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Message 1945637 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:27:57 UTC - in response to Message 1945633.  

Russian troops are located 1,500 km from the Finnish border, do you think this is close?

That's not true. And you ought to know it!
Do you have a map of the Murmansk Oblast?
Check out for instance the town Apatity.
Former Gulag place. But Russia has Russian troops closer than that to Finland.
And the place is called what?
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Message 1945638 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:29:11 UTC - in response to Message 1945633.  

And the exercise Zapad in Sept 2017 near Finland's border?
What was that all about?
I don't think Finland is a threat to Russia.
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Message 1945640 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 1945638.  

And the exercise Zapad in Sept 2017 near Finland's border?
What was that all about?
I don't think Finland is a threat to Russia.
Me neither.
But the Finnish exercise near Vasa this spring at the very WEST of Finland was a HUGE threat to Russia according to Kremlin.
Geez!
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Message 1945642 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 21:47:15 UTC

Some Russians are just like some Yanks and all that they want to do is blow or shoot things up. :-(

Maybe, if the rest of us get lucky, they'll just blow/shoot themselves up with their own stupidity. ;-)

The world does not have room for stupid barbarians these days.
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Message 1945646 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 22:24:12 UTC - in response to Message 1945633.  

Russian troops are located 1,500 km from the Finnish border, do you think this is close?
You have heard the saying: "Fear has big eyes." NATO troops are really on the border with Russia.
I just checked how far Russian troops are from Sweden.
Pskov hometown of VDV to Stockholm. 750 km
Kaliningrad hometown of nuclear missiles to Karlskrona 350 km.
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Message 1945650 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 22:43:27 UTC - in response to Message 1945647.  

So you wouldn't be afraid of nuclear weapons only 350 km from your hometown?
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Message 1945653 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 23:01:09 UTC

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Message 1945654 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 23:03:02 UTC - in response to Message 1945647.  

Under the agreement of China and Russia, all troops are withdrawn from the border by 100 km and this is considered acceptable.

100 km at 100km/hr is one hour away. Tanks might take two hours. This is acceptable? To whom? Ask Seoul.

Then Russia should not have issue with NATO base 100 km from border! If Russia has such an issue, then it had better base its own troops farther away.
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Message 1945655 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 23:09:25 UTC - in response to Message 1945652.  

For example, the government of Sweden appealed to Russia with a proposal to withdraw troops to a safe distance?
Your government wants to agree, not just afraid?
LOL:)
Sweden have done that appeal to Russia many times.
The answer is "What?".
"We don't have any troops near your borders."
"We never intrude your borders"
"We dont have spies in Sweden"
BLIN! We are not stupid!
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Message 1945658 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 23:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1945657.  

For example, the government of Sweden appealed to Russia with a proposal to withdraw troops to a safe distance?
Your government wants to agree, not just afraid?
LOL:)
Sweden have done that appeal to Russia many times.
The answer is "What?".
"We don't have any troops near your borders."
"We never intrude your borders"
"We dont have spies in Sweden"
BLIN! We are not stupid!

I'll ask another question, what distance should it be from the border where the Russian troops are, that you would not be afraid?
Perhaps near Samara.
Sorry, you gave me that:)
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Message 1945662 - Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 23:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 1945652.  

I live in a region where there are no large military formations, where there is no nuclear weapons, I have nothing to fear.
So why are you afraid of NATO? NATO as a military force will not be interested in those that live in little villages.
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Message 1945664 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:05:18 UTC - in response to Message 1945660.  
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How far will NATO bases from Russian borders?

As far I can tell it's only three Baltic countries that have NATO bases close to Russia.
In fact, there aren't that many NATO bases close to Russia.
Ok. Around Kaliningrad that was occupied during WWII.
Time to bring Köningsberg back to Germany?

Ops. Forgot Norway above the Arctic Circle!

Funny. The neighbors play "Highway to Hell" right know:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l482T0yNkeo
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Message 1945670 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:27:50 UTC - in response to Message 1945667.  
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Perhaps. If not the text was in Cyrillics.
I only recognice "HATO"

NATO maneuvers are aimed at preparing an attack on Russia?
NATO is a defence army just like the Russian defence army.
Right?
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Message 1945671 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:34:50 UTC - in response to Message 1945656.  

Under the agreement of China and Russia, all troops are withdrawn from the border by 100 km and this is considered acceptable.

100 km at 100km/hr is one hour away. Tanks might take two hours. This is acceptable? To whom? Ask Seoul.

Then Russia should not have issue with NATO base 100 km from border! If Russia has such an issue, then it had better base its own troops farther away.


The war does not begin with tanks. The war begins with aircraft and missiles. Remember how the US troops bombed Iraq and Afghanistan.

100 km is a symbolic distance, which is confirmed by the treaty of peace and friendship. It is acceptable.

Not necessarily. When I was at a NATO communications base in the Shetland Isles we were told, from the debriefing notes of a Russian defector that our base would be attacked by submarine based troops about an hour before any war started. We were less than a km from the coast on both sides. Russia wanted the communications links broken to stop warnings from Norway and before their aircraft and missiles entered UK airspace.
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Message 1945674 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 1945672.  
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Perhaps. If not the text was in Cyrillics.
I only recognice "HATO"

NATO maneuvers are aimed at preparing an attack on Russia?
NATO is a defence army just like the Russian defence army.
Right?


The whole operation of NATO is scheduled by day, all the groups of troops on the border are described. The operation to seize Russia lasts 17 days.

This is reality, not propaganda.
All maneuvers can be checked and the location of the troops, everything is checked.

why does NATO conduct offensive maneuvers?

Take a look at the transport links between Germany and anywhere on the Russian border and you will see it is impossible for NATO to perform a surprise invasion, and re-supply any such invasion. NATO cannot get its forces into position within 17 days never mind seize Russia.

NATO doesn't conduct offensive maneuvers, it performs very limited defense exercises with small countries that border Russia.
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Message 1945676 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:44:20 UTC - in response to Message 1945672.  

It is always interesting to see how a foe thinks it should be attacked. It frequently exposes weakness that the spies didn't know existed.
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Message 1945679 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:55:33 UTC - in response to Message 1945677.  
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What a load of BS. As I said NATO cannot get its ground troops anywhere near Russia in your time frame. You need boots on the ground to enforce and seizure and the supply lines to support it.

It is all just propaganda that is been fed to you by Putin to keep you in a state of fear.
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Message 1945680 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 1945677.  

In the image I posted, all actions of NATO are painted in days, hours and minutes. Who does what.

The invasion will begin after a massive missile strike, the United States has developed a system of "Rapid Global Impact."
For someone who fears nothing or NATO, your fear is palpable. :-)
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Message 1945681 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 0:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 1945672.  
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Perhaps. If not the text was in Cyrillics.
I only recognice "HATO"
NATO maneuvers are aimed at preparing an attack on Russia?
NATO is a defence army just like the Russian defence army.
Right?

The whole operation of NATO is scheduled by day, all the groups of troops on the border are described. The operation to seize Russia lasts 17 days.
This is reality, not propaganda.
All maneuvers can be checked and the location of the troops, everything is checked.
why does NATO conduct offensive maneuvers?
But that's nonsense.
NATO has no plans to seize Russia.
Perhaps you are mistaken how well NATO can protect NATO members in case of invasion of a country according to Article five.
Then it makes more sense.
At very least for the Baltic states when Russia invades in less then three weeks despite the help of NATO.

I keep hearing that we in the Nordic are Russophobic.
Heck. Russia is Paranoic!
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Message 1945686 - Posted: 21 Jul 2018, 1:16:22 UTC - in response to Message 1945684.  

In the image I posted, all actions of NATO are painted in days, hours and minutes. Who does what.
The invasion will begin after a massive missile strike, the United States has developed a system of "Rapid Global Impact."
For someone who fears nothing or NATO, your fear is palpable. :-)

I repeat, Russia is not afraid of NATO, Russia is afraid of war.
Maybe the meaning is not clear?
Of course. It's obviuos.
That's why you prepare for war.
Big time!
You have shown it to us with that RT video clip.
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