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Message 1945820 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 5:10:26 UTC - in response to Message 1945714.  

Are you against the opposition in geopolitics and the US wants to dominate the whole world?

The USA doesn't want to dominate the world. Wall Street wants to dominate the world. That is the nature of the fiduciary duty. The most vile amoral concept invented by lawyers.
Of course Russian oligarchs want to dominate the world. They want to for personal wealth, which isn't much different than the fiduciary duty. Maximize profit at any cost.

I find most of your comments about the internal workings of the USA to be hilarious in the light of Trump's election and campaign.
He wants the USA to be isolationist and is working to that end. He wants to ban Muslims and Saudi's are a Muslim state country. His base (supporters) can't tell the difference between a Muslim and a terrorist.

Are Russians that uninformed about the USA? Or is the Soviet propaganda machine simply repeating the same lies to fuel hate and discord as it has since the cold war?
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Message 1945823 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 6:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 1945821.  

Why does the US have 700 military bases around the world?
If the US had no military bases outside the US, then I would have believed you.

Trump has stated he wants to close all of them. Do you not believe his words?
(The only way his domestic policy works is he he cuts the military budget drastically and makes the USA isolationist as it was before WWII. You did hear his remarks that the USA isn't going to pay for NATO anymore didn't you?)


Are you saying that Russian and American oligarchs are fighting each other through governments?

YES They are chasing the same money in other countries which they want, and they want it all and won't share.

America doesn't have oligarchs, they can't afford the taxes, they are mostly Europeans and some Chinese just using Wall Street and American courts.
(By the way you should look up how much China has invested in US government bonds. [I see that Russia just sold its US Government bonds and bought gold. Does that mean Russia intends on making instability/war to make gold prices climb on world markets?])


How can you ban Muslims? if Trump knows how to do it, then he is a "genius"))))) Whom does Trump still want to ban?

He wants "a total ban on Muslims."
https://www.cato.org/blog/dozen-times-trump-equated-travel-ban-muslim-ban wrote:
This fact matters because the constitutional case against the ban depends, in part, on Trump’s statements about it—specifically, the fact that he has repeatedly equated his current policy with his original proposal for a “Muslim ban.”

He also wants to ban Mexicans and Central and South Americans calling all of them murders, rapists and drug smugglers.
https://twitter.com/realdonad_trump?lang=en
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Message 1945844 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 14:45:31 UTC - in response to Message 1945824.  

Trump has stated he wants to close all of them. Do you not believe his words?
(The only way his domestic policy works is he he cuts the military budget drastically and makes the USA isolationist as it was before WWII. You did hear his remarks that the USA isn't going to pay for NATO anymore didn't you?)


Trump says a lot and it's hard to understand.

Yes.

The US military budget will grow until 2021.

Military budget is for a single year only.

2016 - 607 billion dollars
2017 - 618.7 billion dollars
2018 - 700 billion dollars

How much of that is for old age pensions?

Russians pay only for their defense.

SNORT, Bashir al-Assad

NATO is a good market for the sale of American weapons. The profit from sales is higher than the payment for membership in NATO.

NATO sales aren't sales, they are gifts from the US tax payer.

America doesn't have oligarchs, they can't afford the taxes, they are mostly Europeans and some Chinese just using Wall Street and American courts.
(By the way you should look up how much China has invested in US government bonds. [I see that Russia just sold its US Government bonds and bought gold. Does that mean Russia intends on making instability/war to make gold prices climb on world markets?])


We understand the word "oligarch" differently.
In russia, now all large companies pay taxes, we have brought order in this area.

In the USA, USA companies pay taxes. Non USA companies only pay a pittance in taxes, but they get access to Wall Street and the US Court system. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/adr.asp
The oligarch (Russian understanding) is a person who influences politics in the country. Putin ousted the oligarchs from power, for which Russians are grateful to him. In America, there lobbying is a good way to influence policy in the country.

Putin only ousted a vocal few who disagreed with him. To oust them all there could not be private companies in Russia, everything would be owned by the state. Mere ownership of a private company gives power and influence. Money talks.

He wants "a total ban on Muslims."

It is necessary to fight not with Muslims, not with Latin Americans, but with crime.
If Trump's statements find support in society, then the US police, court, FBI and other services work ineffectively. It's on them you need to pay attention, rather than make populist statements.

The US police court, FBI, etc. work effectively. Russian propaganda bots spread lies that they are not working. Lies such as there are places the police won't go. Propaganda such as https://www.wnd.com/2017/08/no-go-zones-brewing-in-u-s-author-warns/ Perhaps our CIA should do the same in Russia? Your country has put a mad man in power in the USA. If the USA invades Russia it will be your own fault.
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Message 1945861 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 17:52:00 UTC - in response to Message 1945844.  

Russian propaganda bots spread lies that they are not working. Lies such as there are places the police won't go. Propaganda such as https://www.wnd.com/2017/08/no-go-zones-brewing-in-u-s-author-warns/ Perhaps our CIA should do the same in Russia? Your country has put a mad man in power in the USA. If the USA invades Russia it will be your own fault.
Both Russia and the US have the same propaganda about so called no-go zones in Sweden!
In Sputnik News there are least one article a week about our "huge" problems.
US WorldNetDaily (WND) seems to be the same cr*p.

WND wrote about Sweden in that article about our "huge" problems as well.
Caption" Raheem Kassam in the Rosengård area of Malmö, Sweden, a ‘no-go zone’ he visited in February 2017"

I don't even belive that Kassam have been to Rosengård in Malmö.
He is standing 200 meters from Husby subway station in Stockholm 625 km from Rosengård!!!!
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Message 1945886 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 23:16:09 UTC - in response to Message 1945885.  

What has that got to do with the US Government? It's just your government tightening its control!
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Message 1945887 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 23:20:54 UTC - in response to Message 1945885.  

You may recall that the US government has done with the TV channel Russia Today?

Remember you said all Russian media is controlled by the state.
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Message 1945889 - Posted: 22 Jul 2018, 23:30:54 UTC - in response to Message 1945887.  

You may recall that the US government has done with the TV channel Russia Today?

Remember you said all Russian media is controlled by the state.
Surely not. The Russian State & its people are not that gullible. :-)
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Message 1945895 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 0:12:27 UTC - in response to Message 1945894.  

SO why are you blaming the US?
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Message 1945897 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 0:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 1945896.  

I do not blame the US, I'm stating the facts.
Don't see any "facts" here, just attempt to shift blame.
You may recall that the US government has done with the TV channel Russia Today?
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Message 1945898 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 0:30:31 UTC

Facts are backed up by evidence, all you are doing is stating your opinions (and not very good ones either). ;-)

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Message 1945906 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 1:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 1945893.  

You may recall that the US government has done with the TV channel Russia Today?

Remember you said all Russian media is controlled by the state.


I did not say that, I said that in any country the media is controlled by the state.

Is Russia Today, Russian? Yes.
Is Russia Today, media? Yes.
Is Russia a state? Yes.
Is media controlled by the state? Yes.
Therefore Russian media is controlled by the state and Russia Today is controlled by the Russian state.

So why the surprise when the US State department requires foreign government controlled "workers" to register as a foreign agents?

Did you read New York Times and Citizens United decisions?
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Message 1945925 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 8:05:20 UTC

Another victim of brainwashing. :-(
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Message 1945934 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 11:54:50 UTC - in response to Message 1945933.  
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Actually he told New York Times that he "had a few doubts" about his choice of a holiday destination, but eventually decided to go for it.
"But I figured, Why not?" Wallace said :)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/22/business/media/chris-wallace-putin-interview-fox-news.html
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Message 1945951 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 13:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 1945924.  

You may recall that the US government has done with the TV channel Russia Today?

Remember you said all Russian media is controlled by the state.


I did not say that, I said that in any country the media is controlled by the state.

Is Russia Today, Russian? Yes.
Is Russia Today, media? Yes.
Is Russia a state? Yes.
Is media controlled by the state? Yes.
Therefore Russian media is controlled by the state and Russia Today is controlled by the Russian state.

So why the surprise when the US State department requires foreign government controlled "workers" to register as a foreign agents?

Did you read New York Times and Citizens United decisions?


Then why are you hysterical, if the Russian government calls organizations financed abroad, by foreign agents and cancels accreditation?

Didn't read again ... "One of Russia’s best-known graduate schools, created to avoid a brain drain among top academics in the newly open Russia of the 1990s, has lost its state accreditation, amid fears of a wider clampdown on educational institutions with strong Western connections."
Russian money, Russian organization. Not Russian boot lick thought process being taught.

Did you read New York Times and Citizens United decisions?


No, I have not. This decision, what has changed?

The Democratic Party has to say, this is revenge for Trump's election.

Since New York Times vs US was decided when Richard Nixon was president, nothing has changed recently, but you should read it as you think the USA controls media ...
Since Citizens United vs FEC was decided when Geroge Bush was president, nothing has changed recently, but you should read it as you think the USA controls companies ...
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Message 1945960 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 14:31:49 UTC - in response to Message 1945957.  

I ask you to answer the question.
Which TV channel in the US supported Trump in the election?
What experts and political scientists supported Trump's opinion?
That's really interesting.
You will find answers to that reading Trump's twitter:)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
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Message 1945966 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 15:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 1945957.  

I ask you to answer the question.
Which TV channel in the US supported Trump in the election?
What experts and political scientists supported Trump's opinion?
That's really interesting.

TV = Russia Today and Rupert Murdoch's opinion a/k/a Faux news.
Experts = 0, so called experts a/k/a paid shills, some.
political scientists = possibly some very unknown ones
political commentators, several. Commentators have no political science degree and make their money by click bait selling advertising.
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Message 1945971 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 16:04:59 UTC - in response to Message 1945969.  

At the elections in Russia all candidates were given time on federal channels and this is not just a debate. They had solitary performances and advertising (promotion). These are honest elections
Honest Vlad - The people's friend
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Message 1945977 - Posted: 23 Jul 2018, 16:35:48 UTC - in response to Message 1945975.  

Garbage, nothing but.

This destroyed Clinton
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