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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I don't know. Perhaps a suitable short to medium term solution might be to return 'drug' regulation to the States where it belongs (imo), and each State decide for itself whether or not to allow Marijuana use. The pot-heads could then move to a State that allows it, and the anti-pot-heads move to a State that does not. Problem solved. Everyone is happy.They will only be happy when the Feds pay to relocate them and make sure they have a job when they get there. I can actually see how this ends up a commerce clause and not a Tenth case. The fertilizer, grow lamp of something else used to grow the weed will have crossed state borders and the Feds will regulate. Commerce clause and our transport crazy society has nullified almost all of the Tenth. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
people who are fit to comment on the subject are aware of the language others feel they must have the last word or simply the matter enough for a wingnut to think they might understand |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Is what we have been instructed to stop. Suggested, not "instructed". |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3806 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
This is a classic case of "State's Rights". I find it extremely funny that a lot of the same people who are opposed to "State's Rights" in all/almost all other cases are very pro "State's Rights" when it comes to 'weed'. That would be because this is a situation where the states are permitting something that that the federal government is restricting, rather than vice versa, and in some cases contrary to the 14th amendment. As someone in favour of more liberty, this should be a given. Also, though many call marijuana 'safe', why then is it listed in the 'list' under California's Prop. 65 as 'causes cancer'? We already have a perfect model for this in existing legislation: tobacco, which is far stronger of a carcinogen (marijuana is also commonly vaped these days as well, which has not been demonstrated to have any second-hand cancer risks, and made into edibles which have zero by definition.) So smoking of marijuana should be permissible wherever smoking of tobacco is permitted ie in private residences, in open public areas where others are not being directly exposed, etc. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I believe the above problem is particular to the USA.Nope, but you know so little about the EU, just as you routinely accuse people from other countries about knowing so little about the USA. Case in point a OTC cold medication bought in Germany, very illegal in France - no border station. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Understand the difference?You don't understand the EU, nor it seems do you want to. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36804 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yawn. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The entire thought which you usually omit:Omitted because you fail to understand the EU and are now demonstrating that you wish to remain intentionally ignorant. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Yawn. What is wrong with commenting on the quality of a post? Oh, I get it your posts are above criticism. This must be an attack to be reported to Gordon because I used "Oh". |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36804 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yawn. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Gary... You posted that Germany and France are the same as two different States in the USA.No, that's the strawman you want to argue**. I did compare a citizen of the EU, who carries an EU passport for visiting other countries such as the USA crossing the paint stripe border from the now not sovereign France into the now not sovereign Germany, just as the States of the USA are not sovereign anymore. Perhaps you need to understand that word "sovereign."* Ask yourself about Brexit if they were sovereign. Ask yourself why Sirius has to decide if he wants to keep his EU passport or have a UK one. Also you should learn about the EU. It is very akin to the USA between Independence and the adoption of the current Constitution. *Sovereign noun: a supreme ruler adjective: 1 possessing supreme or ultimate power 2 acting or done independently and without outside interference **You want to make your argument like passing the border between the City of San Francisco and the County of San Francisco. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Sorry Mr. Kevvy. A simple response regarding different marijuana laws among our States started this. Started what? These are discussion forums so discussions often head in different directions, and perhaps you don't like the idea of the EU being compared to the USA but that is what the EU is trying to be, separate states not separate countries. One of the big things that I believe helped the Brexit vote was the fact that so may of our laws (UK) came from Brussels. Marijuana is I believe legal( to a degree) in Amsterdam, and apparently Spain is moving towards trying to legalise it. Wonder what will happen then to EU citizens travelling across countries? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
IE: " **You want to make your argument like passing the border between the City of San Francisco and the County of San Francisco." Selected on purpose as a very good belly laugh, which you have just provided everyone. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
As Bernie Vine posted:The belly laugh gets repeated and amplified. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
As Bernie Vine posted:The belly laugh gets repeated and amplified. I don't actually think he means me, and even if he did I wouldn't get too upset as others seem to. Life is too short to worry about what someone posts on an online forum. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Bernie Vine... As it relates to this Subject. I was wondering if you could answer the following question, which I have previously stated I have no true knowledge: Sorry no, I have no interest in playing your word games, I have better things to do on a Saturday night. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31010 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
As Bernie Vine posted:The belly laugh gets repeated and amplified. Or course I'm not laughing at you Bernie. I'm laughing at the gullibility of Clyde. I defy Clyde to cross the border between the City of San Francisco and the County of San Francisco. Absolutely a riot. Just like his word games. BTW can we get playing word games added to the items on the left, or does that fall under "No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people," |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36804 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yawn. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11416 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Oh, you're doing a good job by yourself. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36804 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Yep. |
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