Vice Magazine has posted an article about the potential closure of the Arecibo observatory.

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@SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon)

Vice Magazine has posted an article about the potential closure of the Arecibo observatory.

Good article. Hope it brings the issue the attention that it deserves and some additional funding sources. Maybe there's another Yuri out there somewhere.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

"Losing two thirds of the volume of the galaxy we can search" is pretty bad.

Is there any hope of cobbling together other radio telescopes to make up the difference if Arecibo does go off the air?

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

"Losing two thirds of the volume of the galaxy we can search" is pretty bad.

Is there any hope of cobbling together other radio telescopes to make up the difference if Arecibo does go off the air?

I think the answer to my question is in the other Arecibo thread. (Basically it's complicated and more expensive to operate with Arecibo's loss)

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

I think, should increase research investment, rather than the military input.

Not to close the observatory, but to increase more, we know too little about the universe

The United States of America, China is so

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As long as China is aggressive in the South China Sea US military spending will not decrease. Your country spends more, my country spends more and in both cases takes money from more worthwhile projects including science. I say what a waste.

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As long as China is aggressive in the South China Sea US military spending will not decrease. Your country spends more, my country spends more and in both cases takes money from more worthwhile projects including science. I say what a waste.

. . Sadly so very true ...

As long as China is aggressive in the South China Sea US military spending will not decrease. Your country spends more, my country spends more and in both cases takes money from more worthwhile projects including science. I say what a waste.

. . Sadly so very true ...

Question
Now case is:
U.S. aircraft carrier ran to the South China Sea, rather than the Chinese fleet to the west coast of the United states.

Think of the name of the South China Sea, why there is "China" in the inside, rather than Philippines.
Find some of history books and read about this area,You will know about the South China Sea from ancient to modern times.

For example:
A Man come from another city, take a gun, cross-border inter city road, come to this city ,wandering on the road,near the neighbor's home.

Do you think it is necessary for a neighbor to pick up a gun and prepare for self defense?

an empty hand or holding an goods, the neighbor still need to have a gun in self-defense? if do this ,the neighbor must be crazy!!!

if you is this neighbor what can you do?

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Regarding keeping the Arecibo Observatory funded, is there any crowdfunding setup to donate money for the radio telescope directly? Maybe we don't need one wealthy individual to help do this (although it wouldn't hurt), but thousands of citizens around the world to provide the funding. Very similar to BOINC projects except it is cash instead of cache that we would be donating to continue looking for signals from ET. I would love to be part of keeping the telescope going and I'm sure there are thousands like me around the world.

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Regarding keeping the Arecibo Observatory funded, is there any crowdfunding setup to donate money for the radio telescope directly? Maybe we don't need one wealthy individual to help do this (although it wouldn't hurt), but thousands of citizens around the world to provide the funding. Very similar to BOINC projects except it is cash instead of cache that we would be donating to continue looking for signals from ET. I would love to be part of keeping the telescope going and I'm sure there are thousands like me around the world.

算我一个.
需要一个公开的帐号。
Count me.
Need a open account

"IF" we ever establish communications with other Xeno-Civilizations, wouldn't be to our interest to identify them further away, than in orbit around our planet?

I can't understand the "less expensive" argument to the contrary,
In a mathematical sense, it seems we need as much forewarning as necessary.

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A Successful identification of a Xeno-Civilization will automatically lead to additional Military spending. Nature of the beast.

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I believe we are talking about Federal Funding of the Telescope. Once that ends we can discuss individual funding of the infrastructure and the people manning it.

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No. The telescope is a US Government property. Once funding for operations is cut-off, the telescope will be dismantled and the site restored to forest. There will be NO telescope or workers to operate it.

I believe we are talking about Federal Funding of the Telescope. Once that ends we can discuss individual funding of the infrastructure and the people manning it.

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Donald
Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired

Arecibo is the only planetary radar besides Goldstone capable of tracking Near Earth Objects potentially dangerous to Earth. Since NASA has the task of counting and monitoring NEOs I think NASA should maintain Arecibo in operation, maybe with a reduced program and budget.
Tullio

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Arecibo is the only planetary radar besides Goldstone capable of tracking Near Earth Objects potentially dangerous to Earth. Since NASA has the task of counting and monitoring NEOs I think NASA should maintain Arecibo in operation, maybe with a reduced program and budget.
Tullio

As I understand the program, the search for NEOs involves both optical and active radar searches. Not a good match for collecting data useful to Seti@Home or other such projects.

In the current US federal budget environment, I don't see such a transfer happening. I think Arecibo will either continue under current management with current budget levels, or it will be deemed obsolete and shut down/dismantled.

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Donald
Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired

QUOTO

What is the latest on the Square Kilometer Array? It seems to me that is much more suitable for SETI work anyway. Promising star system can be targeted at much longer range, and more suitable frequencies can be used, I think. But I don't know where it is in funding, or whether they would share data with SETI anyway.

I am not impressed by randomly scanning the sky and hoping something falls into our laps however. The distances are too great and the power levels too small for intelligent signals as compared to gas clouds, exploding stars, quasars, etc., etc.

The MeerKAT array in South Africa, which will be part of SKA has received its "first light". But I doubt it will be used for SETI.
Tullio

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The Murchison Wide Field Array in Australia will be used by the SETI Institute to search for ETI, but at a lower frequency than Arecibo and Green Bank, that is from 103 to 133 MHz. Its observing field covers many of the planets discovered by Kepler.
Tullio

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