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Message 1942397 - Posted: 2 Jul 2018, 21:21:52 UTC - in response to Message 1942391.  

So you finally agree that his enemies in these forums, in the USA and internationally are "brainless".

Some not all as you assert.
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Message 1942400 - Posted: 2 Jul 2018, 21:26:27 UTC

Is Clyde finally admitting that he is brainless or is he trying to say something else?
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Message 1942401 - Posted: 2 Jul 2018, 21:29:08 UTC - in response to Message 1942400.  

Clyde is to Seti what Trump is to Twitter. :-)
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Message 1942404 - Posted: 2 Jul 2018, 22:20:54 UTC - in response to Message 1942401.  

ROTFLMAOPMP!
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Message 1942407 - Posted: 2 Jul 2018, 23:53:01 UTC - in response to Message 1942404.  

ROTFLMAOPMP!
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Message 1942409 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 0:10:42 UTC - in response to Message 1942404.  

Yep
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Message 1942436 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 7:51:56 UTC

The more you post what you think Clyde the more you show your own total lack of understanding and just further reinforce our belief in your total ignorance.

Clyde, is there any chance of you being related to your so inglorious president? Because you also keep showing us the exact same characteristics as he does.
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Message 1942438 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 8:46:18 UTC

Yes, they are unbelievably so stupid in not understanding Trump is playing them for the fools that they are.


Nothing I have read over here in the UK suggests to me that Trump has any real idea of what the results of his actions will be

He is trying to run the USA like he would one of his companies, where what he says goes no arguments and he can fire all who disagree with him.

His actions seem to say he is going for the short term gain, as he would with any of his companies, if the strategy does not work that's fine the company can be asset stripped and go bankrupt. . . . . .

I certainly do not believe he has got his head around just what it means to be a politician, even a bad one.

However we shall see.
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Message 1942459 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 12:49:40 UTC - in response to Message 1942458.  

& costing your country jobs in the process. You don't care though, the American taxpayer will continue paying your monthly pension. Both you & Trump are classic cases of FYJIA.
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Message 1942467 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 13:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 1942466.  

Your ignoring the macro economics of the Trump trade policies is appalling.
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Message 1942469 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 13:54:04 UTC - in response to Message 1942467.  

Your ignoring the macro economics of the Trump trade policies is appalling.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/02/donald-trump/donald-trump-base-describing-gdp-growth-his-watch/
During a June 28 visit to Mount Pleasant, Wis. -- the site of a planned Foxconn manufacturing facility -- President Donald Trump touted his economic record, including the growth of the nation’s gross domestic product, which measures the size of the economy.

"Watch those GDP numbers," Trump said. "We started off at a very low number, and right now we hit a 3.2," or 3.2 percentage growth compared to the last quarter on an annualized basis. "Nobody thought that was possible."

This statement includes both factual inaccuracies and an apparent misunderstanding of the statistical measurement Trump is citing.

Trump’s first problem is a straightforward factual inaccuracy. He said that "right now," growth was 3.2 percent. However, the most recent growth number, for the first quarter of 2018, wasn’t 3.2 percent. It was considerably lower, at 2.0 percent. (The next growth number, for the second quarter of 2018, won’t be available for several more weeks.)

On Trump’s watch, the U.S. did see one quarter of 3.2 percent growth -- the third quarter of 2017. By now, that data point is three quarters old.

Arguably, the bigger problem with Trump’s assertion is the idea that "nobody thought that was possible." Here, Trump is confusing 3 percent growth during a single quarter with 3 percent growth sustained over an entire year.

By contrast, quarterly increases of 3 percent are not rare -- in fact, they happened eight times under Obama, including levels Trump has not yet reached, such as 4.6 percent (twice) and 5.2 percent (once).

We rate the statement False.

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Message 1942471 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:06:15 UTC - in response to Message 1942470.  

But what are their proposals to move forward?

I would have thought that was obvious, get your president to stop placing tariffs on countries that are/were allies of the US.
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Message 1942472 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:07:33 UTC - in response to Message 1942470.  

Trump emulating Europe's, China's and other countries belief in the necessity to impose Tariffs to protect their countries economies and workers.

May not be beneficial to many countries, including the USA.

But what are their proposals to move forward?

There will be none as long as Trump is in power because he views trade as a zero sum game as he views all transactions.
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Message 1942474 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 1942471.  

The blind see what they want to see, the deaf hear what they want to hear & the dumb continue spouting B/S :-)
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Message 1942477 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 1942476.  

The blind see what they want to see, the deaf hear what they want to hear & the dumb continue spouting B/S :-)

I would have thought that was obvious, get your president to stop placing tariffs on countries that are/were allies of the US.
Why not then have no tariffs between 'friends'?

Any answer?
No tariffs equal greed running riot as no individual country would be able to restrain themselves. No greed then one day your utopia may happen. Until then...
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Message 1942478 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:20:15 UTC

Trump right now.
Now that Harley-Davidson is moving part of its operation out of the U.S., my Administration is working with other Motor Cycle companies who want to move into the U.S. Harley customers are not happy with their move - sales are down 7% in 2017. The U.S. is where the Action is!
Interesting.
American motorcycle companies moving out and other countries moving in.
Most likely the same american workers will do the same job.
Or will they?
Accept a huge cut in salaries and it perhaps will work.
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Message 1942481 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 1942479.  

So the reason European Countries and China among all others impose Tariffs upon imported goods. Doesn't include protecting their countries industries and workers?

Really?
Are you really .... ....? Tariffs are the protection.
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Message 1942482 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 1942473.  
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BTW: Why do the 'allies' have tariffs?
Why not then have no tariffs between 'friends'?

http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/united-states/
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Given the low average tariffs (under 3%), the key to unlocking this potential lies in the tackling of non-tariff barriers. These consist mainly of customs procedures and behind the border regulatory restrictions.
The non-tariff barriers come from diverging regulatory systems (standards definitions notably), but also other non-tariff measures, such as those related to certain aspects of security or consumer protection.
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Message 1942485 - Posted: 3 Jul 2018, 14:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 1942483.  

Tut tut tut Clyde. Time you took an economics class. With that reply of yours, can you please explain HOW Trump did NOT add tariffs BUT increased them?
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