In the Linux world, there is no need to 'specially' load up 'drivers'. Or in Windows-speak, install "DLLs".
The Linux kernel already includes all needed drivers or has automatic "load modules" already included.

Avoiding the point again I see. The Linux kernel includes ALL needed or automatic "load modules? You sure about that? I DO NOT have any Frankenstein hardware just bog standard components, even the new build is not "bleeding edge", yet Linux 64 will not install.
So as I stated, it will have to sit there until I install Windows 64 bit. :-)

Windows installs generic drivers THAT works OOB. Why doesn't Linux?
Again as I stated, until that happens MS won't suffer much damage.

Ok... I'll bite for this example:

So, I believe we're talking about a printer or some "Multi-Function Device" Printer-Scanner-Copier?

... I DO NOT have any Frankenstein hardware just bog standard components...

What make/model so that a compatibility search can be made?

Or are there any specific errors?


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Ok... I'll bite for this example:
So, I believe we're talking about a printer or some "Multi-Function Device" Printer-Scanner-Copier?

No, we're talking about Linux. My orginal post stated that it was an interesting report & it was. I found it interesting in the fact that manufacturers are looking at Linux in a serious manner rather than as a niche O/S. The rest of that post was a comment by someone else, which can be seen in the comments section of that report. The last sentence of that comment says it all.

As for you biting, really? Didn't you see this:

Finished a new build yesterday, tried installing Linux 64 - same issue as previously experienced. It is going to sit there until delivery is made of another copy of Windows 64 bit is received. TBH, I wanted Linux Mint 64 on it, but I'm blowed if I'm going to waste any more time on Linux64 when I know for certain that Windows 64 will install allowing me to update ANY device driver that requires updating.

Can you see any mention of a printer in that?

... Finished a new build yesterday, tried installing Linux 64 - same issue as previously experienced...

And your "not working" bit is?

Any actual detail?

Or do you know the issue and have some other agenda?



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And your "not working" bit is?
Any actual detail?
Or do you know the issue and have some other agenda?

Do you really read all threads & posts or...

Previous issue experienced:

Device descriptor read/64 - error 32.

So WHAT agenda do you "think" I have?

If you check my computers...
ID: 8899358
Dacom-3
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU B800 @ 1.50GHz [Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7]
(2 processors)
Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia [5.3.0-40-generic|libc 2.27 (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.27-3ubuntu1) (which is happily crunching Open pandemics on WCG).

...you can see I have no issue with installing Linux, so what is your agenda for ignoring valid points raised?

And your "not working" bit is?
Any actual detail?...

Do you really read all threads & posts or...

Nope.

Life is too short for that, especially when also doing other things also.

Previous issue experienced:

Device descriptor read/64 - error 32.

So WHAT agenda do you "think" I have?

I don't know. However, why be cryptic over what does or doesn't work?...

If you check my computers...

That's not something I would normally do.

... (2 processors)
Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia [5.3.0-40-generic|libc 2.27 (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.27-3ubuntu1) (which is happily crunching Open pandemics on WCG).

...you can see I have no issue with installing Linux, so what is your agenda for ignoring valid points raised?

Good going, noted.


To move back on-topic:

"Device descriptor read/64 - error 32" suggests a USB fault or a disk fault depending upon what is prefixed to that message. Or even possibly a weird bit of silliness with splash screens and the 'special ways' of nVidia binary blobs if using nVidia graphics.

There's some good clues with a brief web search:

Search result #1

Search result #2

Search result #3

Take your pick depending upon what other details go with that error for your case.


And note that Windows is not immune from such 'foibles', for example: Fix Error USB Device Descriptor Failure in Windows 10 (Solved)


So for your case, which scenario fits? Fix tried?


Hope that bit of 'leg-work' helps?

Good luck!


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And note that Windows is not immune from such 'foibles', for example: Fix Error USB Device Descriptor Failure in Windows 10 (Solved)

The error can occur due to different reasons. So, you may have to try a number of methods, before it gets fixed. Perform these methods to solve the problem. Before going to try the methods , just Note that If you’re using a USB hub, or have mixed 2.0 and 3.0 USB ports, just try plugging your USB device directly into the 3.0 port and see if it works.

ROFLMAO. Wiggo clued me into that on 16th Feb FOUR days before that was published. Nice one Wiggo. :-)

As for your other links, came across many of those when the issue 1st cropped up. Only found 2 with possible fixes, unfortunately they did not work. All the others were for an installed Linux that threw up a USB issue. Could find no fixes for that issue occurring on installation.
Okay I'm going to put this one to bed.

My Agenda is:
I want an O/S installed on my new build & would like it to be Linux Mint 64 so that I can run the ram hungry programs I use as well as ram hungry Boinc projects. I really don't want to be paying out over £130 for Win 10 64 as I don't like Win 10 full stop! I am only running it on one rig because it was FREE. :-)

I knew I should have kept that copy I purchased when this issue 1st cropped up, but I got an order for a new build so used it. :-(

Note: Where I've underlined, could that also be an issue with Linux 64 as I tried 5 different distro's to date?

Possibly a good giggle:

There is the latest Beta of Mint 20 just out for download.

See: Linux Mint 20 Beta Released - Based On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS


Good luck!

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I've said it before, not enough use of the powerful Mk 1 computer.
We hope the parcels come back
ROFLMAO.

I've said it before, not enough use of the powerful Mk 1 computer.
We hope the parcels come back
ROFLMAO.

Not funny, I was supposed recipient of one of those parcels. Luckily I had visited the tracking page, to get some idea when it was going to turn up, only to find it was going to a post code 300 miles away. I had the good sense to do a page capture and sent copies to the sender and Hermes.

No idea what happened to the original item, I received a replacement paid for by Hermes two days later. Another day wasted staying in the house waiting for the doorbell to ring.

I've said it before, not enough use of the powerful Mk 1 computer.
We hope the parcels come back
ROFLMAO.

Not funny, I was supposed recipient of one of those parcels. Luckily I had visited the tracking page, to get some idea when it was going to turn up, only to find it was going to a post code 300 miles away. I had the good sense to do a page capture and sent copies to the sender and Hermes.

No idea what happened to the original item, I received a replacement paid for by Hermes two days later. Another day wasted staying in the house waiting for the doorbell to ring.

Reading between the lines carefully it sounds as if they printed the wrong barcode on the label, not that the scanner read the code wrong.

Now how can you have that many boxes sitting at the hub and the hub has no idea why the pile of undeliverables is so big?

Quite agree, it's not funny, but this is:

Mr Brown, a retired council worker from Truro, Cornwall, told the Sun: “A lady at customer services told me the ­central hub misdirected parcels because it misread postcodes.
“She said it happened around May 28 and they’re hoping the parcels might come back. To me, this isn’t a satisfactory answer.”

Spent too many years in logistics in one form or another to have worked a full clear week without a mishap of any sorts.

In fact, the worst month experienced in logistics was after passing the Royal Mail tests & spent it at Mount Pleasant
waiting for an opening at WCDO, the office selected. I was glad to get out of there. The things seen even then. I do know that it is just as bad,
especially since privatisation, as have done agency driving for the Royal Mail here.

One thing I have always been proud of is that ALL deliveries on board my wagon were either delivered or card left at customers & goods
returned to depot if customer not at home.
Often as not, all deliveries made.
WHY?
Because there have been occasions in the past where I spent all day in waiting for a delivery to turn up with many a time it did not.

Had the greatest compliment ever received back in 2002, customer (way out in the sticks) asked me how I found her,
especially as that was the 1st time she saw me delivering to her. Knew the area as had been delivering in it for close to 5 years at the time.
Back in 2014, a friend recommended me to Hermes here & when they called, I turned them down flat. They had the nerve to ask me why,
I told them I dislike the way they treat their drivers. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
Edited to insert missing words.

Hmmmm......
MS have had an ARM-compatible version of Windows for a few years, Linux kicks well on ARM. Thus I'm not too surprised that Apple has joined in. What is really fascinating is that they are moving their entire portfolio across. It will be interesting to see which members of the massive ARM family they select for each of their platforms and how many developers port applications across (thus limiting the need for an "x86" emulator).

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Who would believe it?!

YouTube: Linux gaming is BETTER than windows?


Times change?!

Enjoy!

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Fine, so you can play games.

Can you do real work? https://proconnect.intuit.com/lacerte/

Fine, so you can play games.

Can you do real work? https://proconnect.intuit.com/lacerte/

Tax returns...

For that, best is:

a: Use an Accountant;
b: Use the dedicated website of your tax authority.

You could run whatever proprietary software under WINE if the only client is a Windows-only program.

Otherwise...

There is a very good reason why ALL the world's supercomputers run Linux.

Also runs on your PC and laptop and mobile phone.


Enjoy!
Martin

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Fine, so you can play games.

Can you do real work? https://proconnect.intuit.com/lacerte/

Tax returns...

For that, best is:

a: Use an Accountant;
b: Use the dedicated website of your tax authority.

Tax authority has been bribed into not having a fully functional website by accountants. Above Software is for accountants. Doesn't run under wine. Dominate market share. Used to prepare about 1/2 the tax returns in the USA. Must meet tax agency security specifications, which are Doze.
The consumer version https://turbotax.intuit.com/ also only under Doze, no wine.
The software to keep the books https://quickbooks.intuit.com/ also only under Doze, but you do have an option to host the file under *nix. Data transfer to either of the above tax preparing programs. Also prepares payroll and handles direct deposit, tax deposits and merchant banking.
The consumer version https://www.quicken.com/ Doze or Mac no wine. Data transfer to the above tax software. Does simple banking.

The competition https://www.sage.com/en-us/products/sage-50cloud/ Note, comes with Microsoft Office 365, obviously doze only.

So you can play games under *nix. If it is so wonderful and it is free then why aren't these utterly necessary business functions available?

So you can play games under *nix. If it is so wonderful and it is free then why aren't these utterly necessary business functions available?

A very interesting question. Sounds like a failure of the free market to me.

I do my own personal tax returns using a commercial spreadsheet approved by the UK's Inland Revenue. It's designed to run under Excel: next year, I could try running it under Libre Office. on Linux.

So many productivity apps., ie office applications (such as the O365 suite including Excel), database front-ends such as inventory, cataloging, POS etc. now run in browsers, and Linux's browsers such as Firefox and Chrome are functionally equivalent to Windows'.

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