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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1944964 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:10:13 UTC Not looking good for RBK&C or the government. A "stay put" policy is based on the theory that buildings can be designed to prevent fire spreading, so a blaze in one flat should not be able to spread to another. But expert reports submitted to the inquiry suggest that, since 1974, major changes to Grenfell Tower destroyed that protection. TV images influenced policy change ID: 1944964 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1947035 - Posted: 30 Jul 2018, 20:49:17 UTC He said being told it was too dangerous to commit rescue crews above the 10th floor "was difficult for me to hear and I expressed my dissatisfaction". They didn't have those problems in Dubai ID: 1947035 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1947252 - Posted: 1 Aug 2018, 13:51:47 UTC This inquiry is bringing a lot of issues to light. Fire doors only 50% effective ID: 1947252 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31074 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1947294 - Posted: 1 Aug 2018, 16:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 1947252. This inquiry is bringing a lot of issues to light. Fire doors only 50% effective Profit, profit, profit or naked greed and the fiduciary duty? ID: 1947294 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1947299 - Posted: 1 Aug 2018, 17:20:43 UTC - in response to Message 1947294. Sadly, there is no other reasonable explanation. :-( ID: 1947299 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1951404 - Posted: 22 Aug 2018, 20:52:04 UTC Hmm, they keep permanent records of Births, Deaths & Marriages. Also of every contribution an individual makes towards their pension, but can't keep records of other important documents. The WRS was scrapped in 2011 and families have said it is impossible to obtain copies of the certificates as the records are no longer kept by the government. This is not the 1st instance of that this year. Doesn't bode well for the future. Just wondering about the "official" documentation of the council, government & companies involved in Grenfell. Not much news recently regarding Grenfell, but at least the inquiry itself has its own website. Grenfell inquiry home page ID: 1951404 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1952964 - Posted: 30 Aug 2018, 23:10:13 UTC WTF is wrong with some people? Unbelievable! ID: 1952964 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31074 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1952969 - Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 0:37:39 UTC - in response to Message 1952964. WTF is wrong with some people? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM Some folks are born silver spoon in hand, Lord don't they help themselves! ID: 1952969 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1956295 - Posted: 19 Sep 2018, 13:30:32 UTC Back to school Haunted Site's future Jailed 1 Jailed 2 ID: 1956295 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1957457 - Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:40:13 UTC Nothing could stop fire spreading No one should have lived there ID: 1957457 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14681 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 1957614 - Posted: 28 Sep 2018, 11:59:23 UTC Grenfell fraud council finance boss jailed for five-and-a-half years Hard to object to that - or even feel any sympathy. ID: 1957614 ·

W-K 666 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19455 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67	Message 1962504 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 3:32:51 UTC How can anyone say they never knew? Grenfell Tower: The fires that foretold the tragedy ID: 1962504 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11422 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66	Message 1962510 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 4:05:59 UTC - in response to Message 1962504. Why are you surprised? ID: 1962510 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31074 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1962515 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 4:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 1962510. Why are you surprised? Good question. ID: 1962515 ·

W-K 666 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19455 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67	Message 1962520 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 4:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1962510. Why are you surprised? My only surprise that there were so many similar incidents in the UK alone and that no one thought to change the regulations. ID: 1962520 ·

Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31074 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32	Message 1962528 - Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 5:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 1962520. Why are you surprised? My only surprise that there were so many similar incidents in the UK alone and that no one thought to change the regulations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andraus_Building https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joelma_Building The Summerland fire is the same era. US Building codes were changed. Some years later retrofit was required. Of course in the USA, it isn't the council that owns the buildings so there isn't a profit motive to not update the building codes. ID: 1962528 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1962885 - Posted: 1 Nov 2018, 21:45:09 UTC - in response to Message 1962504. How can anyone say they never knew? Grenfell Tower: The fires that foretold the tragedy Just finished watching the documentary (same title as the quoted report). It is available on the BBC iPlayer for the next 28 days. It does not make pleasant viewing. It is more than regulations that need changing/improving but the instant dismissal of anyone in authority that assumes that we are there to serve them. They are there to serve us! ID: 1962885 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1967754 - Posted: 29 Nov 2018, 17:39:50 UTC 10 minutes...to live or die ID: 1967754 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1969822 - Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 21:34:31 UTC LFB failed residents & firefighters ID: 1969822 ·

Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7	Message 1970008 - Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 15:50:08 UTC No evacuation policy for high rise buildings Well it is nigh on impossible to evacuate a 24 storey "aesthetically pleasing & energy efficient" crematorium in 10 minutes. ID: 1970008 ·

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