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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Chris Grayling, leader of the House of Commons, has told BBC Radio 4: "We need a free trade agreement with the European Union, which allows us to control the flow of people into and out of the country." Ok, Ump. Snark.... You say that Brexit was 'xenophobic, racist nonsense'. Ok, what about tax policy? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/07/we-cannot-set-fair-taxes-as-long-as-britain-remains-in-the-eu/ John Redwood, MP for Wokingham wrote:
Sorry, but reasserting one's national sovereignty is NOT racist, xenophobic nonsense. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Well as you see the UK as full of xenophobic simpletons. And the rest of the EU is perfect, you should be glad to get rid of us. (Just don't look up xenophobia or racism for other EU countries.) |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Please do not tempt me to think any further about "good riddance". Well why not, it is what you seem to think we are saying. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
(Just don't look up xenophobia or racism for other EU countries.) Oh dear. I did:) This is 4 years ago but I doubt if it would be better now. https://www.vice.com/read/guide-to-european-racist-leagues |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Au revoir, English? Now French say the language has 'no legitimacy' and should be kicked out of Europe too after Brexit. http://www.thelocal.fr/20160627/french-want-english-ditched-as-eu-language Sigh... |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
But so far none other in the EU has gone this far as your distinguished nation. Please do not tempt me to think any further about "good riddance". There are many in Europe facing despair & disenfranchisement with the EU. Quiet a few are in the governments of European Countries. Are they also xenophobic simpletons? From your posts to date, you are either European or American, so tell us: - Which is it? European = 500,000,000 simpletons America = 300,000,000 simpletons Either way, Britain with its 63,000,000 is certainly not a patch on the others. As for racism? Compared to those others? Thanks for the best laugh of the day :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Good edit to put that zero in otherwise that would have shown what you really thought about the size of the UK! :) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
LOL, yes, spotted it in time. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That's always been true to a degree, but this time around, I'm not so sure. It's not Britain that will destroy the EU but 2 countries that caused Europe grief 4 times already. The spite & unwillingness to show diplomacy from both Germany & France will the EU's undoing. Many are failing to see, is that Britain is not Anti-Europe, but Anti-EU. "What makes this result, on the other hand, is, of course, a victory for democracy. The greatest strength of any country is the degree to which it is an open society and this vote showed that on that index we excel. The sovereign will of the British people is what has prevailed in producing this enormous geopolitical shift. So it's three cheers for democracy and for the 72.2% voter turnout rate." Report |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
If it was left to any of the 17,410,742, it would already be done. However, as shown worldwide, that's best left to those in power. So how about you cutting the crap & answer questions posed directly to you. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Looks like Boris "Bojo" will take over the helm. In a column in The Telegraph, he argues that there are no differences to speak of the day the withdrawal is to be realized. And it is, moreover, not in a hurry. The British will continue to have access to the single market and the English will be able to travel, study and work throughout Europe. London will continue to influence foreign policy and international security. Furthermore, United Kingdom remain a unit. In your dream! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
And now the back stabbing begins... Poland says Britain must hold a 2nd referendum BUT the EU must change radically ...this was coming for how many years Poland? Why didn't ANYONE of you step up to the plate beforehand? WHY NOW? Dutch courage after we showed you the way? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I agree with you on all points above, except that I'm almost 100% sure, that the fat cats will find a way to get around the referendum result. But, we will see in the coming months.... This may stop the rot entirely. Poland "leaks" French & German plans for the EU Polish Foreign Minister "outraged". SO minister can we see Poland as the next country to exit the "EU"? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
SO minister can we see Poland as the next country to exit the "EU"? Will not happen. Poland and Hungary are the largest net recipient. This means that they get back most of the EU countries in terms of support and contributions compared to what they pay in fees to the EU. In a joint statement tonight the leaders of Germany, France and Italy say the European Union 'must dedicate itself to the worries expressed by its citizens.' How can we the people support something thats is mostly unknown to us? Where do our tax money go to and why? Decisions that seems to be made after secrect lobbying groups have their saying. Many questions that the EU have difficulties to answer. Could it be a culture and language problem. I say yes. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Now that the EU budget will be 10% less, their share will also be less :-) |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
I agree with you on all points above, except that I'm almost 100% sure, that the fat cats will find a way to get around the referendum result. But, we will see in the coming months.... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvp.info%2F25939587%2Feuropejskie-superpanstwo-zobacz-oryginalny-dokument&edit-text=&act=url The news article that the express.co.uk article is reporting... translated to english... Don't know how reliable it is, but it is something I have been saying the EU 'leadership' was planning to do now for a number of years... Looks like you Brits might have gotten out just in time... that is if your Govt. has the intestinal fortitude to do what the People voted to do... The EU is looking and acting more and more like the '4th Reich' with every passing day. The USE.... <snicker>..... Heil Merkel! <spit> https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Just been reading an article on a site, that covers parties in the UK, in other European countries and other countries outside of Europe. It has no direct political connections, in fact tries very hard to ignore political implications, but is considering the implications of the UK being outside the EU, as some of the regulations it works under are governed by the EU. Its reading on the present situation and Article 50 taking into consideration the change of Prime Minister, the Labour party and its leadership mess. 1. New Tory leader (Prime Minister) on 2nd September. 2. Rather than make a decision, the new PM calls for General Election, knowing Labour Party troubles will probably have them in greater turmoil than the Tories. 3. One of the parties will promise 2nd Referendum, in the hope of gaining votes. The other parties will probably follow that line. 4. Article 50 will not be initiated until after the 2nd Referendum if that's the way the vote goes. edit] text in italics |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
This WP article says almost the same as what I said in my previous. Brexit is not just Europe’s problem. It highlights a crisis in democracies worldwide. Had to chuckle at this, A longtime analyst of politics here, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of his position, said: “If you thought your [American] politics were a mess, we can outdo you any time. I’ve never known it in any way, shape or form as bad as this.†|
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30661 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So, as i hinted earlier, the market have now also understood (or rather, the orders from the fat cats have been acknowledged by the UK parliament) that the UK will not really leave the EU. So you willing to bet your life savings on that?! It is called a technical correction. (The pause that refreshes.) It will exhaust itself PDQ and the fall will continue. Got to love those downgrades. Don't get just the government either. No company on the island can get a higher rating than the government, so all UK companies just had their costs skyrocket. Can you say redundant? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19072 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
interesting comment in the Guardian Brexit: UK's most senior EU official resigns after leave vote – as it happened Teebs |
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