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Message 2047273 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 16:34:44 UTC - in response to Message 2047262.  

So now we understand what's behind the virus..........PPE and coating sales...........
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the mindset of the Smithfield's CEO & board.

Good 'conspiracy theory'.

Easier cynicism that follows Occam's Razor is that, simply and more likely, a better position for profiteering is being exploited.


Meanwhile, all the same, people be damned?

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Message 2047275 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 16:43:35 UTC - in response to Message 2047273.  

So now we understand what's behind the virus..........PPE and coating sales...........
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the mindset of the Smithfield's CEO & board.

Good 'conspiracy theory'.
Easier cynicism that follows Occam's Razor is that, simply and more likely, a better position for profiteering is being exploited.
Really? Had you read the report regarding Smithfield's, you would've seen that they were not spending on PPE, also giving off the "impression" that their staff & safety takes priority as well as deep cleaning their site on a regular basis.
Facts which have been disputed by many employees. That fact elicited my post - profits 1st so JUST how is that a "conspiracy theory" ?
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Message 2047277 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 16:58:11 UTC - in response to Message 2047275.  
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I was assuming a conspiracy that supposedly somehow they had 'engineered' the Corona virus for profit...

Sorry, been reading too much Trump!


So, back to reality, same slave working dangers as for the Amazon warehouse workers...


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Message 2047285 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 17:30:31 UTC
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U.S. deaths soared in early weeks of pandemic, far exceeding number attributed to covid-19
In the early weeks of the coronavirus epidemic, the United States recorded an estimated 15,400 excess deaths, nearly two times as many as were publicly attributed to covid-19 at the time, according to an analysis of federal data conducted for The Washington Post by a research team led by the Yale School of Public Health.

The excess deaths — the number beyond what would normally be expected for that time of year — occurred during March and through April 4, a time when 8,128 coronavirus deaths were reported.

The excess deaths are not necessarily attributable directly to covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. They could include people who died because of the epidemic but not from the disease, such as those who were afraid to seek medical treatment for unrelated illnesses, as well as some number of deaths that are part of the ordinary variation in the death rate. The count is also affected by increases or decreases in other categories of deaths, such as suicides, homicides and motor vehicle accidents.

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In Washington, the first state to battle a large-scale outbreak, 310 people were originally reported to have died of the virus as of April 4. The state has since published data showing that, in fact, nearly 600 people had died of covid-19 as of that date. Because of the state’s relatively robust testing and contact-tracing infrastructure, experts say, the covid-19 death count there is likely more accurate than in other states.

The overall number of deaths in Washington during those weeks climbed by only about 100 over the number that would normally be expected, according to the Yale analysis. That could be in part because fewer people have been dying on the roads. Statewide, there have been 34 fatal collisions in March and April to date — about half the usual number for this time of year, according to data from 2018 and 2019.

There are signs that traffic fatalities are declining more broadly. Data collected by ESO, a company that provides software for about a third of EMS services nationwide, show a steep decline in calls for motor vehicle accidents as stay-at-home orders have taken hold.

Crime patterns are changing in some places, too. Miami did not report a single homicide for seven weeks and six days, from mid-February to mid-April, police said. The last time the city was free of homicides for that long was in 1957.


edit] Worldwide total for confirmed cases goes past the 3,000,000 milestone.
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Message 2047287 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 17:39:26 UTC - in response to Message 2047275.  

So now we understand what's behind the virus..........PPE and coating sales...........
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the mindset of the Smithfield's CEO & board.

Good 'conspiracy theory'.
Easier cynicism that follows Occam's Razor is that, simply and more likely, a better position for profiteering is being exploited.
Really? Had you read the report regarding Smithfield's, you would've seen that they were not spending on PPE, also giving off the "impression" that their staff & safety takes priority as well as deep cleaning their site on a regular basis.
Facts which have been disputed by many employees. That fact elicited my post - profits 1st so JUST how is that a "conspiracy theory" ?
How can you spend on PPE if there is no supplier with PPE in stock to ship?
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Message 2047288 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 17:54:17 UTC - in response to Message 2047287.  

How can you spend on PPE if there is no supplier with PPE in stock to ship?
Do you know for certain that no PPE was available when the 1st case hit Smithfield's?
2nd, having no PPE does not justify their stance of minimum distance.
Profit & fiduciary duty is all good & well but not at the expense of killing your workforce.
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Message 2047294 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 18:54:59 UTC
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Message 2047298 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 19:09:19 UTC - in response to Message 2047294.  
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Well. I can see many problems with that idea. Who is the Central Scrutinizer by the way?
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Message 2047299 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 19:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 2047298.  

Well. I can see many problems with that idea. Who is the Central Scrutinizer by the way?
Well, they'll have us believe it'll be NHSX but it'll more likely be GCHQ.
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Message 2047303 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 19:20:28 UTC

I think I am going to go the opposite direction, as I happen to have a Class 1 bluetooth device that can have the power output turned up to 100mW at the touch of a switch. the range is about 100m. That should cause some confusion.
Most devices are Class 2 max where the power output is only 2.5mW, with a range of about 10m.
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Message 2047304 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 19:29:33 UTC - in response to Message 2047299.  

Well. I can see many problems with that idea. Who is the Central Scrutinizer by the way?
Well, they'll have us believe it'll be NHSX but it'll more likely be GCHQ.
Oh. GCHQ works closely with Swedish FRA and the US NSA. In the best interest of all of course:)
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Message 2047320 - Posted: 27 Apr 2020, 22:02:20 UTC
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New Zealand has succeeded in stopping the general spread of the corona virus, according to Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern.
- We have won the battle, she says according to the BBC.
The country introduced some of the most far-reaching restrictions in the world early in the pandemic, when only a few dozen cases of infection were known.
To date, 19 deaths have been recorded in the virus, and fewer than 1,500 probable or confirmed infections. According to chief health officer Ashley Bloomfield, the low number of new cases indicates that the virus has been eliminated.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52436658
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Message 2047361 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 4:39:02 UTC

In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead
As scientists at the Jenner Institute prepare for mass clinical trials, new tests show their vaccine to be effective in monkeys.

In the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford University.

Most other teams have had to start with small clinical trials of a few hundred participants to demonstrate safety. But scientists at the university’s Jenner Institute had a head start on a vaccine, having proved in previous trials that similar inoculations — including one last year against an earlier coronavirus — were harmless to humans.

That has enabled them to leap ahead and schedule tests of their new coronavirus vaccine involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month, hoping to show not only that it is safe, but also that it works.

The Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September — at least several months ahead of any of the other announced efforts — if it proves to be effective.

Now, they have received promising news suggesting that it might.

Scientists at the National Institutes of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratory in Montana last month inoculated six rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of the Oxford vaccine. The animals were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus that is causing the pandemic — exposure that had consistently sickened other monkeys in the lab. But more than 28 days later all six were healthy, said Vincent Munster, the researcher who conducted the test.
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Message 2047386 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 12:29:16 UTC

Well today (here) I've seen the world wide count pass 3 million cases and the U.S. pass 1 million while Russia (8th spot) jumped China (10th place) this morning and Iran (9th spot) tonight. Meanwhile the U.K. (6th spot) is now tailgating Germany (5th spot), India passed Switzerland for 15th spot and Peru is poised to take 16th place. Saudi Arabia is ready to knock Sweden down to 22nd place while Mexico is ready to displace Israel from 23rd spot.

South Korea is down to 35th spot now and Bangladesh looks to be the first of the next wave to knock Australia down from 43rd place.

It also looks like our border with New Zealand will be the first to be opened when border restrictions start to be relaxed.
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Message 2047394 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 13:14:03 UTC - in response to Message 2047386.  

Saudi Arabia is ready to knock Sweden down to 22nd place
Yes. That's the race for the total "reported" cases. However if you look at the Death per Millon it doesn't look good for Sweden now at 11th place while the hotspot US is now in 16'th place:( San Marino is still in a big lead with 1,208 DpM followed by Belgium far behind with 633 DpM.
Sweden 233 DpM and the US 172 DpM.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Message 2047407 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 14:12:21 UTC

Oh. This is perhaps to take the Corona virus debacle too far:)
https://www.svt.se/kultur/tegnell-hajpen-ett-tecken-pa-svenskars-tillit-till-makten
Swedes' confidence in the state and the Public Health Authority is higher than in many other countries, and during the corona pandemic it has increased even more. One sign of this is the almost icon-like status that Sweden's state epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, has been granted.
He is joked about on social media and songs are even written. Now he has also been tattooed when Gustav Agerblad in Stockholm tattooed Anders Tegnell on his arm.
- I think he is very cozy. He stands for calm and harmony and makes his recommendations. It feels like he has been working around the clock since this crisis escalated, yet he instills a nice calm, says Gustav Agerblad.
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Message 2047444 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 19:57:53 UTC

When you're fighting a pandemic, almost nothing matters more than speed. A little-known band of doctors and hi-tech wizards say they were able to find the vital speed needed to attack the coronavirus: the computing power of artificial intelligence. They call their new weapon "outbreak science." It could change the way we fight another contagion. Already it has led to calls for an overhaul of how the federal government does things. But first, we'll take you inside BlueDot, a small Canadian company with an algorithm that scours the world for outbreaks of infectious disease. It's a digital early warning system, and it was among the first to raise alarms about this lethal outbreak.

It was New Year's Eve when BlueDot's computer spat out an alert: a Chinese business paper had just reported 27 cases of a mysterious flu-like disease in Wuhan, a city of 11 million.

The signs were ominous. Seven people were already in hospitals. Almost all the cases came from the city's sprawling market, where live animals are packed in cages and slaughtered on-site. Medical detectives are now investigating if this is where the epidemic began, when the virus made the leap from animals to us.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-computer-algorithm-artificial-intelligence/
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Message 2047473 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 23:18:04 UTC

I see that Italy is now the 3rd country in the 200,000 club. :-(
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Message 2047478 - Posted: 28 Apr 2020, 23:54:53 UTC
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IHME data updated.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
New projected death total for USA up significantly from a few days ago.
Places are being opened; it is showing up in the data.

Obviously for some, profit is more important than life.
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Message 2047480 - Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 0:03:05 UTC - in response to Message 2047473.  
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I see that Italy is now the 3rd country in the 200,000 club. :-(

Yes. But the US are in the lead with when counting total recoveries. US with 139,162 and Italy in the 6'th place with 66,624. Austrialia is behind in the 23'th place. Sweden in 51'th place...
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