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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
OK. Young people want to remain and young female in particularly. Both genders over 50 want to exit. https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/distribution-of-eu-referendum-votes-by-age-and-gender-uk/ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19087 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
OK. There are places that break it down further, but you have it correct. So if you take off all those older people on the day of the referendum, and remove all those that will have died by the time Brexit takes place. And add those young people who will be able to vote on Brexit exit day. Then exiting the EU will be welcomed by a minority of the country. n January 2019 Britain will officially switch from a pro-Brexit to an anti-Brexit country, and this is how we know |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20343 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
OK. Add in a sprinkling of poisonous politics, Farage, and a repeat of the Russian backed sponsors poisoning social media and... we have fertile ground for a civil war... The Union may yet be no more... All in the (at present) United Kingdom of Great Britain... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
But we in the Scandinavian countries still call the UK for Storbritannien (Great Britain) :) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Yes the 10% on each side that now realize they were tricked into voting for the other side.making the result the same. :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30684 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
But now Putin can exploit it because each 10% is mad.Yes the 10% on each side that now realize they were tricked into voting for the other side.making the result the same. :-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hmm, who said that "politics is a serious business"? Comedy of Errors A renowned Englishman, William Shakespeare would either be laughing or crying if he could have foreseen his played enacted every day in parliament. :-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
If the groundswell here is anything to go by, tomorrow is going to be an interesting day all round. The three main parties will be certainly be in for a shock if that groundswell actually amounts to anything. There are more independents running tomorrow than I've ever seen in local or national elections here. In my ward, many are annoyed with our regular councillor as she no longer resides in it & has defected to the Lib Dems. That's going to cost her quite a few votes. Going to be a busy month. Local elections tomorrow, a by-election later & Euro elections on the 23rd (can't see the muppets in Westminster agreeing before then anyway). :-) 1st recall in England successful Defence Secretary sacked Definitely a right "Comedy of Errors". |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19087 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
So far, disaster for Tories (-227 seats), a bad night for Labour (-54) and a good night for Lib-Dems (+157) and Independents (+118). edit] Not to be confusing, the UK Independence Party has lost 26 seats. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34887 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Personally IMHO another referendum should be held, and quickly, because the 1st was poorly explained to start with and now the whole country can already see the effects of doing so. You might as well just hold a general election while yous are at it, but that's just my opinion looking at the whole mess from down under. ;-) Cheers. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Personally IMHO another referendum should be held, and quickly, because the 1st was poorly explained to start with and now the whole country can already see the effects of doing so.+1 But LINO (the Leader In Name Only) is so absolutely against any sign of weakness or U-turning that it will take a small earthquake to change her mind. The overnight local election results are very positive, but it's not yet clear whether they'll be enough. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
2 comments from the BBC report on how the main parties fared. Saw an LD candidate who won last night, her view people were distinguished local & national elections differently. She had leave voters who still want to leave support her because they agreed on local, not national issues.Difficult to disagree with. The 2nd comment may have been made in jest but it does highlight a major issue... Shows Vince Cable's natural place is to be a council leader. Not an MP. ...always the bridesmaid, never the bride. Until that changes, they will never succeed to the highest office. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
But LINO (the Leader In Name Only) is so absolutely against any sign of weakness or U-turning that it will take a small earthquake to change her mind.Live reaction to the election results: 13:38 (BST) Speaking after he was escorted out of the venue for heckling Theresa May's speech, Conservative Party member and former county councillor Stuart Davies says he called on the prime minister to resign because of Brexit. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
3 on the trot, I know so my apologies but I can't stop ROFLMFAO as I write this one. Several years ago on this board, I posted a comment about an MP who jumped a red light & never received an endorsement. The reply to that post was...well, I wonder if said poster would write to the BBC complaining after this: Live reaction 14:05 (BST} "Despite both their teams saying 'we get it, we know people want Brexit sorted', it seems to me both are paralysed by the divisions and splits in their own ranks from doing anything. A tissue's not big enough, gotta find a towel to dry my eyes. :-) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20343 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
"Despite both their teams saying 'we get it, we know people want Brexit sorted', it seems to me both are paralysed by the divisions and splits in their own ranks from doing anything. Unfortunately for all, and the whole of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, that is painfully far too apt. All in the world of politics, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Best comment seen today on the results. Theresa May on local election results: "Simple message" |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Well, most of the results are in: For our non-UK readers, CON and LAB are our traditional two 'big beasts', roughly equivalent to Republican and Democrat in the USA (note reversed colo(u)r scheme). Both of them have 'committed' themselves to honouring the result of the Brexit referendum, but they're struggling to find an implementation mechanism. GRN and LD are smaller, but still long established, political parties. Both support the UK remaining in the EU. UKIP were the one-subject pressure group that got this whole mess started. They've been suffering from a loss of direction and changes in personnel: I wouldn't call their poor showing as signifying anything in particular about the principle of Brexit. The 'OTHers' were mostly self-described as Independents - no party affiliation. Some of them may well have resigned from their previous party - I doubt that many of them are complete newcomers to elected political office. But, again, they don't tell us anything about the general population's current views on Brexit. So, the clues are buried in 'CON+LAB' vs. 'GRN+LD'. Whichever way I read those, I still can't make them say "The will of the British People is to leave the European Union". Chart and other data from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48091592 |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It really is a shame that many local & national politicians ignore the people in their constitutions & thinking they are nothing but "sheeple" to be herded. One of the biggest casualties of the night came in the final result when Liberal Democrat Bella Saltmarsh, a councillor since 2006, lost her seat to Labour’s Katia Yurgutene.IMHO, had she stayed with the Liberal Party, she would still be collecting her £6,000 per annum as a councillor. Edit: Staying with the local news - Our disgraced MP has announced that she will not be standing in the by-election which is to be held on 6th June. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
EU election coming up soon and the UK is still in the EU and have to go through the election ... Nigel Farage's Brexit Party polling higher than Labour and Tories combined before EU elections https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farages-brexit-party-polling-higher-than-labour-and-tories-combined-before-eu-elections-11717553 But who bother since the UK will exit the EU anyway. Or? Some thinks it's a meltdown for Tories and Labour... |
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