OK:)
But if its difficult to even agree on a name for people with mental disorder how can anybody decide which persons that should be disqualified to the right of bear arms?
And they/we are many. All from being slight funny in the head perhaps once per year to real madmen.
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/statistics-and-facts-about-mental-health/how-common-are-mental-health-problems/#.Wp0qOGrOXtQ

Approximately 1 in 4 people in the UK will experience a mental health problem each year [1].
In England, 1 in 6 people report experiencing a common mental health problem (such as anxiety and depression) in any given week [2].

Should one quarter of the US population be disqualified to the right of bear arms?

OK:)
But if its difficult to even agree on a name for people with mental disorder how can anybody decide which persons that should be disqualified to the right of bear arms?
And they/we are many. All from being slight funny in the head perhaps once per year to real madmen.
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/statistics-and-facts-about-mental-health/how-common-are-mental-health-problems/#.Wp0qOGrOXtQ

Approximately 1 in 4 people in the UK will experience a mental health problem each year [1].
In England, 1 in 6 people report experiencing a common mental health problem (such as anxiety and depression) in any given week [2].

Should one quarter of the US population be disqualified to the right of bear arms?

Oh, nowhere near that many. There is a BIG difference between a mild case of temporary depression and a SERIOUS mental illness.

Every year, about 42.5 million American adults (or 18.2 percent of the total adult population in the United States) suffers from some mental illness, enduring conditions such as depression, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, statistics released Friday reveal.

The data, compiled by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), also indicate that approximately 9.3 million adults, or about 4 percent of those Americans ages 18 and up, experience “serious mental illness” – that is, their condition impedes day-to-day activities, such as going to work.

http://www.newsweek.com/nearly-1-5-americans-suffer-mental-illness-each-year-230608

I would say disqualify the 4%. The ones with SERIOUS problems.



Note the map. Different regions and States in the USA have different rates. Texas has one of the lowest rates (shown as dark blue). Also, per data on the SAMHSA website, Texas' 'Serious' rate is about half (2.1%) of the national average (4%) rate.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

You missed out the most important rights.

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
They are all connected.

SO what happened to the "Life Liberty & Happiness" of those who attended school to pursue that dream?

Wasn't the Bill of Rights brought in to give everyone the opportunity to pursue "Life, Liberty & Happiness"?
After all, isn't your nation "The Land of the Free"?
It seems you love roundabouts, time you got off them as the magic is gone.

Your non understanding that neither the 1st nor the 2nd amendment are inferior to the other...

The foundation of the USA's Constitution is Life, Liberty and... Are Individual Rights granted at birth.

You're back on the roundabout. We know that, SO doesn't those rights confer on those attending school to attend to do their best at securing "Life Liberty & Happiness" for themselves?

To accuse non-Americans of believing that the Bill of Rights is incorrect says much about the accuser.

Where the 2nd Amendment is being argued, specially by gun aficionados, is the right to bear any weapon they deem necessary to defend themselves. That goes against:
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is a part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, and right to petition.

Those rights enable those who attend school to assemble, be educated to a standard that enables them to pursue "Life Liberty & Happiness". It also gives them the right to petition which at the moment is to ban SAW's which is also covered by the right to "Freedom of Speech" to petition for said ban.

It seems that reasoning is beyond your comprehension.

Should one quarter of the US population be disqualified to the right of bear arms?
Oh, nowhere near that many. There is a BIG difference between a mild case of temporary depression and a SERIOUS mental illness.
I would say disqualify the 4%. The ones with SERIOUS problems.

But you are completly wrong.
Mental disorders are not unique to countries or regions.
One quarter of the population of all nations have mental isssues.
Simple fact!
And it's almost impossible to a med to indentify a person with a mental condition that want to to kill another persons.
"Oh he was a very nice guy living in our block. Who could thought of this happen in our community?"
Sounds familary?

Suggested new amendment to the constitution & a short sharp sweet one at that.

28th Amendment
Any individual that breaches the Constitution of the United States of America, especially the "Bill of Rights" by denying the rights of another individual shall henceforth lose all rights under said Constitution. Should that denying of rights to individuals be removed by murder, then upon conviction, the death sentence should be carried out immediately. No appeal to said sentence be allowed as by the act of murder all rights were forfeited.

Job done.

Only problem then would be that there are too many Bleeding Heart Lawyers demanding said convicted person of their "Constitutional rights" That amendment will automatically neutralise said BHL's :-)

I read sometime ago a sentence that raised a few chuckles.
"There are more lawyers in Texas that need shooting than there are horses"
IIRC it was a Tom Clancy novel :-)

Now if he had said "the world" I may have agreed with him :-)

Also, that amendment would more than satisfy not only the NRA but all gun aficionados :-)

The foundation of the USA's Constitution is Life, Liberty and... Are Individual Rights granted at birth.

You just said it yourself, "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" are the most important rights, because they are the foundation.

If you destroy the foundations, everything else will collapse.

The foundation of the USA's Constitution is Life, Liberty and... Are Individual Rights granted at birth.

You just said it yourself, "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" are the most important rights, because they are the foundation.

If you destroy the foundations, everything else will collapse.

That is fundamental to all societies that wish to continue & progress.

Saying that, too many are putting the "individual rights" of the criminal ahead of the "individual rights" of the victims. That has to stop & harsh it may be, but any society HAS to draw a line in the sand.

Cruz took away the "individual rights" of 17 people & even if given the death sentence will spend many years on death row & may even have numerous appeals heard.

All at the expense of the taxpayers, 3 square a day, no worries about having living expenses. He's laughing at you fools.

I'm done with this topic, till the USA get some pride above there holsters and see what needs to change (World can see it) for the kids, this will only continue and get worse!..

The UK abolished the death penalty only to have the Myra Hindley & Ian Brady case reignite the debate. Listening to that debate, I can recall several stating that all life is sacred with others stating that there has been enough miscarriages of justice which took innocent lives. TBH they are very valid sentiments, so...

Ladies & Gentlemen, welcome to this grand Washington Stadium (which was once a swamp with many thinking it still is), to the 2018 Special Super Bowl Final. The 2 teams partaking are:

Innocent lives taken due to miscarriages of justice vs Innocent lives lost due to the 2nd Amendment.

The stadium is packed to the rafters, evenly populated by 1st amendment fans & 2nd amendment fans.

Here we go...






...what a disappointing game, totally one-sided. The 2nd Amendment wins. Will we see this become an annual event in the sporting calendar?

...only the United States of America can answer that question :-(

Does anyone who understands the USA's culture and its political realities. Really believe that the USA's Constitution will be changed in the foreseeable future?

Most of the proposals posted here are very necessary. But since they will not be enacted. They will have no impact.

So once again, I'll repeat a question already posed:

HOW did the 17 amendments to the "original Bill of Rights" occur?

You know what Darwin basically said.
Adapt and evolve in a changing landscape or become extinct.

So from 1791, there were numerous changes, so to say that "there will be no changes in the foreseeable future" is a narrow view to hold is it not?

Who can state that there will be no change in the future?

No one mentioned any diminishments of rights. Just pointing out that changes have occurred to your constitution, something which you proclaim is no longer possible. All that is being asked of you is WHY when it has been clearly shown by that very constitution that change (additions) is possible.

Understanding you, as most foreigners have no real comprehension of the USA's culture, System of Government and saying 7 Amendments have any relevance to this Subject.

Nonsense Clyde.
We foreigners knows a lot of the USA's culture.
Even about the USA's goverment!

There is a clear possibility here.

There are many oldsters out there who abhor change & oft ridicule the young. That has been a feature in many societies I'm afraid.

[quote]We foreigners knows that the American Culture and System of Government are not going to change in a foreseeable future.

The belief that their will be a change to our Constitution, which will diminish Individual Rights, as enumerated in our Bill of Rights, is incorrect.

A belief that there will be a substantial and meaningful change in our laws by our Federal Government and most States, is incorrect.

Why believe the above?

As I have had to say to those who repeatedly propose changes in the USA, or do not accept that 17 Amendments have no relevance to this Subject.

They will not happen. Again, why believe that American Culture and System of Government are changing?

On that roundabout again. NO ONE is demanding changes to your constitution. Al that is being pointed out is that YOUR constitution has been changed as it was only 10 amendments known as the Original Bill of Rights. How has the original 10 got that name? Simple to answer - There have been a further 17 amendments to that 10 therefore they do have relevance in that it shows that Additional amendments can & has been made.

Just who do you think you are in stating that NO FURTHER amendments are possible?

OK... I accept that.
Guessing that all the 'proposals' where just 'wishful thinking'. And should be understood as that.

The difference between European countries and the US is that we do someting about the gun problems.
No 'wishful thinking' here because we have gun problems here as well.