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Ludwig Sasha Joseph Anthony Send message Joined: 28 Nov 16 Posts: 3 Credit: 224,945 RAC: 0 |
No connection after updating Mac High Sierra.... Boing Manager for iOS needs update? |
Schmeily Send message Joined: 6 Dec 04 Posts: 225 Credit: 62,427,167 RAC: 12 |
When I read about the many problems I become thoughtful. It somehow reads everything like in the 90s, in the beginning. You got a lot of money. There should be something left for stability and better data management. It is also incomprehensible to me how every Tuesday the service can fail and maintenance is operated? Surely you have a lot of data, but we are writing the year 2017. Imagine, google does it every Wednesday, you can not search because there's maintenance going on. :-) ... And Google has, I think, much more data. This is not meant to be evil. That was a few thoughts ... Greetings Schmeily ---- WE WANT YOU ---- - Space Quest Website - |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13859 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
You got a lot of money. No they didn't. You're thinking of a different project, not Seti@home. It is also incomprehensible to me how every Tuesday the service can fail and maintenance is operated? It doesn't fail (usually). It is shut down so maintenance can be done. Imagine, google does it every Wednesday, you can not search because there's maintenance going on. :-) ... And Google has, I think, much more data. And it has 10s of thousands of employee's, and billions of Dollars. Seti has Eric, and a few thousand dollars. Grant Darwin NT |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22550 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
...and Google has multiple redundant servers, in mirrored arrays so can do continuous back-up and maintenance. SETI has one group of servers, which are not mirrored, and thus to do a backup or maintenance you need to stop users accessing the system during those activities. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11418 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
But something has changed. 5 years ago we never had all day outages just a couple of hours. Why the change? Methinks the size of the data base is a major factor. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
The forums are directly tied to the database for user accounts, posting history, credit statistics, history of results, and I'm sure other things. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14680 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Not so much the absolute raw size of the database (they can keep that under control, from week to week), but the greater fragmentation of both data and indexes because of the much higher turnover of tasks due to newer volunteer hardware.But something has changed. 5 years ago we never had all day outages just a couple of hours. Why the change?Methinks the size of the data base is a major factor. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11418 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
, but the greater fragmentation of both data and indexes because of the much higher turnover of tasks due to newer volunteer hardware. Couldn't SSDs address that as I understand it fragmentation is not a problem with them? |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
, but the greater fragmentation of both data and indexes because of the much higher turnover of tasks due to newer volunteer hardware. Richard isn't talking about filesystem fragmentation, which SSDs don't suffer performance losses as much (but filesystem fragmentation still happens on SSDs). Informix is a SQL database and fragmentation of any database is the bane of any DB Admin. It often requires constant massaging and manipulation to keep running at peak performance. |
Russell Houseman Send message Joined: 6 Jan 04 Posts: 4 Credit: 447,974 RAC: 0 |
Hi I have just noticed no new tasks are coming down and the splitters are off again on the status page, but havent seen any posts to say they would be off line as any planned works etc. Thanks Russell |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
As it was a Sunday a remote log in was tried to cure the problem but unfortunately that did not work so it will be looked when the staff get in today. In a couple of hours. |
Russell Houseman Send message Joined: 6 Jan 04 Posts: 4 Credit: 447,974 RAC: 0 |
cool no problem. Many thanks for the update. |
BoMbY Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8 Credit: 759,919 RAC: 0 |
As I'm already running out of GPU-WUs, while the BOINC client is set to 2 days - how many days do I have to set to actually get a whole day of WUs? What I'm saying: There is something very wrong with the time/WU estimate. It's giving me way too many WUs for slow devices, and way too few WUs for fast devices. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14680 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
As it was a Sunday a remote log in was tried to cure the problem but unfortunately that did not work so it will be looked when the staff get in today. In a couple of hours.Remembering that today is a Federal Public Holiday in the United States (where SETI is based), so "when staff get in" may be subject to variation and goodwill. Which there's usually plenty of. |
Kenneth S Fees Send message Joined: 24 Jul 00 Posts: 3 Credit: 75,284,716 RAC: 57 |
With merely a few million US dollars, say 100-200, the seti@home project could have staff and hardware to operate like a modern corporation. Sadly, I do not think the budget is anywhere near that. |
dahls Send message Joined: 24 Oct 04 Posts: 135 Credit: 178,942,502 RAC: 217 |
I hope the splitters will be started again soon... my house is getting cold due to no more work... |
sas3 Send message Joined: 10 Sep 99 Posts: 3 Credit: 19,223,706 RAC: 13 |
This is true for my bedroom I have no heat vent in my room and when I get no work unist it does get cold in here. |
Paul Send message Joined: 15 Sep 17 Posts: 4 Credit: 2,719,766 RAC: 2 |
Glad to hear that we'll be back up and running soon. Thanks for the update--some of us did notice. |
MagicEye Send message Joined: 19 Sep 99 Posts: 70 Credit: 40,327,877 RAC: 75 |
As I'm already running out of GPU-WUs, while the BOINC client is set to 2 days - how many days do I have to set to actually get a whole day of WUs? You get max. 100 WUs. For modern GPUs this work is done in a few hours. Even my old GTX970 needs only 3-4 minutes per WU. I think there is nothing wrong with the calculation. |
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