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moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Russian troops are located 1,500 km from the Finnish border, do you think this is close? That's not true. And you ought to know it! Do you have a map of the Murmansk Oblast? Check out for instance the town Apatity. Former Gulag place. But Russia has Russian troops closer than that to Finland. And the place is called what? |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19557 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
And the exercise Zapad in Sept 2017 near Finland's border? What was that all about? I don't think Finland is a threat to Russia. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
And the exercise Zapad in Sept 2017 near Finland's border?Me neither. But the Finnish exercise near Vasa this spring at the very WEST of Finland was a HUGE threat to Russia according to Kremlin. Geez! |
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Some Russians are just like some Yanks and all that they want to do is blow or shoot things up. :-( Maybe, if the rest of us get lucky, they'll just blow/shoot themselves up with their own stupidity. ;-) The world does not have room for stupid barbarians these days. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Russian troops are located 1,500 km from the Finnish border, do you think this is close?I just checked how far Russian troops are from Sweden. Pskov hometown of VDV to Stockholm. 750 km Kaliningrad hometown of nuclear missiles to Karlskrona 350 km. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
So you wouldn't be afraid of nuclear weapons only 350 km from your hometown? |
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Under the agreement of China and Russia, all troops are withdrawn from the border by 100 km and this is considered acceptable. 100 km at 100km/hr is one hour away. Tanks might take two hours. This is acceptable? To whom? Ask Seoul. Then Russia should not have issue with NATO base 100 km from border! If Russia has such an issue, then it had better base its own troops farther away. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
For example, the government of Sweden appealed to Russia with a proposal to withdraw troops to a safe distance?LOL:) Sweden have done that appeal to Russia many times. The answer is "What?". "We don't have any troops near your borders." "We never intrude your borders" "We dont have spies in Sweden" BLIN! We are not stupid! |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Perhaps near Samara.For example, the government of Sweden appealed to Russia with a proposal to withdraw troops to a safe distance?LOL:) Sorry, you gave me that:) |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
I live in a region where there are no large military formations, where there is no nuclear weapons, I have nothing to fear.So why are you afraid of NATO? NATO as a military force will not be interested in those that live in little villages. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
How far will NATO bases from Russian borders? As far I can tell it's only three Baltic countries that have NATO bases close to Russia. ![]() Ok. Around Kaliningrad that was occupied during WWII. Time to bring Köningsberg back to Germany? Ops. Forgot Norway above the Arctic Circle! Funny. The neighbors play "Highway to Hell" right know:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l482T0yNkeo |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Perhaps. If not the text was in Cyrillics. I only recognice "HATO" NATO maneuvers are aimed at preparing an attack on Russia? NATO is a defence army just like the Russian defence army. Right? |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19557 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Under the agreement of China and Russia, all troops are withdrawn from the border by 100 km and this is considered acceptable. Not necessarily. When I was at a NATO communications base in the Shetland Isles we were told, from the debriefing notes of a Russian defector that our base would be attacked by submarine based troops about an hour before any war started. We were less than a km from the coast on both sides. Russia wanted the communications links broken to stop warnings from Norway and before their aircraft and missiles entered UK airspace. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19557 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Perhaps. If not the text was in Cyrillics. Take a look at the transport links between Germany and anywhere on the Russian border and you will see it is impossible for NATO to perform a surprise invasion, and re-supply any such invasion. NATO cannot get its forces into position within 17 days never mind seize Russia. NATO doesn't conduct offensive maneuvers, it performs very limited defense exercises with small countries that border Russia. |
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It is always interesting to see how a foe thinks it should be attacked. It frequently exposes weakness that the spies didn't know existed. |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19557 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
What a load of BS. As I said NATO cannot get its ground troops anywhere near Russia in your time frame. You need boots on the ground to enforce and seizure and the supply lines to support it. It is all just propaganda that is been fed to you by Putin to keep you in a state of fear. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
In the image I posted, all actions of NATO are painted in days, hours and minutes. Who does what.For someone who fears nothing or NATO, your fear is palpable. :-) |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
But that's nonsense.Perhaps. If not the text was in Cyrillics. NATO has no plans to seize Russia. Perhaps you are mistaken how well NATO can protect NATO members in case of invasion of a country according to Article five. Then it makes more sense. At very least for the Baltic states when Russia invades in less then three weeks despite the help of NATO. I keep hearing that we in the Nordic are Russophobic. Heck. Russia is Paranoic! |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Of course. It's obviuos.In the image I posted, all actions of NATO are painted in days, hours and minutes. Who does what.For someone who fears nothing or NATO, your fear is palpable. :-) That's why you prepare for war. Big time! You have shown it to us with that RT video clip. |
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