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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Think you're asking the wrong person MK, it should have been directed at Mister Snark. However I'll answer it. No I don't because I don't think a simpleton can be xenophobic. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
2 interesting reports. Is the EU losing its way? Testing times for Europe's banks With Germany being such an economic powerhouse, what's with Deutsche Bank? NATO suspension? "EU officials have said the accession talks will be suspended immediately, if the Turkish government reintroduces the death penalty." So the clamping down of free speech doesn't matter then EU? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19138 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Maybe now people will understand why the UK, mostly outside London, voted for Brexit. Government spends six times more per person on transport in London than the North, new figures reveal New figures suggest the Government is spending more just on Crossrail in London than on all projects across the whole of northern England |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
At least keep up to date if you want to keep hitting the UK :-) it's just an upgrade/extension of...predating Brexit by 16 years |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19138 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Does any one really believe that Brexit via Article 50 will actually happen? Probably not, even if triggered and negotiations happen, it can be argued that a vote or referendum on the outcome will be needed for the proposed changes to happen. Can't see that happening before the next general election on 7th May 2020. That could turn out to be the real battle, with the result deciding either to Brexit or not. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Well since the Maastricht & Lisbon Treaties were ratified by parliament with no referendum for the people, those very same people saw how the EU were handling the global financial crisis & made matters worse for those within the Eurozone. So our politicians seeing the same thing, decided to give the people their say knowing full well (mistakenly as it seems) that they could continue in the same vein as the country wouldn't be foolish enough to say leave... ...oops! Now we can all sit back & watch those very same politicians bluff their way out of the biggest mess of their own creation! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19138 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Well since the Maastricht & Lisbon Treaties were ratified by parliament with no referendum for the people, those very same people saw how the EU were handling the global financial crisis & made matters worse for those within the Eurozone. But the referendum of 1975 was held to accept and confirm our joining in 1973 because of the fundamental constitutional changes required. If we leave, then will we not have to agree to the presumably reversal of those constitutional changes or whatever agreement they come up with. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
!975 was for the Social Chapter of the EEC which Britain joined in 1973 (without a referendum). Maastricht & Lisbon turned the EEC into the EU. Many of the Eurozone nations held referendums for those treaties. Did Britain? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19138 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Geoffrey Robertson, a lawyer who has been counsel in many landmark constitutional cases, added shortly after the referendum that “MPs have every right, and indeed a duty if they think it best for Britain, to vote to stay†in the EU. He said that Parliament must repeal the 1972 European Communities Act, by which it voted to take us into the EU, before Brexit can be triggered. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-article-50-owen-smith-labour-leadership-election-eu-referendum-uk-jeremy-corbyn-a7206876.html |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The government can trigger Brexit under Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, merely by sending a note to Brussels. And here is the note sending the clear message that Britain will Brexit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRlqmTKyQx0 Or perhaps "Yeah but, no but, yeah but..." is a more clearer message. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
& that's the 800 lb gorilla in the room. Makes one wonder why the referendum was held in the 1st place as Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is meaningless until the 1972 ECA is repealed. |
Mark Stevenson Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 |
Whatever they are going to do why don't they get f-ing on with it Life is what you make of it :-) When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
"Initially, Merkel had planned announce her intentions in spring 2016. But then came the refugee crisis and the ensuing bitter dispute with Seehofer and the CSU as to how best to confront the challenge." It seems that Germany has problems with their "immigration crisis" "Initially, Merkel had planned announce her intentions in spring 2016. At the time, the chancellor decided to delay her announcement until this fall. The dispute with Seehofer has not yet been adequately resolved and the Bavarian party is considering the possibility of nominating its own candidate for the Chancellery." It seems that German politicians also hold back on decisions until the time is right! Report |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hmmm... Cyprus Greece ... and now... Brexit ... be nice if the American "3 strikes & you're out" comes into play here. :-) Maybe Dave "Dyno-rod" Cameron working behind the scene. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The EU getting it's knickers in a twist? EU taking on Apple, Ireland & US Well, they have to justify their jobs for the next few years :-) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
BuzzFeed business editor Simon Neville tweets: Luckily, as UK is leaving the EU, we'll be able to have as many sweetheart tax deals with any multinational we want. Hurrah! It's the dark side of globalization. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37219665 Tax rise for Irish citizens soon? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hmm, not a good year for the EU :-) Irish Government to fight European Commission's ruling That's 3 EZ Nations telling them to "stick it up their jacksy's", only 25 to go :-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24882 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Sturgeon: Second independence referendum could be next year Oh dear Mr Snark definitely a fish out of water |
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