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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And really going wrong. It's called the National Debt. It should be ZERO. |
shizaru Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 1130 Credit: 1,967,904 RAC: 0 |
So it's more true than not that you can't trust "the media" to not be biased. But here's a handy trick: Scout out insiders you think you can trust. And these next two I've linked to before and consider them "100% guaranteed" atm. As much as humanly possible. Oh and remember, it's one thing to gather and take notice of the info anyone provides and another to take their predictions at heart. Educated guesses are still guesses. Nouriel Roubini The United Kingdom’s narrow vote to leave the European Union had specific British causes. And yet it is also the proverbial canary in the coalmine, signaling a broad populist/nationalist backlash – at least in advanced economies – against globalization, free trade, offshoring, labor migration, market-oriented policies, supranational authorities, and even technological change. All of these trends reduce wages and employment for low-skill workers in labor-scarce and capital-rich advanced economies, and raise them in labor-abundant emerging economies. Consumers in advanced economies benefit from the reduction in prices of traded goods; but low and even some medium-skill workers lose income as their equilibrium wages fall and their jobs are threatened. In the “Brexit†vote, the fault lines were clear: rich versus poor, gainers versus losers from trade/globalization, skilled versus unskilled, educated versus less educated, young versus old, urban versus rural, and diverse versus more homogenous communities. The same fault lines are appearing in other advanced economies, including the United States and continental Europe. Jeffrey D. Sachs The Brexit vote was a triple protest: against surging immigration, City of London bankers, and European Union institutions, in that order. It will have major consequences. Donald Trump’s campaign for the US presidency will receive a huge boost, as will other anti-immigrant populist politicians. Moreover, leaving the EU will wound the British economy, and could well push Scotland to leave the United Kingdom – to say nothing of Brexit’s ramifications for the future of European integration. Brexit is thus a watershed event that signals the need for a new kind of globalization, one that could be far superior to the status quo that was rejected at the British polls. --- https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/globalization-political-fault-lines-by-nouriel-roubini-2016-07 https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/meaning-of-brexit-by-jeffrey-d-sachs-2016-06 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Scout out insiders you think you can trust. I think most of us try. Good links Alex, and there are people who have insight and understanding in matters. I'm thinking of this. The Brexit vote was a triple protest: against surging immigration, City of London bankers, and European Union institutions, in that order. There are three kind of immigrations. 1. Refugees seeking asylum. 2. Non EU citizens seeking job and opportunities in the EU. 3. EU citizens seeking job and opportunities within the EU. Also called free movement. Theresa May said this Sunday that the future of EU citizens in the UK is not guaranteed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cfy9HuznCk Does she realise that the same will happen to UK citizen that have emigrated to EU countries? There will also be a Brain Drain in the UK and the effects of Brexit has already started. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-36719923 Artist Taxi Driver comment on that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVza_qju9OM |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Two English people arguing about the Brexit aftermath – a Londoner and a Geordie from Newcastle. "Listen, regarding Brexit," says the Londoner. "Whatever happened, happened. What's important now for England is that we remember the many things we actually agree on. (…) Just think about the many things that tie us together." https://youtu.be/kxfY3bNvlcU |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19091 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Two English people arguing about the Brexit aftermath – a Londoner and a Geordie from Newcastle. That wasn't a Londoner, that guy would have had to be the translator between a Geordie and a Cockney. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
That wasn't a Londoner, that guy would have had to be the translator between a Geordie and a Cockney. But how many people speak with a London dialect today like Michael Caine for instance? Anyway. It's look like the division between London and the rest of England has become bigger over time. My sister have lived in England for about 40 years. First in London then Liverpool the last 25. Now when she is visiting London again she feels like going abroad. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19091 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
That wasn't a Londoner, that guy would have had to be the translator between a Geordie and a Cockney. You are right, these days a Londoner speaks with a foreign accent. Only 45% of London's population is white British. How many of them were born in London or outside London, I don't know, but I do know because I have 2 family members living there. One born in Lancashire of Lancastrian stock, one in Leicestershire neither of her parents were from Leicestershire or London. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
You are right, these days a Londoner speaks with a foreign accent. Only 45% of London's population is white British. How many of them were born in London or outside London, I don't know, but I do know because I have 2 family members living there. One born in Lancashire of Lancastrian stock, one in Leicestershire neither of her parents were from Leicestershire or London. Funny you say foreign accent. Geordie, Scouse, Cornish and Yorkshire dialects and others are perhaps foreign:) And thats only England! There are those speaking those dialects in London but over time they start to speak with a London accent that is very neutral. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Forget Britain, Europe has a lot worse to worry about. "It is particularly disgraceful that some Central European leaders seem to take their cues from xenophobic populists in Germany." Is Merkel losing her grip Germany falters & France on it's own will never be able to maintain unity within the Eurozone. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Forget Britain, Europe has a lot worse to worry about. So now it's Merkel's fault that so many refugees are coming to Europe! Sigh... Ok. Let's build Fortress Europe and we will live happily ever after... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Forget Britain, Europe has a lot worse to worry about. If you kept up in the news in Europe, you will have found that it is Germans talking about Merkel's policy. That can be linked directly to Brexit. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
If you kept up in the news in Europe, you will have found that it is Germans talking about Merkel's policy. Yes it is Germans talking about Merkel's policy. Are anybody surprised? |
shizaru Send message Joined: 14 Jun 04 Posts: 1130 Credit: 1,967,904 RAC: 0 |
By the SPIEGEL Staff "Whether they are fans of Donald Trump, supporters of Brexit or Marine Le Pen voters in France, "angry voters" have one thing in common: They've been left in the dust by globalization."* http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-the-era-of-the-angry-voter-is-upon-us-a-1101438.html (Part one of two. Link to page 2 at the bottom of the article) |
cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3 |
Oliver Cromwell was once asked in despair by a rich man why the forest protected the poor. He said: 'That same forest protects you from them'... Rudgard Kipling noted after his time in the NWFP (North West Frontier Province of India - Now Pakistan) that 'fences make good neighbours'... Not sure that any of these ideas are true but if we love our humanity and want to make the world a better place we have to stand for everyone even if we have different cultural, social or political perspective. I note that there has been a strong increase in hate crime in Britain since the referendum. Shame on us. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
And rats keep abandoning the sinking ship: Cameron, Johnson, Farage... UKIP leadership: Paul Nuttall rules out bid to replace Nigel Farage It's the rats that remain on-board that are more dangerous. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Funny that you concentrate on such a little party while the rats feast on the carcass. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
...meanwhile, the rats continue to argue amongst themselves trying to decide who gets the most meat... "Meanwhile, the Sunday Times said some 20 MPs are ready to form a breakaway party if Mrs Leadsom is elected as leader over Home Secretary Theresa May, and reported that some of Mrs Leadsom's colleagues have called on her to stand down from the leadership race." "Black ops" against Leadsom Eagle ready to pounce Heal Labour? Good luck with that |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/08/brexit-causes-resurgence-in-pro-eu-leanings-across-continent Funny things polls... ...they said the Remain mob would win. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30687 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36758686 Berlin riot: 123 police injured in anti-gentrification protest |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19091 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Brexit: Letter saying EU referendum result ‘not legally binding’ signed by 1000 lawyers TO THE PRIME MINISTER AND ALL MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT |
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