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Message 1761069 - Posted: 31 Jan 2016, 17:40:04 UTC - in response to Message 1761061.  

There is a Subscribe button near the top of the page. Click that in the Optimised apps thread and you should get email notifications every time there's a new post.

Specifically the thread: Optimised Applications and Other Binaries if any has trouble finding it.
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Message 1761070 - Posted: 31 Jan 2016, 17:47:55 UTC - in response to Message 1761069.  

Specifically the thread: Optimised Applications and Other Binaries if any has trouble finding it.

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Message 1761080 - Posted: 31 Jan 2016, 18:51:30 UTC - in response to Message 1760971.  

I think to add a feature only used by a fraction of users is not worth implementing.
Also the appinfo already is very huge.

If a feature is an integral part of the app, it shouldn't matter what fraction of users take advantage of it. After all, there are multiple cmdline files and an mbcuda.cfg file that are already included in the Lunatics installer, even though very few people actually use them (or even know about them, for that matter). I would think that the device-specific config files should only be omitted if there's a technical roadblock preventing their inclusion.

As to the size of the app_info file, its very size and complexity are what already make it so difficult to manually edit, which means that anything the installer can do to facilitate the use of a feature would be most welcome. After all, more people might use a feature if they can do so without messing around with the guts of an app_info file.
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Message 1761203 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 3:23:28 UTC - in response to Message 1758148.  

I saw the release of v0.44 saying "Please note that we have been concentrating on accuracy and precision for this release: the applications may run slower than you are used to, because of the enhanced precision required by v8.". Does that mean there are more instructions run by x87 FPU instead of SSE unit? I understand x87 FPU actually calculates at 80bit precision internally. SSE however calculates at 64bit. Anyone knows? Thank you in advance.
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Message 1761208 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 4:02:59 UTC - in response to Message 1761203.  

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Message 1761236 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 5:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 1761208.  
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Thank you Jason.
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Message 1761243 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 6:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 1761236.  
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Thank you Jason.


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Message 1761302 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 12:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 1760955.  

I just discovered that the Astropulse device-specific configuration files (for those with multiple, disparate GPUs) that Raistmer added back in the fall of 2014 apparently still haven't found their way into the app_info.xml file generated by the Lunatics installer.
For Nvidia GPUs, that would be 'AstroPulse_NV_config.xml'

Are you sure this file have to be described in app_info.xml to be used by AstroPulse app?

In AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2742.exe I see this exact string (Copy/Paste):
AstroPulse_ATi_config.xml

I'm not sure if the app needs <soft_link> file in 'slots' or it directly checks the app directory (next to real .exe)
 


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Message 1761303 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 12:50:21 UTC
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Are you sure this file have to be described in app_info.xml to be used by AstroPulse app?


It is necessary to mention the file in appinfo.xml to work properly.
I have tested this detailed.
Last year i made config file available on my cloud but there was not much interest at all.

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<file_info>
<name>Astropulse_ATI_config.xml</name>
</file_info>


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<file_ref>
<file_name>Astropulse_ATI_config.xml</file_name>
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Message 1761374 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 19:22:07 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4695403483

Got my first computation error on lunartics AVX task.
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Message 1761395 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 20:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 1761374.  

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=4695403483

Got my first computation error on lunartics AVX task.


Not an app issue i guess.

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finish file present too long
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Message 1761400 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 21:04:43 UTC

May I hope all the CPU and GPU tasks that come back with non-abort errors or as invalid, along with stack traces I see when I drill into them, are aggregated into a top-level developer's view and analyzed for problem trends, resulting in fixes incorporated into future releases, instead of depending on individuals reporting them?

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Message 1761417 - Posted: 1 Feb 2016, 22:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 1761400.  

May I hope all the CPU and GPU tasks that come back with non-abort errors or as invalid, along with stack traces I see when I drill into them, are aggregated into a top-level developer's view and analyzed for problem trends, resulting in fixes incorporated into future releases, instead of depending on individuals reporting them?

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Taking in account that big part of those developers reside outside of Berkeley w/o direct access to server and their logs... I would consider such _highly_ improbable.
And no agregated view can replace well defined and meaningful bug report, btw.
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Message 1772951 - Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 0:58:19 UTC

Good evening(my time) since I am new to lunatics I just want to ask a couple of questions I installed lunatics on one of my crunch only rigs about 5 days ago after that I think I have a baseline to go by so I would like to start tweaking things particularly with the gpu but I cannot find the files that I need to edit maybe I am looking in the wrong place or am just missing them or I did something wrong with the install. Thanks for any help.
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Message 1772952 - Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 1:23:18 UTC - in response to Message 1772951.  
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Good evening(my time) since I am new to lunatics I just want to ask a couple of questions I installed lunatics on one of my crunch only rigs about 5 days ago after that I think I have a baseline to go by so I would like to start tweaking things particularly with the gpu but I cannot find the files that I need to edit maybe I am looking in the wrong place or am just missing them or I did something wrong with the install. Thanks for any help.

Is your data directory the default location or did you set a different location during installation?

If you are unsure you can open the Event Log in BOINC Manager. The data directory location is displayed near the top.
14-Mar-2016 12:34:48 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.6.23 for windows_x86_64
14-Mar-2016 12:34:48 [---] log flags: sched_ops
14-Mar-2016 12:34:48 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.45.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2d zlib/1.2.8
14-Mar-2016 12:34:48 [---] Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC

The default location is located in a hidden folder for Windows 7 and higher. So you will need to either show hidden folders or manually enter the path.
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Message 1773136 - Posted: 21 Mar 2016, 22:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 1772952.  

Checked the event log to make sure and it says that is where it is at I was pretty sure that I did not change the location but another thought is since I am new to lunatics I do not know where to look even though I read several threads here a lot of the info is directed at people that already know what they are doing not always to newbies like me. Sorry for taking so long to respond but I got some bad news from a couple of my friends that their Dad who had a stroke a month ago is not doing well at all and since we have been friends and hunting buddies for 35 years I had to go see him. Thanks again for your help.
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Message 1773163 - Posted: 22 Mar 2016, 1:31:36 UTC

Thanks Richard for the detail instructions . Very clear and understandable for newbees .
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Message 1780258 - Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 3:09:56 UTC

Hoping this might be the right thread for this. Having an intermittent issue here with V8 GPU tasks erroring out. This seems to be coupled with freezes and the occasional video driver crash. Build here is Win7x64, current Lunatics apps, and I believe not much tweaking to default params. 3.0ghz Core2Quad, 8gb ram with 2x 750ti.

Results are:
Exit status 194 (0xc2) EXIT_ABORTED_BY_CLIENT
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<![CDATA[
<message>
finish file present too long
</message>
<stderr_txt>

Seems to happen at the end of a more or less normal run duration.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
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Message 1780316 - Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 6:55:41 UTC - in response to Message 1780258.  

Any thoughts?

From memory it relates to the BOINC Manager expecting things to be done in a certain time, and they're not, so the error results.

It was suggested I upgrade BOINC, so I upgraded to v7.6.6 (I think that was the version that got the work around for that particular issue) and I haven't seen that error message since; whereas I used to get it every few weeks or so.
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Message 1780323 - Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 7:36:41 UTC - in response to Message 1780316.  

Any thoughts?

From memory it relates to the BOINC Manager expecting things to be done in a certain time, and they're not, so the error results.

It was suggested I upgrade BOINC, so I upgraded to v7.6.6 (I think that was the version that got the work around for that particular issue) and I haven't seen that error message since; whereas I used to get it every few weeks or so.

Thanks, Grant. As it happens, I've got all 4 crunchers on 7.6.22 at this point. Should have included that info.
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