Second, the first referendum was presented in the matter of can they explore the possibility
of a Brexit. From there it has been ram-rodded as an entitlement to ramrod it through.

The vote did not have the words 'explore the possibility of a Brexit.', just LEAVE the European Union, or REMAIN the European Union.

All the arguments and implications on what Leaving would mean were fully argued both ways, yet we still voted to LEAVE.

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One error in your map the Isle of Man is NOT part of the United Kingdom, but an independent sovereign state. One with its own government, laws, currency etc.
It is however part of the British Isles by virtue of its geographic location.

And it is not member of the EU, but does have its own trading relations with the EU, the UK and Eire (and many other parts of the World)

Yet it does use the same currency as the UK, if you ever visit, the money minted in Ireland and Scotland is also the same currency, they are all using the Bank of England as Lender of Last Resort. So do the British Overseas Territories, they mint/print their money on their islands, and it is Sterling.

Having been to the Isle of Man, my money from England is accepted and I get the current change in money printed/minted on the Isle, and when I come back to England, I spend Isle of Man printed/minted money here and receive the correct change. Same happens for any GBP Currency supported by the Bank of England.

One quirk is you can get £100 notes outside of England, which is still legal tender in England, the biggest note printed by the Bank of England is £50.

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And ask Scottish voters how they feel about being under the English jackboot, again.

They voted to stay united with the rest of the UK, on the assurance that the UK would remain a member of the EU.

And then they voted to remain in the EU, on the same day that England and Wales voted to leave the EU.

And now they're being told that a referendum is for life, even if other people change the rules.

oh dear, not another distortion of the truth.

The SNP did not campaign in the General Election to have an Independence Referendum for Scotland, their focus was on BREXIT and the NHS, had they added in the indyref2 they want, then maybe the vote would have been different.

In a Referendum all votes are counted For & Against, in a UK General Election under First Past the Post, only the candidate with the most votes gets to be an MP, and all the rest of the votes are discarded.

Actual votes in Scotland for the SNP were ~1.2 Million, compared to ~1.4 Million who voted for other candidates, so if it were indyref2 the result would have been Leave the UK ~46% Stay a part of the UK 54%

There is no mandate for a Scottish Independence Referendum.

Northern Ireland is a little more complex, wouldn't like to say.

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Northern Ireland is a little more complex, wouldn't like to say.

Where British politics is concerned, that will be an on going issue for a good few years to come.

"The great irony of all of this is that for decades unionists have looked over their shoulders and decided that Irish nationalists were the great threat ... but actually it's English nationalism," Mike Nesbitt, former leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, told the BBC.

The problem that I personally feel is a big one for England. A United Ireland to the West, an independent Scotland to the North, an independent Wales to the East & a country that hates England to the South.
That will eventually be the outcome if the UK is broken up. Not a very nice prospect.
Should that occur & London continues in the vain it has done for decades with regards to the rest of the country, what hope for the rest of England?
Prompts for border poll

Potential Labour leadership candidate Emily Thornberry says she’s taking legal action against colleague Caroline Flint for ‘making up s**t’ about her.
In 2014 Thornberry was accused of snobbery and forced to resign from Ed Miliband’s shadow cabinet after tweeting a photo of a St George’s flag draped outside a house in Strood, Kent with the caption: ‘Image from Rochester’.

ROFLMAO.
That's Labour screwed for the next 10 years at least

"I've pledged to take an average workers' wage which the Office for National Statistics calculates as being just over £35,000 a year," she said.

How refreshing. :-)

oh dear, not another distortion of the truth.

Which part of

• they were told the UK was staying in the EU
  
• they voted to remain in the UK
  
• The UK-English changed their mind
  

are you quibbling with?

They hardly need to re-iterate 'independence' in their manifesto - Scots voters know it's baked into their constitution.

Potential Labour leadership candidate Emily Thornberry says she’s taking legal action against colleague Caroline Flint for ‘making up s**t’ about her.
In 2014 Thornberry was accused of snobbery and forced to resign from Ed Miliband’s shadow cabinet after tweeting a photo of a St George’s flag draped outside a house in Strood, Kent with the caption: ‘Image from Rochester’.

ROFLMAO.
That's Labour screwed for the next 10 years at least

"I've pledged to take an average workers' wage which the Office for National Statistics calculates as being just over £35,000 a year," she said.

How refreshing. :-)

Is that the total she will take, or is that on top of the housing rental costs (£29,000), office costs (£29,000), start up fee (£6,000), London Area Living Payment (£4,000) and the Travel and Subsistence payments (no limit).

Did you notice the smiley?
I'll lay odds that she was already aware of those, hence the pledge. Not bad income for a 23 year old just for the ability to gob off.

Ignoring that the ONS actually states the average HOUSEHOLD income is ~£36k, but the individual full-time is only 29.5k..... Typical politician, use the facts that fit your argument.

935. Posted by Better together
Emily Thornberry should run for leadership and guarantee that Labour will spend decades out of government. She represents everything that is wrong with a once great party.

Leadership candidate :-)

Elsewhere in the EU...
Oops :-)

This Friday afternoon, the British Parliament voted through the laws needed to enforce Brexit. Boris Johnson and his Tories won by a majority of 124 votes and have now taken the UK one step closer to leaving the EU on 31 January.
A great cheer broke out among the Conservatives when the result was read out, and one MP shouted "back of the net!"

Labour leader Mr Corbyn said the government's "mishandling of Brexit" had "paralysed the political system," divided communities and was a "national embarrassment".
He said MPs "have to respect the decision" of the EU referendum in 2016 "and move on".
"However, that doesn't mean that we as a party should abandon our basic principles," he said.
"Labour will not support this bill, as we remain certain there is a better and fairer way for this country to leave the EU."

Says the muppet who sat on the fence.
If Thornberry becomes leader, that's the Labour Party screwed for the next 2 decades. At least!

Now the blackmail starts...

Yep, several blank cheques need to be signed.

Declare that one could live on £53 a week, then go out & spend £39 on a breakfast...
...reward...
...a knighthood.

SHEESH!

Hidden amongst those "celebrities", a well worthy MBE.



The memorial in question is the Normandy Memorial which opens on 4th September 2020.

Think fish head needs to put a filter lock on her mouth.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon had previously pledged that the 2014 referendum would be a "once in a generation" vote.

Uk Govt denies Indyref#2

T-170 hours
Took long enough!

No bongs, though. Brexiteers never could plan ahead.

I'll believe it at 23:01 next Friday. As for bongs, didn't have any going in, so none needed in getting out.