19.

No He didn't.
Start at 5:15 Mike Pompeo stated the China may be responsible https://youtu.be/fRea4yIE7_8?t=315

In diplomacy you have to be VERY careful with words and sentences:)

Possibly a misunderstanding of another language.
As with saying France's actions are responsible for... Only means the French Government and Authority's. NOT the French people.
The responsibility of China means the Chinese Government. NOT the people.

So is the U.S. Government responsible for Trump stating that it came from a Chinese lab when even U.S. Intelligence & medical experts state that it is not man made?
Trump or should that be chump, really is believing in MAGA.
It really is laughable that American citizens have allowed themselves to be ruled by such an idiot.
What is even more laughable is the base core of support wants him back for another 4 years.

Infectious, non man made diseases, must be carefully handled. It doesn't matter what Government's or Private Laboratory's are involved.
Where COVID-19 started and if specific laboratory's are responsible for any mishandling, is a very important question.

Not yet is isn't. The question for now is how fast can it be contained &/if neutralised, Everything else is secondary to that question.
Edited for missing word.

Both the continuing investigation regarding initial responsibility/actions/statements and coping with COVID-19, can be done at the same time.

Agreed, but where does one start?
When U.S. Intelligence & medical experts state that is did not come from a lab & that it is looking more & more like a virus that jumped from animal to human & evolved, why is Trump & you to a degree, attempting to hold China's government responsible?

But your "possibility" (and that of your president) has been disproved by several sources already with proven facts, so where are your proven facts supporting your possibility?

Question: Where did COVID-19 start

From GOD.

what lead to its worldwide spread?

King Donald ignoring his January briefings or his insatiable greed for profit, a deadly sin.

Question: Where did COVID-19 start

From GOD.

what lead to its worldwide spread?

King Donald ignoring his January briefings or his insatiable greed for profit, a deadly sin.

Including the Leadership of the following Country's?

Latest number of deaths per one million population...

Belgium: 686.7
Spain: 537.2
Italy: 475.1
United Kingdom: 423.1
France: 369.6
Netherlands: 289.4
Ireland: 265.0
Sweden : 262.1
Switzerland: 206.9
United States: 206.2

Data Sources: WHO, CDC, ECDC, NHC, DXY, JHU, RCP | Population: World Bank

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

You should know by now that the reporting of deaths per one million vary VERY much between countries and CANNOT be compared like that.
Heck. The doctors cannot even give a death certificate giving if a person died of COVID-19 or of some underlying cause...