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Message 1945063 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:08:42 UTC - in response to Message 1945044.  

В современном русском языке слово «негр» никогда не являлось стилистически отрицательно окрашенным; такое положение сохраняется и по сей день. В то же время, пришедшее из США слово «ниггер» (англ. nigger) употребляется в его оригинальном значении — как оскорбительное наименование чернокожего. По аналогии с политкорректным «афроамериканцы» в СМИ появился неологизм «афророссияне». Антропологический термин негрито́с в просторечии используется как шутливое либо пренебрежительное, а слово «черномазый» — как оскорбительное.


For example, Russians are called Muscovites
Ukrainians called hohlam
of Belarusians called bulbashi (potato in Belarusian)

This is a historical nickname, no one is offended. I like, for example, Ukrainian women call hohlushki.

In Russia, people were not humiliated, as slave owners did. In Russia there was no slavery.

The reason there was little slavery in Russia is because the majority of the population were serfs. Serfdom in Russia and Slavery in the US ended within 10 years of each other.

Synonyms of Slave in English dictionaries will include Serf.
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Message 1945065 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 1945063.  
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Synonyms of Slave in English dictionaries will include Serf.
Not quite.
The word Slave comes from the latin word Sclaveni.
And I'm sorry to say that the Vikings brought many slaves from Russia at the time.
And so did the Ottoman Empire.
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Message 1945067 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 1945065.  

Synonyms of Slave in English dictionaries will include Serf.
Not quite.
The word Slave comes from the latin word Esclaves.
And I'm sorry to say that the Vikings brought many slaves from Russia at the time.
And so did the Ottoman Empire.

Then tell me what is the difference between a serf and a slave.
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Message 1945070 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:25:59 UTC - in response to Message 1945067.  
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A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.
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Message 1945072 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 1945068.  

В современном русском языке слово «негр» никогда не являлось стилистически отрицательно окрашенным; такое положение сохраняется и по сей день. В то же время, пришедшее из США слово «ниггер» (англ. nigger) употребляется в его оригинальном значении — как оскорбительное наименование чернокожего. По аналогии с политкорректным «афроамериканцы» в СМИ появился неологизм «афророссияне». Антропологический термин негрито́с в просторечии используется как шутливое либо пренебрежительное, а слово «черномазый» — как оскорбительное.


For example, Russians are called Muscovites
Ukrainians called hohlam
of Belarusians called bulbashi (potato in Belarusian)

This is a historical nickname, no one is offended. I like, for example, Ukrainian women call hohlushki.

In Russia, people were not humiliated, as slave owners did. In Russia there was no slavery.

The reason there was little slavery in Russia is because the majority of the population were serfs. Serfdom in Russia and Slavery in the US ended within 10 years of each other.

Synonyms of Slave in English dictionaries will include Serf.


You can be completely tell the story, why abolished serfdom (feudal) law in Europe earlier than in Russia? What was the reason for this?

Serfdom died out in Europe because of the Black Death which caused a shortage of labour. This gave the lower classes much more power, because they were able to ask for an improvement in living standards or they just left to take up employment in another place. In England when the Aristocracy tried to enforce their assumed powers we had the Peasants Revolt.
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Message 1945074 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:32:45 UTC - in response to Message 1945070.  

A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.

And the punishment for a serf or slave who refused to work or ran away was?
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Message 1945077 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:39:33 UTC - in response to Message 1945074.  

A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.
And the punishment for a serf or slave who refused to work or ran away was?
That would mean death!
btw Here we also called slaves "Trälar", in English "Thralls".
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Message 1945079 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 1945077.  

A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.
And the punishment for a serf or slave who refused to work or ran away was?
That would mean death!
btw Here we also called slaves "Trälar", in English "Thralls".

So Serfs live in there home country while slaves are transported from another country, but in reality their lives are very similar. They are property and the owner can do whatever he wishes with his property.
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Message 1945084 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 4:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 1945063.  

В современном русском языке слово «негр» никогда не являлось стилистически отрицательно окрашенным; такое положение сохраняется и по сей день. В то же время, пришедшее из США слово «ниггер» (англ. nigger) употребляется в его оригинальном значении — как оскорбительное наименование чернокожего. По аналогии с политкорректным «афроамериканцы» в СМИ появился неологизм «афророссияне». Антропологический термин негрито́с в просторечии используется как шутливое либо пренебрежительное, а слово «черномазый» — как оскорбительное.


For example, Russians are called Muscovites
Ukrainians called hohlam
of Belarusians called bulbashi (potato in Belarusian)

This is a historical nickname, no one is offended. I like, for example, Ukrainian women call hohlushki.

In Russia, people were not humiliated, as slave owners did. In Russia there was no slavery.

The reason there was little slavery in Russia is because the majority of the population were serfs. Serfdom in Russia and Slavery in the US ended within 10 years of each other.

Synonyms of Slave in English dictionaries will include Serf.

they do -- American English Thesaurus entry:
slave
noun
1 the work was done by slaves: historical serf, vassal, thrall; archaic bondsman, bondswoman. ANTONYMS freeman, master.
2 Anna was his willing slave: drudge, servant, lackey, minion; informal gofer.
3 a fashion slave: devotee, worshiper, adherent; fan, lover, aficionado; informal fanatic, freak, nut, addict.
verb
slaving away for a pittance: toil, labor, grind away, sweat, work one's fingers to the bone, work like a Trojan/dog; informal kill oneself, sweat blood, slog away; literary travail; archaic drudge, moil.
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Message 1945094 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 4:20:21 UTC - in response to Message 1945083.  
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A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.
And the punishment for a serf or slave who refused to work or ran away was?
That would mean death!
btw Here we also called slaves "Trälar", in English "Thralls".

So Serfs live in there home country while slaves are transported from another country, but in reality their lives are very similar. They are property and the owner can do whatever he wishes with his property.


I fully admit that in England there could be serfs as slaves, but not in Russia.

I think you need to study a little of your history prior to Tsar Alexander I, who eased some of the restrictions on the lower classes, fearing that there would be an uprising similar to the French Revolution. Serfdom was finally abolished by Tsar Alexander II in 1861.

Only country of origin separates the definition of Slave or Serf.
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Message 1945097 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 4:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 1945079.  

A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.
And the punishment for a serf or slave who refused to work or ran away was?
That would mean death!
btw Here we also called slaves "Trälar", in English "Thralls".

So Serfs live in there home country while slaves are transported from another country, but in reality their lives are very similar. They are property and the owner can do whatever he wishes with his property.
I correct myself.
A serf would perish. A slave would be killed.
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Message 1945098 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 4:36:34 UTC - in response to Message 1945097.  
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A slave could be brought from their home and forced to serve people in the homes of the slavekeeper.
And the punishment for a serf or slave who refused to work or ran away was?
That would mean death!
btw Here we also called slaves "Trälar", in English "Thralls".

So Serfs live in there home country while slaves are transported from another country, but in reality their lives are very similar. They are property and the owner can do whatever he wishes with his property.
I correct myself.
A serf would perish. A slave would be killed.

Not always in the Slack Code in the US the punishment for runaways
Any slave who evaded capture for 20 days or more was to be publicly whipped for the first offense; branded with an "R" on the right cheek on the second offense; lose one ear if absent for thirty days on the third offense, and castrated on the fourth offense.
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Message 1945142 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 12:12:09 UTC
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Opa:)
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1019389905020051456
#Russia's state TV host:
"It is very bizarre, you can't bash your own country like that - especially when you're the President."
Female host: "When Trump says our relations are bad because of American foolishness and stupidity, he really smells like an agent of the Kremlin."

https://youtu.be/wmgHe3feoPk?t=2842
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Message 1945165 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 15:33:13 UTC - in response to Message 1945059.  
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In Africa, too, there are interesting cultures, for example Dagon.
Wikipedia has a Dogon entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people. Could that be who you mean? Much of Africa's problems stem from the fact that the borders that were drawn up by white men, took little or no notice of the complexities of the cultures it affected, and that for a continent that had some of the best and most well-defined natural boundaries - fences were a terrible introduction, and they remain so today.

edit: in my opinion anyway :)
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Message 1945167 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 15:55:01 UTC - in response to Message 1945057.  

OK. you have been advocating the tyranny of the majority, I find that to be very oppressive, you think it's just fine.


Do you advocate the tyranny of a minority?

Why do you ask? I have not advocated anything in this forum.
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Message 1945193 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 19:38:51 UTC - in response to Message 1945192.  
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I have an opinion and that is I am opposed to all tyranny and that does include the tyranny of the majority which you have advocated.
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Message 1945199 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 20:01:46 UTC - in response to Message 1945196.  

The majority does not have the right to make decisions?

Not all decisions such as they did in Nazi Germany.
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Message 1945207 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 20:31:14 UTC - in response to Message 1945196.  

I have an opinion and that is I am opposed to all tyranny and that does include the tyranny of the majority which you have advocated.


The majority does not have the right to make decisions?
Are you against democracy?

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
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Message 1945209 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 20:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 1945165.  

In Africa, too, there are interesting cultures, for example Dagon.
Wikipedia has a Dogon entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people. Could that be who you mean? Much of Africa's problems stem from the fact that the borders that were drawn up by white men, took little or no notice of the complexities of the cultures it affected, and that for a continent that had some of the best and most well-defined natural boundaries - fences were a terrible introduction, and they remain so today.

edit: in my opinion anyway :)

And mine.
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Message 1945211 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 20:45:51 UTC - in response to Message 1945207.  

I have an opinion and that is I am opposed to all tyranny and that does include the tyranny of the majority which you have advocated.
The majority does not have the right to make decisions?
Are you against democracy?

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
“Every age that has historical status is governed by aristocracies.
Aristocracy with the meaning - the best are ruling.
Peoples do never govern themselves. That lunacy was concocted by liberalism. Behind its "people's sovereignty" the slyest cheaters are hiding, who don't want to be recognized.”
― Joseph Goebbels
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