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Message 1986148 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 17:13:14 UTC - in response to Message 1986141.  

Oh dear :-)
Mr Tusk said he believed all 27 members, who must sign off on the extension, would agree but it depended on a "positive" vote in the House of Commons.
He also suggested there were some "political and legal issues" about granting an extension beyond 23 May relating to the UK's participation in European elections - which Mrs May has said would be "unacceptable".
Delay possible but not beyond 30 June
I think we've now reached "Brexit Status MAD" (in the cold war sense).

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Message 1986160 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 17:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 1986148.  
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I think we've now reached "Brexit Status MAD" (in the cold war sense).

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Well timed post as this has just been said...
Conservative MP Dominic Grieve says Theresa May is "zig-zagging all over the place, rather than acting in the national interest".
"I have never felt more ashamed to be part of the Conservative Party," he says.
He adds that if there is a third vote on whether to approve the PM's deal next week, then he believes it will be rejected again.
"The government's credibility is running out," he concludes.
An eU-boat is in the area. :-)

Edit... even worse...
No 10 says Pm is not going to the 1922 tonight - this will tick off quite a lot of backbenchers who want to hear what her real plan is - may be a move she regrets.
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Message 1986167 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 18:10:34 UTC

Swedish PM Stefan Löfven says, during a consultation with the Riksdag's EU committee before the EU summit, that Sweden is ready to agree to an extension, even longer, if the British demand it.
He says that the British request for extension must be properly motivated, but perceive that none of the 27 remaining EU countries absolutely oppose an extension.
However, it is impossible to negotiate the exit agreement from the EU, according to Löfven. It lies as it is.
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Message 1986182 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 18:57:05 UTC
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Prime Minister to address the nation at 20:15 UTC tonight.

Many are saying that if the next vote is rejected the next step will be a general election.
Waste of time that will be.
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BBC chief political correspondent Vicki Young says it is her understanding that the prime minister's statement "is not going to be a moment where she calls a general election or resigns".
"It is her explaining why she is going to ask for this delay to Brexit.
"She clearly thinks it is the fault of MPs.
"There is a lot of talk about her leadership from all wings of her party - they certainly feel that it is her fault."

Tory Brexiteer Mark Francois says he does not believe enough MPs will get behind Theresa May's deal if it is put to MPs again next week.
"My colleagues are solidly against it," he says, noting that he will not be supporting it himself.
"It is not what 17.4 million people voted for."
"We in the ERG are the good guys," Mr Francois says, adding: "We are not going to give in."
"We have a laser-like focus on honouring the wish of the people...in nine days from now this country could be free."

Three different sources tell @nickeardleybbc and I that Jeremy Corbyn walked out of the meeting with that PM because Chuka Umunna of TiG was there.
Just confirmation that the 650 benefit scroungers in Westminister don't give a t*** about the country but their own little world.
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Message 1986187 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 19:41:59 UTC - in response to Message 1986182.  
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Prime Minister to address the nation at 20:15 UTC tonight.
She can talk to herself. I'm off to the pub.
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Message 1986203 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 20:46:26 UTC

What a load of codswallop!
"We asked you, the public a question & you gave us your answer. An answer I'm determined to carry out"
SO why the extension you dumb b*tch?
Out means out.
Have to agree with what an MP said earlier:
"The most unpopular Prime Minister in British history"
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Message 1986214 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 21:19:29 UTC

Exactly 1,000 days have passed since the British people voted in favor of leaving the EU.
So when will the UK leave the EU? March 29? In three months? Nine maybe? Or in a couple of years? Nobody knows. But on the other hand, it has only gone 1,000 days since the referendum took place. So why hurry?
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Message 1986216 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 21:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 1986214.  
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So why hurry?
Because a "democratic" vote was taken. If left to the "650 benefit scroungers" it will never happen. So what price democracy?
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Now, the clock has virtually run out and almost all is lost - exactly as the European elites were hoping.
Sadly. I have to agree with him
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Message 1986218 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 21:36:40 UTC

Have we left yet? No?

Time for the men in grey suits, methinks.
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Message 1986219 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 21:41:28 UTC - in response to Message 1986216.  

It was meant to be sarcastic.
Apparently Britain already has got some new trade deals with a couple of countries. Norway and Iceland for instance.
So it's not like Britain would "suffer" from leaving the EU now in 29 Mars.
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Message 1986220 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 21:49:07 UTC - in response to Message 1986219.  

Apparently Britain already has got some new trade deals with a couple of countries. Norway and Iceland for instance.
As of three days ago, Britain had replaced just 7 of the 40 trade deals it will lose by leaving the EU. All small ones:

Pacific Islands (signed 14 March)
Israel (18 February)
Palestinian Authority (18 February)
Switzerland (11 February)
The Faroe Islands (1 February)
Eastern and Southern Africa (31 January)
Chile (30 January)

No Norway or Iceland. From Brexit: What trade deals has the UK done so far?
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Message 1986221 - Posted: 20 Mar 2019, 21:54:11 UTC - in response to Message 1986220.  

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/norge-och-island-skriver-brexitavtal
Britain agrees with Norway and Iceland on an agreement that secures the tariffs if it gets so that the UK crashes out of the EU.

The negotiations were concluded last Friday, states NTB, and the countries agreed on important provisions that are currently regulated by the EEA agreement.

All current customs rules are inclusive, including zero duty on industrial goods, fish and agricultural products. However, it does not cover all regulations regarding trade in food, animals and plants, but here the UK has stated that it will approve imports from Norway and Iceland during a transition period.

Next largest so far
Norway's Foreign Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide describes in a press release the agreement as "very positive for Norwegian business and industry".

UK Trade Minister Liam Fox describes the agreement with Norway and Iceland as the second largest of the agreements so far. The British trade with the EEA countries is estimated to be worth almost £ 30 billion, equivalent to nearly SEK 370 billion.
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Message 1986343 - Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 14:18:45 UTC - in response to Message 1986337.  

Or even https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

I signed this morning at around #660,000 (and it took me several attempts to reach each page in the process). It's gone up by 300,000 since then, and will probably break through a million this afternoon, UK time. But I don't think anyone is listening.
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Message 1986423 - Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 23:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 1986343.  

Now over 2 miliion - but still Theresa May rules it out.
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Message 1986428 - Posted: 21 Mar 2019, 23:54:48 UTC

The EU has agreed to extend Britain's negotiating time for Brexit. But far from being so long as Prime Minister Theresa May wanted.
Britain may get time until May 22 if May get the exit agreement granted by the Parliament. Otherwise, it is April 12.
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Message 1986451 - Posted: 22 Mar 2019, 1:40:47 UTC

I am taking this to mean, the government did not have, and still really hasn't, any plans for a hard Brexit and feels it needs to keep it hidden from us.

Sky News - Brexit: Hundreds of gagging orders taken out by government

Sky News can reveal that the government has taken out hundreds of gagging orders as part of its preparations for a no-deal Brexit. The orders, formerly known as non-disclosure agreements (NDAs), are legally binding contracts to stop confidential conversations being talked about in public.
They are typically used to maintain secrecy around corporate deals or to protect intellectual property. However, we have discovered that the use of these NDAs has become prevalent across great swathes of the UK government.
Using freedom of information requests, Sky News asked departments to reveal how many NDAs each had taken out as part of their preparations for Brexit. All responded, although not all of them actually answered the question.
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Message 1986460 - Posted: 22 Mar 2019, 2:06:43 UTC
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IMP the Brits shot themselves in in the foot. The common market was a good idea. the EU that is open to question.
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Message 1986507 - Posted: 22 Mar 2019, 6:36:33 UTC - in response to Message 1986460.  

Many voices have been saying that since 7 Feb 1992 with the voices getting louder since 13 Dec 2007.
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