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Message 1995401 - Posted: 26 May 2019, 22:42:11 UTC - in response to Message 1995398.  

ITMA.

That man did it again. Labour will never win while they have Corbyn at their head. The Lib Dems will definitely storm ahead if in their leadership contest, they DO NOT elect another "fop" like Nickerless Clegg.
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Message 1995416 - Posted: 27 May 2019, 1:01:13 UTC
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Update.
https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c7zzdg3pmgpt/european-elections-2019
The projected results for the new European Parliament show significant losses for the two main groups, the centre-right European People’s Party and the centre-left Socialists and Democrats, although they remain the largest groups.
The Greens and Liberal groups have made gains, as well as the right-wing nationalist and populist groups.

Farage's Brexit party is expected to be one of the largest single parties in the European Parliament, together with the German CDU and Italian Lega, writes TT.
Forza la Gran Bretagna:)
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Message 1995473 - Posted: 27 May 2019, 16:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 1995416.  

Farage's Brexit party is expected to be one of the largest single parties in the European Parliament, together with the German CDU and Italian Lega, writes TT.
Forza la Gran Bretagna:)
That's going to be crucial especially with Marine Le Pen in the mix.
EU leaders come to Brussels on Tuesday to discuss that post and a host of other influential EU jobs about to become vacant, like that of European Council President (the person who represents all EU member countries in Brussels, replacing Donald Tusk) and the presidency of the European Central Bank.
At least no more Mr Drunker.
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Message 1995488 - Posted: 27 May 2019, 19:20:08 UTC

Copy of the e-mail just sent.

1st, congratulations on such a fantastic win. I see that you do not want to see the UK pay the EU's financial settlement. Personally, I would pay it, but only after forcing the European Union to pay the UK a settlement of £250,000,000 for the constant breaches of their own rules & regulations, specifically the Dublin Regulation.

Seeing on the mainstream media some time ago of the Mayor of Calais castigating the UK on the migrant issue followed by a French Minister calling the UK a "piddling little island" was a statement too far.

On 26th July 2017 "The EU's top court has ruled that a law requiring refugees to seek asylum in the first country they reach applies even in exceptional circumstances."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40714946

If you genuinely believe what you stated in Southampton last night, then build a strong election team with the theme "A strong Britain is a united Britain.

As seen on the 2nd May & last night, the two major parties in this country have shown all, just how ineffective & self serving they really are.

The Brexit Party will be getting my vote on 6th June. An appropriate date in my view.
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Message 1995489 - Posted: 27 May 2019, 19:21:49 UTC

I thought that right-wing nationalist (ENF) and populist groups (EFD) would had gained more in this EU election.
ENF has now 58 seats from Italy, France, Austria, Belgium and Hungary.
EFD 54 seats from the UK, Germany and Italy.
And in Britain the anti-Brexit parties actually did better than the pro-Brexit ones

But then the turnout of the EU election is much lower then if it was a referendum or a general election.
However results in maps and charts
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48417191
When will the European Union get United?
Nice vision but it will probably never happen...
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Message 1995513 - Posted: 27 May 2019, 21:29:37 UTC
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European MEP talks plainly & hard
Tusk did not like it, TS. :-)
Buy one, get one free :-)
I know one thing, the European Parliament will be glad to see the back of him (as will the con artists & liebour) :-)

German MEP in 2017.
UK, last country with common sense to leave the EU
Makes one wonder just what Mr Drunker & Mr Ivory are after.
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Message 1995531 - Posted: 27 May 2019, 22:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 1995513.  

More like that Tusk being fed up with the british delays one after the other I would say.
Anyway. Nigel Farage in the dovecote as Guy Verhofstadt put it:)
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Message 1995650 - Posted: 28 May 2019, 19:15:54 UTC
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Message 1995725 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 5:47:04 UTC

â—¾Environment Secretary Michael Gove
â—¾Health Secretary Matt Hancock
â—¾Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt
â—¾Home Secretary Sajid Javid
â—¾Former Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson x
â—¾Former Leader of the House Andrea Leadsom
â—¾Housing minister Kit Malthouse
â—¾Former Work and Pensions Secretary Esther McVey
â—¾Former Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab
â—¾International Development Secretary Rory Stewart
God help the UK for the next 3 years
Yellowee Corbyn to back 2nd referendum
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Message 1995727 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 6:10:06 UTC
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Quite frankly a 2nd referendum is absolutely needed IMHO as the 1st didn't have any exit plan to start with (and should've, but still doesn't have 1) while it also wasn't explained in any way properly to make full sense to any of the voting public.

Hopefully a 2nd 1 now will have a much better educated voter attend the polls than before.

Cheers.
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Message 1995729 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 6:53:26 UTC - in response to Message 1995727.  
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If that happens, then democracy in this country is dead. One only has to look to the shenanigans of the Maastricht & Lisbon treaties.
Once the result of the referendum became known & Article 50 was declared, there were 2 years to formulate a trade agreement. If no agreement, leave at the end of the 2 years, leaving the UK to trade around the world.
Haven't you already stated such a thing with the issues regarding Trump & his trade wars with Australia being able to trade with who they wish & not needing America to survive?
You can't have your bread buttered on both sides.
Edit: What is annoying is the remoaners camp stating that "taking all the remain parties" results, it comes to 40.6% thereby have the majority over the leavers. That is incorrect, as the leavers can do just the same. With the Labour party getting 14.1 % of the vote, a party which has both leaver & remainers within, on near enough an even split & adding to Tories, leave totals 51% - Remain on 47% .A near enough parity with the result of the 2016 referendum.
A 2nd referendum = democracy dead.
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Message 1995731 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 7:12:39 UTC
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You can't have your bread buttered on both sides.
No you can't Sirius, but our position is greatly different to yours.

Most of your trade is done through Europe, where as ours is mostly done through SE & Middle Asia (very little of our trading is actually directly done with the U.S., in fact it's very small amount of it). ;-)

[edit] In fact we do more trade with Europe than we actually do with the U.S..
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Message 1995733 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 7:21:58 UTC - in response to Message 1995731.  

Maybe so, but as seen with America, Canada & China, the EU chastised the UK for "daring" to go ahead with those agreements & forced the UK to cease.
Question: When you speak of Europe, are you referring to the Continent of Europe or are you talking about the EU?
There is one hell of a big difference between the 2.
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Message 1995735 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 7:30:26 UTC

The E.U. then as we're not sending our Vodka to Russia anymore. ;-)
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Message 1995739 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 7:42:29 UTC - in response to Message 1995735.  

Ah but you are in a way, many Europeans are now saying that the wall came down in 1991 but the EU is re-erecting it (a view I share, as the EU is too communistic for my liking).
I listen to a talk-in show on Monday evening which threw up many surprises.

A Romanian who lived under communist rule stated exactly that. He is a conservative member yet voted Brexit on Thursday.
Another caller was a young Englishman from Leeds who at the time of the referendum was too young to vote (16) & had spent the time campaigning to remain & also was a young conservative. He gave up on the party approx. 6 months ago & voted for Brexit as his party was "an absolute joke". When he was told that they may expel him from the party if they get to know his identity, he said "Let them".

I could not believe how many Tories called in with similar views. The UK needs a strong leader with a strong government, not a self serving one.
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Message 1995740 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 8:01:39 UTC - in response to Message 1995729.  

I think you have to be cautious with those numbers from last week. the turnout was low ~38% and compare it with the 80+% turnout for the referendum.

Most people I spoke to thought last week was a total waste of time.
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Message 1995741 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 8:04:08 UTC - in response to Message 1995740.  
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Agree, but they're not my numbers but those of the party leaders, as well as many "commentators".
Edit: Many are saying that the reason why the turnout was so low was because, they voted to leave & didn't see the point of voting in an election for a group that the country would be leaving. Had they done so...
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Message 1995742 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 8:06:41 UTC
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That's what you get with right wing politics these days (playing on peoples' fears and elevating them) and we have to put up with another 3yrs of them here, but here they now know what the public wants so they stepped to the left (or more central) so that they have a chance of surviving (and they know that it's their final chance if they don't) as the left (who lost) also makes a step to the right (again more central) to have a better chance of winning the next round.
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Message 1995743 - Posted: 29 May 2019, 8:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 1995742.  

Here's hoping that Sunday's results does the same here. But atm that seems like cloud cuckoo land. :-(
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