A common mistaken belief.
Diplomatic Immunity also apply's to Declared Intelligence Official's in Foreign Embassy's.
An intelligence officer assigned to an embassy and given formal diplomatic status enjoys the full benefits of diplomatic immunity, according to traditional diplomatic practice.

Your mistaken belief is that, yes you are correct with regards to embassies but an R.A.F base leased to the U.S. military is not an embassy.

The 2017 Office of the Inspector General report recorded that the base provided command, control, communications, and computer support to Department of Defense and civilian agencies across Europe, and was staffed by about 265 U.S. military personnel, 140 Department of Defense civilians, and 200 UK Ministry of Defence employees. It provided about 25% of all European to United States military communications.

Further, Diplomatic Immunity is controlled by both international Treaty (the Vienna Convention) and domestic law (in the UK, the Diplomatic Privileges Act 1964). It is something which is granted in advance (by notification to the host country of the names of the holders of eligible posts).

The question of 'claiming' diplomatic immunity doesn't arise. The driver in this case might have asserted to the local police, "my name is on the list" - and they could (should!) have checked out her statement.

For a legal analysis, try The Law Society Gazette. (The Law Society is the regulatory body for legal practitioners in the UK).

Yes, & if she really had diplomatic immunity, there would have been no need to flee. By doing so just gives more credence to this:

Radd Seiger, a lawyer for the Dunn family, said Northamptonshire police had confirmed that the Interpol notice had been issued, adding that this meant in the Foreign Office’s view she did not have diplomatic immunity at the time of her initial arrest. “Red notices would not be served on valid diplomats,” he said.

Used to travel that area several times a week on what we called the "Abingdon" run. Had many a near miss by personnel from Croughton driving on the wrong side of the road.

Yes, & if she really had diplomatic immunity, there would have been no need to flee. By doing so just gives more credence to this:

Radd Seiger, a lawyer for the Dunn family, said Northamptonshire police had confirmed that the Interpol notice had been issued, adding that this meant in the Foreign Office’s view she did not have diplomatic immunity at the time of her initial arrest. “Red notices would not be served on valid diplomats,” he said.

Used to travel that area several times a week on what we called the "Abingdon" run. Had many a near miss by personnel from Croughton driving on the wrong side of the road.

Buried in the article, as she left immunity is not a question, she can only have it while she and hubby are in country while he has it, so a red notice is on the table.
However we have a red, but has a formal request for extradition been sent to the USA? If not, this may all be for show so people can say see, I'm working on it, when the top brass has already decided to not pursue the matter.

Well, that's 4 feeble excuses from America.
Are there more we have yet to hear?

National Security
Economic Interests
Diplomatic Immunity
Fear for Life

She did not have Diplomatic Immunity at the time of the incident, SO just who is playing games?

Is it a case of Americans can do no wrong?

Is the "feeble" excuse used by all Country's to protect, for various reasons, their people covered by Diplomatic Immunity.

Agree up to the end of 2015.
Since then they have become "feeble" excuses by an ignorant fool who wants to keep his wallet full.

Please reference the UK's and/or the USA's Government opinion of why "at the time of the incident" she didn't have Diplomatic Immunity. Which was stated a short time ago.

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave yesterday.

In order to qualify for Diplomatic Immunity under the Diplomatic Privileges Act 1964, the USA would have had to notify the Court of St. James (in advance) that she had been appointed to a post which qualified for diplomatic privileges under the Vienna Convention.

No evidence has surfaced to indicate that such notice had been given, or that she was the holder of a qualifying office.

Further to that, I'll add this: There is a huge difference between an Intelligence Official & an Intelligence Officer!

Further to that, I'll add this: There is a huge difference between an Intelligence Official & an Intelligence Officer!

Then you disagree with the Prime Minister of the UK and the UK's Foreign Office opinion that she had Diplomatic Immunity.

What has that got to do with my statement quoted?

Folks,

To clear this one usefully:

Please only list and compare the facts?


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Compounding the grief and dismay of Dunn’s family was the claim, apparently asserted by the UK Foreign Office, that Ms Sacoolas had diplomatic immunity and could not be prosecuted over the collision anyway. This led to demands from many quarters, including by Prime Minister Boris Johnson, that the US waive her immunity and return her to the UK for prosecution.

Interesting.

You have presented that as a quotation. Please indicate (and link if possible) the source document you are quoting from.

As a keen follower of UK news, I have not heard that stated in those terms. I would be interested to read the exact context and attribution of that statement. "Apparently asserted" sounds a bit wishy-washy from here.

OK, my search engine appears to be faster slower than yours.

"The Interpreter", published by the LOWY INSTITUTE (their caps), 15 Oct 2019.

Diplomatic immunity: Time to change the rules

Now off to research who and where the Lowy Institute comprises. I don't recognise the names as experts on British diplomatic law.

An independent, nonpartisan think tank based in Sydney. It publishes daily commentary and analysis on international events, and is edited by Daniel Flitton (Managing Editor) and Sam Hendricks (Deputy Editor), along with founding editor Sam Roggeveen (Director of Digital).

We seek a global audience, but our perspective is Australian.

I think I need to second-source that assertion.

OK, try this. The Guardian (published in the UK), 22 April 2020

Harry Dunn death: diplomatic immunity for Anne Sacoolas 'illogical'

Read it carefully: it quotes statements from earlier dates, only to question them. It's too long to quote in full, but the status is clear:

In the fullest high-level explanation of the events subsequent to Dunn’s death, McDonald told the select committee on Tuesday: “In the case of Harry Dunn, the controversy was over an agreement made at the end of the last century over continuing immunities for US diplomats posted at the Croughton annex.

'McDonald' is Sir Simon McDonald, the permanent under-secretary and head of the diplomatic service: a 'select committee' is a formal committee of the House of Commons. That is about as "on the record" a statement as you get in the UK.

Hopefully, you will get better results.

See edit to my last post.

This ITV report (12 May 2020) seems pretty precise, too.

ITV News sees confidential documents used to assess if Anne Sacoolas had diplomatic immunity following Harry Dunn death

Edit - linked to the wrong tab in my browser. Sorry about that. It's getting late and I'm obviously tired - I'll head off to bed. G'night all.

They make clear that when the arrangements were drawn up both governments agreed that US staff covered by diplomatic immunity at RAF Croughton would face an automatic waiver from that immunity if they were to commit a criminal act outside their duties.

Settles the argument over her having diplomatic immunity.

As I stated earlier, has a formal request for extradition been lodged with the USA? Until it is, you are all speculating what the answer will be from the USA. You are also arguing your own UK internal law which may not survive a judge looking at the facts. Then it may well have to go to ICJ to resolve if the UK and USA disagree. As I said, I suspect the brass has decided it isn't worth the effort so they will do a "make people feel good" amount of effort.

As I stated earlier, has a formal request for extradition been lodged with the USA? ...

I believe that has already been done.

The USA refused claiming that to accept would set an impossible precident...


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As I stated earlier, has a formal request for extradition been lodged with the USA? ...

I believe that has already been done.

The USA refused claiming that to accept would set an impossible precident...

In which case it appears as if the USA believes she had immunity at the time. So head to the ICJ or Vienna and get a ruling one way or the other. Not that the USA ever listens to the ICJ.