I wonder how a poll would turn out on how v2.0 sat on his hands for a whole 2 months before reacting. ;-)

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/488547-california-projects-56-percent-of-the-population-will-be-infected-over-8-week
CALIFORNIA: 56% WILL BE INFECTED
GOV. ORDERS 'STAY HOME'

So what. Lets compare Italy to California. Italy have become a hot spot in Europe with its 60 M population. California has 40 M. After some weeks Italy has now about 40 thousand confirmed cases. The US has now as a total a couple of weeks later 14 thousand cases. In Italy it now seems that every day the new cases are becoming less, in the US it's growing. But of course the number of people that have been infected is by far much more, most likely with magnitudes. Being infected doesn't always mean that you get sick. Most people that get infected doesn't even know they are infected.

Unfortunately, that statement regarding new cases in Italy is not true at all.

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I wonder how a poll would turn out on how v2.0 sat on his hands for a whole 2 months before reacting. ;-)

Unfortunately probably not much different. I suspect many of having a attention span similar to Trump and probably cannot remember what he tweeted yesterday.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/488547-california-projects-56-percent-of-the-population-will-be-infected-over-8-week
CALIFORNIA: 56% WILL BE INFECTED
GOV. ORDERS 'STAY HOME'

So what. Lets compare Italy to California. Italy have become a hot spot in Europe with its 60 M population. California has 40 M. After some weeks Italy has now about 40 thousand confirmed cases. The US has now as a total a couple of weeks later 14 thousand cases. In Italy it now seems that every day the new cases are becoming less, in the US it's growing. But of course the number of people that have been infected is by far much more, most likely with magnitudes. Being infected doesn't always mean that you get sick. Most people that get infected doesn't even know they are infected.

Unfortunately, that statement regarding new cases in Italy is not true at all.

Oh. Yes. But the reporting of new cases doesn't happen every day. So what's look good one day could be very bad the next. Like when I check Italy today that reported a whopping 6000 new cases yesterday but today report 0 new cases.

I wonder how a poll would turn out on how v2.0 sat on his hands for a whole 2 months before reacting. ;-)

Unfortunately probably not much different. I suspect many of having a attention span similar to Trump and probably cannot remember what he tweeted yesterday.

Trump will certainly not like to remember these statements earlier. Statements that many believed in.
https://youtu.be/17ne6-ypj_4

Trump will certainly not like to remember these statements earlier. Statements that many believed in.
https://youtu.be/17ne6-ypj_4

He won't remember them. But he should be reminded of them, every time he speaks in public.

Pandemic #'s late 3/20/20

Alabama: 106
Alaska: 9
Arizona: 63
Arkansas: 100
California: 1,077 (including 23 deaths)
Colorado: 363 (including four deaths)
Connecticut: 194 (including four deaths)
Delaware: 39
District of Columbia: 71 (including one death)
Florida: 514 (including nine deaths)
Georgia: 420 (including 13 deaths)
Guam: 12
Hawaii: 37
Idaho: 23
Illinois: 585 (including five deaths)
Indiana: 79 (including three deaths)
Iowa: 45
Kansas: 44 (including one death)
Kentucky: 63 (including two deaths)
Louisiana: 537 (including 14 deaths)
Maine: 56
Maryland: 149 (including one death)
Massachusetts: 413 (including one death)
Michigan: 549 (including three deaths)
Minnesota: 115
Mississippi: 80 (including one death)
Missouri: 47 (including two deaths)
Montana: 15
Nebraska: 32
Nevada: 109 (including two deaths)
New Hampshire: 55
New Jersey: 890 (including 11 deaths)
New Mexico: 43
New York: 7,845 (including 39 deaths)
North Carolina: 137
North Dakota: 26
Ohio: 169 (including one death)
Oklahoma: 49 (including one death)
Oregon: 88 (including three deaths)
Pennsylvania: 268 (including one death)
Puerto Rico: 8
Rhode Island: 44
South Carolina: 125 (including one death)
South Dakota: 14 (including one death)
Tennessee: 228
Texas: 202 (including five deaths)
US Virgin Islands: 3
Utah: 78
Vermont: 29 (including two deaths)
Virginia: 114 (including two deaths)
Washington: 1,513 (including 82 deaths)
West Virginia: 8
Wisconsin: 206 (including three deaths)

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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/488547-california-projects-56-percent-of-the-population-will-be-infected-over-8-week
CALIFORNIA: 56% WILL BE INFECTED
GOV. ORDERS 'STAY HOME'

So what. Lets compare Italy to California. Italy have become a hot spot in Europe with its 60 M population. California has 40 M. After some weeks Italy has now about 40 thousand confirmed cases. The US has now as a total a couple of weeks later 14 thousand cases. In Italy it now seems that every day the new cases are becoming less, in the US it's growing. But of course the number of people that have been infected is by far much more, most likely with magnitudes. Being infected doesn't always mean that you get sick. Most people that get infected doesn't even know they are infected.

Unfortunately, that statement regarding new cases in Italy is not true at all.

Oh. Yes. But the reporting of new cases doesn't happen every day. So what's look good one day could be very bad the next. Like when I check Italy today that reported a whopping 6000 new cases yesterday but today report 0 new cases.

Also incorrect, unfortunately. Most, if not all, countries are publishing daily figures, including Italy. Some countries publish several updates each day. Italy's figures are usually amongst the last to be published, and they only publish once a day, which is why it's currently 0 for today. Look at the graph of daily new cases in Italy. There is a figure for every day since the first reported cases on 22 February. There were admittedly a few days recently (15 to 17 March) when that figure stabilised and even decreased, but the overall trend is one of an exponential increase.

That said, I completely agree with the point you have made about the USA's trajectory. The USA is in trouble, and the death rate in the USA is showing signs of a rapid, exponential increase.

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Also incorrect, unfortunately. Most, if not all, countries are publishing daily figures, including Italy. Some countries publish several updates each day. Italy's figures are usually amongst the last to be published, and they only publish once a day, which is why it's currently 0 for today. Look at the graph of daily new cases in Italy. There is a figure for every day since the first reported cases on 22 February. There were admittedly a few days recently (15 to 17 March) when that figure stabilised and even decreased, but the overall trend is one of an exponential increase.

No. That's wrong. One problem is that one date last for 48 hours on earth. Then WHO has changed their routines the other day when to publish the new cases. Now the day is reset after midnight GMT+0. It was arbitrary before. The WHO also only publish new cases once per day.
Whatever. What we see is now a rapid, exponential increase of cases both in Europe and the US.
The only reliably numbers are the numbers of new deaths, and for "today" in the top it's Spain with 233, Iran 123, and the Netherlands and Belgium with 30. Italy has still not reported new deaths at this moment, but it was 627 yesterday...

With all the isolation & lockdowns in place, there is one stat that I'm certain will increase - Divorce rate.

And birth rate:-)

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Kevin

And birth rate:-)

+1

Would be interesting if we were to know how much testing is done by each state.
It looks like some of New York's high numbers of cases detected is because the State Governor has organised wide scale testing.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo: New York just boosted its total number of coronavirus tests by almost 50% in the past day. Here's how the state is doing compared to other countries.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo held a press conference on Friday addressing the coronavirus outbreak in New York state and elsewhere.

Cuomo announced 7,845 confirmed cases in the state, according to The New York Times, and that 10,000 new coronavirus tests were processed overnight — bringing the state's total to 32,427 tests. The increase suggests the state has in the past 24 hours completed about one-third of all of its tests for COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, since the emergence of the pandemic nearly 12 weeks ago.

According to The Times, Cuomo also said the state was now testing more people per capita than China or South Korea. Though up-to-date testing figures from China are hard to come by, South Korea tested an additional 9,640 people between March 19 and 20, according to the Korean Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

That South Korea figure is pretty close to the 10,000 tests done in New York overnight, and since South Korea has about 2 1/2 times the population of New York, Cuomo's claim that the state is testing at a higher per-capita rate than that country is reasonably accurate.

However, New York, along with the US as a whole, has a lot of catching up to do.

Are the numbers low in other states, because they are not testing.
If you don't look you will never find.

Are the numbers low in other states, because they are not testing.
If you don't look you will never find.

Of course. The more you test, the more you get results. A problem though is that one cannot allocate that much resources to do all the testings. There are also many other more sick people in need of medical care. When will the health care have to face the decision to whom that will be tested? Actually already a discussion here in Sweden that's not have been clarified.

And birth rate:-)

Yep. :-)

Nine months after the blackout winter there was a baby boom. The blackout winter of 1973 to 1974 showed how well the British could cope in a crisis. The lights had indeed gone out but the people survived it.

Fun times. :-)

The test is free, but to be eligible, a person must already be showing symptoms of COVID-19 and fall into one of three categories: healthcare workers and first responders; seniors aged 65 or older; and symptomatic individuals who recently traveled abroad. A photo ID is required.

Yes we got free test's for seniors (well 20 bucks it is) here in Sweden as well when you are 65 or older. And the symptoms that are eligible is high fever and dry cough. Others stay home.

I been trying all along to get people to realise the increase in cases is exponential. In about five or six days the number of new cases will be double what they are today.

The number of people who have tested positive for coronavirus worldwide passed 300,000, with more than 13,000 deaths

Percentage slowly increasing, that's 4.35%.

A couple of things to consider
Not everyone who has Covid-19 is actually being diagnosed,
Some countries have a much less inaccurate diagnosis rate than others. In either case this leads to a higher "perceived percentage" than the actual percentage.

A slight change of tack - what about people who tested a few weeks ago and given the "clear of infection". but have subsequently been exposed and have become infected - it appears to me that nobody has thought about this group. Being given a "no infection" result for an infection like Covid-19 means that one was clear at the time of the test, it does not mean that one is immune to either becoming infected or a non-symptomatic carrier - in an ideal world you would be able to test everyone in a given environment at least once a week, and probably daily.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Tesco has now removed all of its multi-buy deals and promotions in a bid to put an end to shoppers buying up all essential items.
The retail giant has also hiked prices on 600 products from Diet Coke to tampons. It claimed that the increase in prices were simply in response to the promotions ending.

Now why do I find that hard to believe. :-)

A couple of things to consider
Not everyone who has Covid-19 is actually being diagnosed,
Some countries have a much less inaccurate diagnosis rate than others. In either case this leads to a higher "perceived percentage" than the actual percentage

That may be so, but that will not distract from the total global number of infections & the death rate as it currently is.
Another one stating only 1%.

Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England Dr Jenny Harries also warns against a "direct comparison" between virus case rates in Italy and the UK, saying this should be done with "caution".
She says that the case fatality rate is around 10% in Italy, as opposed to 4% in the UK - but it depends how cases are counted.
She says there are differences in testing, with more serious cases being tested in the UK, for example.
She adds that they feel the eventual mortality rate for the virus will be around 1%.

A real % cannot be provided until the pandemic is over, everything else is just assumptions.