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Message 1928045 - Posted: 5 Apr 2018, 0:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 1928041.  

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Message 1928053 - Posted: 5 Apr 2018, 0:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 1928040.  
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Well. To me it's look more easy to get a gun in the US than to get a date on a saturday night.
Quite sad really.

If you are straight that's likely true, if you are flexible ... but that excludes the GOP who owns the guns
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Message 1928420 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 21:55:59 UTC

U.S. judge upholds Massachusetts assault weapons ban

(Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday upheld a Massachusetts law banning assault weapons including the AR-15, saying the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment guarantee of Americans’ right to bear firearms does not cover them.

U.S. District Judge William Young in Boston ruled that assault weapons and large capacity magazines covered by the 1998 law were most useful in military service and fall outside the scope of the Second Amendment’s personal right to bear arms.

“In the absence of federal legislation, Massachusetts is free to ban these weapons and large capacity magazines,” Young wrote.

He also rejected a challenge to an enforcement notice Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey issued in 2016 to gun manufacturers and dealers clarifying what under the law is a “copy” of an assault weapon like the Colt AR-15.

Healey announced that notice after a gunman killed 49 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

Healey welcomed Young’s ruling. “Strong gun laws save lives, and we will not be intimidated by the gun lobby in our efforts to end the sale of assault weapons and protect our communities and schools,” she said in a statement.
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Message 1928426 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 22:06:20 UTC

At least there's 1 judge other there with brains and common sense.

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Message 1928429 - Posted: 6 Apr 2018, 22:11:33 UTC - in response to Message 1928426.  

At least there's 1 judge other there with brains and common sense.

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Right result, wrong reasons. It will be overturned because of that.

Correct reason, the State can establish regulations for the militia, therefore it can ban ...
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Message 1928541 - Posted: 7 Apr 2018, 5:37:02 UTC - in response to Message 1928426.  

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Message 1928904 - Posted: 8 Apr 2018, 22:51:21 UTC

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Message 1928911 - Posted: 8 Apr 2018, 23:58:40 UTC - in response to Message 1928902.  
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Really?
Read this instead.
https://www.london.gov.uk/city-hall-blog/heres-what-mayor-doing-tackle-violent-crime
Actually the knife problem has become a problem here in Sweden as well.
Especially in schools.
But what Daily Wire does is that they are over exaggeration the problem.
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Message 1928914 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 0:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1928902.  

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Message 1928945 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 3:28:41 UTC - in response to Message 1928915.  

Really?
Read this instead.
https://www.london.gov.uk/city-hall-blog/heres-what-mayor-doing-tackle-violent-crime
Actually the knife problem has become a problem here in Sweden as well.
Especially in schools.
But what Daily Wire does is that they are over exaggeration the problem.

When London overtakes New York City in Homicides...
Gun Control in the USA and Knife Control in the UK.
Perhaps it is more than 'control' which is the problem.
Well...
The annual Stockholm poll 2016, where students in high school can answer questions about crime and vulnerability to crime show that 17 percent of boys say they have been carried weapons in the last twelve months.
Four percent of the girls in high school answered they have been carried weapons in the last twelve months at a school in Södertälje. Among the ninth grade in Södertälje that same year, 13 percent of the boys and five percent of the girls answered that they were carrying weapons.
Only a half a year ago a pupil at a high school in Enskede, Stockholm, died after becoming stabbed by a knife at school. Both the offender and the deceased are students at the school.
Yes. In my former school in Enskede.
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Message 1928986 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 9:43:25 UTC - in response to Message 1928420.  

"assault weapons and large capacity magazines covered by the 1998 law were most useful in military service"
Correct for the most part. But, the AR-15 isn't a assault weapon.

"The AR in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. ... AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” An assault rifle is fully automatic — a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934."

"fall outside the scope of the Second Amendment’s personal right to bear arms."
I guess the judge doesn't know much about weapons or history. When the 2nd Amendment was written the average folks had the same weapons as the military. (flintlock muskets)
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Message 1929015 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 13:32:40 UTC

Strange laws in the US involving guns...
In the US, you don't have to kill to be a murderer
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43673331
After police killed a burglary suspect in a shootout, the officer was not charged - instead a teenage boy who did not fire the gun has been found guilty of his murder. How do accomplice liability laws work?
It's never been in dispute that a Millbrook police officer shot and killed Washington - officer-worn body cameras captured the fatal confrontation. A grand jury declined to charge the officer, finding that the shooting was justified.
Instead, Smith was charged and found guilty of his friend's murder. Last week, a judge sentenced him to 65 years in prison. Under Alabama's accomplice liability law, Smith is considered just as culpable in Washington's death as if he had pulled the trigger himself.
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Message 1929019 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 13:45:20 UTC - in response to Message 1929015.  

moomin, it works like this, you are your buddy go out to rob a store. you are the get away driver, your buddy does the stickup. he shoots someone. you are a murder because you started down the path that led to murder even if you didn't pull the trigger.
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Message 1929020 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 13:51:59 UTC

Known here as an accomplice which faces the same charge as the perpetrator.
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Message 1929025 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 14:08:25 UTC - in response to Message 1929020.  

Known here as an accomplice which faces the same charge as the perpetrator.

But the perpetrator was the police officer...
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Message 1929030 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 14:20:08 UTC - in response to Message 1929019.  

Now the next time a police officer opens fire for no good reason and kills someone, will all the other police officers that also responded and their supervisors be charged?
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Message 1929035 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 15:41:46 UTC - in response to Message 1929033.  

Now the next time a police officer opens fire for no good reason and kills someone, will all the other police officers that also responded and their supervisors be charged?

Only if, as in this case, their initial actions were a conspiracy to commit a crime.

IE: Accomplices conspiring to rob a mom-and-pop store, rape a women, etc.

Commit an assault under color of authority?
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Message 1929038 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 15:43:26 UTC - in response to Message 1929025.  
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Known here as an accomplice which faces the same charge as the perpetrator.

But the perpetrator was the police officer...

Yes. Same as if the shop owner shoots a robber dead. Or misses and hits a bystander. If you didn't start the crime there wouldn't be a dead person.
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Message 1929046 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 16:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 1929038.  

But the perpetrator was the police officer...

Yes. Same as if the shop owner shoots a robber dead. Or misses and hits a bystander. If you didn't start the crime there wouldn't be a dead person.
OK.
But what charges did his other three friends get?
In that logic they should be guilty of murder as well.
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Message 1929084 - Posted: 9 Apr 2018, 20:38:02 UTC - in response to Message 1929038.  

Known here as an accomplice which faces the same charge as the perpetrator.

But the perpetrator was the police officer...

Yes. Same as if the shop owner shoots a robber dead. Or misses and hits a bystander. If you didn't start the crime there wouldn't be a dead person.


Yep.

"felony murder rule"

Sec. 19.02. MURDER.

(a) In this section:

(1) "Adequate cause" means cause that would commonly produce a degree of anger, rage, resentment, or terror in a person of ordinary temper, sufficient to render the mind incapable of cool reflection.

(2) "Sudden passion" means passion directly caused by and arising out of provocation by the individual killed or another acting with the person killed which passion arises at the time of the offense and is not solely the result of former provocation.

(b) A person commits an offense if he:

(1) intentionally or knowingly causes the death of an individual;

(2) intends to cause serious bodily injury and commits an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of an individual; or

(3) commits or attempts to commit a felony, other than manslaughter, and in the course of and in furtherance of the commission or attempt, or in immediate flight from the commission or attempt, he commits or attempts to commit an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of an individual.

(c) Except as provided by Subsection (d), an offense under this section is a felony of the first degree.

(d) At the punishment stage of a trial, the defendant may raise the issue as to whether he caused the death under the immediate influence of sudden passion arising from an adequate cause. If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative by a preponderance of the evidence, the offense is a felony of the second degree.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.19.htm#19.02
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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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