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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34887 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It must be a terrible burden not being able to understand what others obviously and clearly do. |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
Clyde, i hate to break it to you but there's no such thing as a socialist politician in the US. I am trying to understand why you are so afraid of A O-C? She's no different than Bernie. And you like Bernie. What's going on? |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
Starting from the end, in a Trump vs Biden scenario I'd have to vote for Trump because I'm sick of neo-liberalism. Fortunately in the real world I can vote for Jill Stein and dodge that bullet :) But can you explain point #1 in a different way please? I don't quite understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying A O-C would want to try and control Means of Production? Why do you think Bernie is nuanced and A O-c isn't? What did you think of Bernie way back when he was A O-C's age? |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
I'm only guessing but I bet she loved the fact that Trump killed the TPP. Can't think of anything else off the top of my head but I'm sure there are a couple more. I really don't understand why she has to agree with Trump on anything? Why are you saying that? Again, my question was: Why are you afraid of A O-C? That's all I asked... (Forget Trump and Bernie and Biden for a minute) |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
Afraid of a politically stupid person, who describes herself as a democratic [sic] socialist Hehe ok. I'm jumping to conclusions but I'm going to guess this is Fox News being efficient and effective :) To drag this conversation back to reality "the left" in the US (and the rest of the Western World) are the one's with the iPhones. And you can pry them from their cold dead hands :) Even the left are capitalists these days. AOC is not going to turn into Pol Pot if she ever becomes president :) Enjoy Monk. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30684 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Again, my question was: Why are you afraid of A O-C?I am rather sure I can answer that. But first, I don't think that those afraid of A O-C can even admit it to themselves never-mind anyone except deep on redit. They are afraid because: 1) Speaks truth to power. 2) Has ovaries. 3) Well spoken. 4) Not WASP. 5) Motivated. Not necessarily in that order. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34887 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
A big +1 to that. ;-)Again, my question was: Why are you afraid of A O-C?I am rather sure I can answer that. But first, I don't think that those afraid of A O-C can even admit it to themselves never-mind anyone except deep on redit. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I'm only guessing but I bet she loved the fact that Trump killed the TPP. Can't think of anything else off the top of my head but I'm sure there are a couple more. I really don't understand why she has to agree with Trump on anything? Why are you saying that? I have heard it said that the worst parts of TPP were put into NAFTA 2.0. True or not? And, if true, does that allow for the possibility of a resurrection og TPP? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Is actually a dumb question. "Imperfect humans"? "People"? Are you saying that "people" are perfect & ruled by imperfection?It must be a terrible burden not being able to understand what others obviously and clearly do. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Is actually a dumb question. "Imperfect humans"? "People"? Are you saying that "people" are perfect & ruled by imperfection?It must be a terrible burden not being able to understand what others obviously and clearly do. Put another way, why one repeatedly says it will be that there is a small ruling class of imperfect humans (which is what we have now), when what many are calling for is widening the amount of input (multiple imperfect) people can have and hoping that we can come to concensus ... is a great question. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
P.S.-and I suggested previously that, the reason for why, is that someone is lying. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
I have heard it said that the worst parts of TPP were put into NAFTA 2.0. True or not? And, if true, does that allow for the possibility of a resurrection og TPP? Sarge, I wish I could answer the first part but I know nothing of NAFTA 2.0. The last question is easy to answer though: The TPP will be resurrected the MINUTE someone/anyone thinks it's not political suicide to do so. Republican OR Democrat. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34887 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
On the TPP, that will now depend on us Founding Member Countries agreeing to let the U.S. in and you'll only get secondary status privileges if we do (the U.S. has missed out on Founder Country privileges already).I have heard it said that the worst parts of TPP were put into NAFTA 2.0. True or not? And, if true, does that allow for the possibility of a resurrection og TPP?Sarge, I wish I could answer the first part but I know nothing of NAFTA 2.0. |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
They are afraid because: 1) Speaks truth to power. 2) Has ovaries. 3) Well spoken. 4) Not WASP. 5) Motivated. Hehehe :) Until a better theory comes along I'm going to go with #1 and #5 from that list. #5-Motivation: I can't see why a civilian would be bugged by motivation but 99% of career politicians? Hell yes. She makes them looks lazy and, bought & paid for. So I think it's mainly #1. A lot of people seem to lose their sh*t the minute anybody starts "punching-up". It's like a knee-jerk reaction of "how DARE you question the status-quo!?". |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19087 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Sun Maid (dried fruit company) have pulled sponsorship from Fresno Grizzlies after the A O-C video. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30684 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sun Maid (dried fruit company) have pulled sponsorship from Fresno Grizzlies after the A O-C video. That's huge. They are one of the largest employers in the Fresno area through the farms that are part of their cooperative. <ed>And they are the Red part of California. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19087 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Sun Maid (dried fruit company) have pulled sponsorship from Fresno Grizzlies after the A O-C video. Guess they are a big company, many stores here sell them, from 1 oz snack packs to 1 kg boxes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30684 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sun Maid (dried fruit company) have pulled sponsorship from Fresno Grizzlies after the A O-C video. They are big for a private company, Manta says about $360M revenue. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30684 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Heineken, Tecate and Dos Equis all drop the Fresno Grizzlies over the A O-C video. |
iwazaru Send message Joined: 31 Oct 99 Posts: 173 Credit: 509,430 RAC: 0 |
Heineken, Tecate and Dos Equis all drop the Fresno Grizzlies over the A O-C video. They're all the same company... and likely own & sell 90% of beer all the way over here in Greece. Almost every one of their beers over here either tastes like crap, water, or like farts one day and the next batch comes out descent. Just another lovely multi-national that's paid 100s of millions in fines for price fixing. i.e. peanuts :) A O-C FTW though! (BTW I did see that video yesterday and it was really, really bad.) |
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