Russia in the 21st Century #2

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musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2442 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0	Message 1945217 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 21:28:54 UTC Last modified: 18 Jul 2018, 21:33:14 UTC Always sometimes a bit of Ideologies around, except for sometimes a bit of friendship as well. Civil war was being mentioned a little down here, and it could next happen everywhere for that of nations, as well as also its respective people, except for also sometimes competition being around as well. ID: 1945217 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31186 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1945223 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 21:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 1945215. It's funny when these people talk about democracy extremely since America is a republic ID: 1945223 · Reply Quote

moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0	Message 1945225 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 21:57:06 UTC - in response to Message 1945215. Last modified: 18 Jul 2018, 22:05:10 UTC I am fully confident that the US, Russia, China, Europe and other countries are run by small groups of people. They are financial-political groups or elite. When did the elite change in your country? There are no elections, only a performance. There is no change of power. The only (real) change of power is a revolution. In the US, power has not changed for 250 years. It's funny when these people talk about democracy)))) Change of elite, there is a real change of power. Electing presidents or other authorities is a superficial change of head. They unscrewed one head, fastened the other head. Changing elites to other elites? Yes. Revolutions often do that. Like Russia who did that only about 100 years ago. Oh. Yesterday was the day when the Russian Tsar family and servants was killed hundred years ago... Anyway, the revolution only resultated that wealth moved to other elites. Actually some wealth did go to the public but... How fun is that if you are not part of an elite? ID: 1945225 · Reply Quote

moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0	Message 1945233 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 22:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 1945229. Last modified: 18 Jul 2018, 22:39:54 UTC There are already separatist movements in North America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America Are there any in Russia? Opa:) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe#Russia People: Karelian Proposed state: Karelia or unification with Finland. I know one person from West Karelia. Kaino is his name and and he squat like a true Slav:) Squating explained. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-8gsWZqDBM ID: 1945233 · Reply Quote

moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0	Message 1945556 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 13:14:53 UTC - in response to Message 1945406. Yes. Russia really need all these weapons to defend yourself from neighboring countries like Sweden and Finland. https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-says-modernized-russia-missiles-bombers-deploy-this-year-sochi-yars-icbm/29229178.html As Putin says! "Ð”Ð°Ð²Ð°Ð¹Ñ‚Ðµ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸ÑÑ‚ÑƒÐ¿Ð¸Ð¼ Ðº Ñ€Ð°Ð±Ð¾Ñ‚Ðµ." http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/57477 ID: 1945556 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945564 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 15:23:13 UTC - in response to Message 1945406. Just more propaganda ID: 1945564 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31186 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1945576 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 16:16:37 UTC - in response to Message 1945567. they will be destroyed in case of a threat. Sounds like mere existence is a threat. Sounds like Mother Russia is going to take over the world. Is this Germany in the 1930's? ID: 1945576 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945577 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 16:24:12 UTC - in response to Message 1945576. Well they can always rely on Order No 227 to ensure they fight. ID: 1945577 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945582 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 16:58:28 UTC - in response to Message 1945579. Why are you deploying NATO bases near the borders with Russia? Ask that of the countries that border you. The simplest answer is always the best one - They don't trust you. :-) ID: 1945582 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945584 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 17:18:50 UTC - in response to Message 1945583. No one can answer the question, why should Russia attack Europe? Georgia Ukraine Are just 2 examples. ID: 1945584 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945586 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 17:30:45 UTC - in response to Message 1945585. So this never happened then? By 1 August 2008, (Russian backed)South Ossetian separatists began shelling Georgian villages. ID: 1945586 · Reply Quote

Mr. Kevvy Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3841 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319	Message 1945587 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 17:31:30 UTC - in response to Message 1945585. Last modified: 20 Jul 2018, 17:32:44 UTC Yup, all those Russian troops in Crimea were just on vacation. So, those aren't NATO bases, they are just travel agencies, in case there is a sudden, unexplained mass decision of Russian troops to go on vacation in a NATO country. They will offer alternate travel and vacation arrangements. Anything contrary is just propaganda. ID: 1945587 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945599 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 18:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 1945596. Another aspect of "creeping annexation" was the fact that the separatist governments and security forces were manned by Russian officials. ID: 1945599 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945610 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 19:20:09 UTC - in response to Message 1945603. Another aspect of "creeping annexation" was the fact that the separatist governments and security forces were manned by Russian officials. Not officials, but advisors. Get it right Vadim. That quote came from your report. :-) Are you now saying that it is not quite correct? ID: 1945610 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945614 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 19:41:28 UTC - in response to Message 1945611. I did not read this report, I gave a link to the quote I posted. Read this rapport, can you find out what's new ... Hmmm...... ID: 1945614 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31186 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1945616 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 19:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 1945583. Why are you deploying NATO bases near the borders with Russia? Ask that of the countries that border you. The simplest answer is always the best one - They don't trust you. :-) And we do not trust you, this is called confrontation, when no one trusts anyone. We believe that NATO bases are being created to attack Russia. NATO bases were the first to approach Russia's borders, when Russia not only could not attack, but could not defend itself. Why did the NATO bases then appear near Russia? You should ask yourself why countries who do not want to be under the yoke of the USA feel the need to have NATO bases built? ID: 1945616 · Reply Quote

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1945620 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 20:12:07 UTC - in response to Message 1945615. What surprises? Can be read quickly You can read slowly You can read thoughtfully In Russia they read differently. I ran my eyes through the text, which means reading very quickly. ...which is how "Officials" became "Advisors"? ID: 1945620 · Reply Quote

moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0	Message 1945628 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:01:46 UTC - in response to Message 1945567. Yes. Russia really need all these weapons to defend yourself from neighboring countries like Sweden and Finland. https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-says-modernized-russia-missiles-bombers-deploy-this-year-sochi-yars-icbm/29229178.html As Putin says! "Ð”Ð°Ð²Ð°Ð¹Ñ‚Ðµ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸ÑÑ‚ÑƒÐ¿Ð¸Ð¼ Ðº Ñ€Ð°Ð±Ð¾Ñ‚Ðµ." http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/57477 I'm tired of telling you that you do not need anyone. Why attack you? Missiles will fly in only one case, if there are NATO bases on your territory, they will be destroyed in case of a threat. Why attack us? Ask Kremlin that when we are not even members of NATO. Russia deploy massive military so called "defensive" weapons VERY close to our Swedish and Finnish borders. Even doing exercices in the Baltic Sea VERY close to us! And yes, even sometimes in our territories. We are VERY tired of the Russian threats to us! ID: 1945628 · Reply Quote

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31186 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1945632 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:12:25 UTC - in response to Message 1945617. Why are you deploying NATO bases near the borders with Russia? Ask that of the countries that border you. The simplest answer is always the best one - They don't trust you. :-) And we do not trust you, this is called confrontation, when no one trusts anyone. We believe that NATO bases are being created to attack Russia. NATO bases were the first to approach Russia's borders, when Russia not only could not attack, but could not defend itself. Why did the NATO bases then appear near Russia? You should ask yourself why countries who do not want to be under the yoke of the USA feel the need to have NATO bases built? Maybe money? Perhaps lobbying? Is corruption possible? This is not necessarily a threat Russia, it can be propaganda for the population. Money, no Lobbying, no Corruption, doubtful Russia not understanding how what it does is perceived by others? ID: 1945632 · Reply Quote

moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0	Message 1945634 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:21:35 UTC Speaking of the devil. Sputnik News of course! Russian intelligence officers have raided the offices of two missile development facilities of the Roscosmos Corporation in search of the person who leaked classified information on hypersonic missiles to Western intelligence agencies. https://sputniknews.com/russia/201807201066557416-Russia-Hunting-Leaker-Hypersonic-Missile/ ID: 1945634 · Reply Quote

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