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Message 1926587 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 18:34:55 UTC

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Message 1926589 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 18:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1926520.  

Probably cultural driven semantics. It is expected and that is Ok.

Irregardless of your interpretations, I and many others will bear arms to protect our government. [Insert nifty Pilgrim quote here...]

Yes, Pinewood along with other names. I lived for a while in an apartment next to and owned by the Licensed Victuallers National Home there in Denham. Talk about nice friendly folks. I almost went into the pub business from their influence. Sorry I drift from the stirring of memories.
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Message 1926590 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 19:07:57 UTC
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A nice sing along.
This is my rifle
This is my gun
One is for killing
The others for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZEV_KQgi10
This is an army song but should teachers and high school students do the same?
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Message 1926592 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 19:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 1926590.  

Naw Americans prefer this:

With my three good companions
Just my rifle, pony and me
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Message 1926595 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 19:32:08 UTC
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One fine day in the middle of the night two dead men got up to fight, back to back they faced each other drew there swords and shot each other..
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Message 1926597 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 19:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1926592.  

Naw Americans prefer this:
With my three good companions
Just my rifle, pony and me

Ah. I miss the old cowboy movies...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ssbgThljU
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Message 1926600 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 20:06:38 UTC - in response to Message 1926590.  

A nice sing along.
This is my rifle
This is my gun
One is for killing
The others for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZEV_KQgi10
This is an army song but should teachers and high school students do the same?


LOL... that chant is a bit risque...

The meaning of 'gun' in that is not exactly what you might think.

If you haven't figured it out yet, there is a scene in Full Metal Jacket that explains it nicely.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1926605 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 20:49:23 UTC - in response to Message 1926600.  

A nice sing along.
This is my rifle
This is my gun
One is for killing
The others for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZEV_KQgi10
This is an army song but should teachers and high school students do the same?

LOL... that chant is a bit risque...
The meaning of 'gun' in that is not exactly what you might think.
If you haven't figured it out yet, there is a scene in Full Metal Jacket that explains it nicely.

I have seen the movie and know the two meaning of a 'gun' :)
The scene in Full Metal Jacket is of course an overkill so to speak.
But there are quite a few young people in the US that think "I have a bigger gun than you have" out there in the streets.
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Message 1926664 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 7:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 1926662.  

The same can said of those who keeps posting comments such as these:
France - nice country - shame about the people
America - Nice people - shame about the country
Not forgetting the garbage posted about other countries as well.
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Message 1926669 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 8:09:06 UTC - in response to Message 1926667.  

I take it we have freedom of speech here
Then have the fortitude to practice what you preach & allow others that same privilege.
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Message 1926681 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 9:31:38 UTC - in response to Message 1926680.  

Not spamming. As seen worldwide, sometimes such disagreements lead to violence using knives & guns mostly.

What I do find amusing & mutually exclusive is this comment...

In a Western democracy citizens have the freedom to say what they think. I can go up to Speakers Corner in Hyde Park Corner on a Sunday morning and say publicly exactly what you have quoted. I would judge that quite a few would agree. Provided I don't cause a riot or public affray, or incite people to civil unrest, I will enjoy freedom of speech , without police attention.
...with your constant desire to have this board shutdown...

...yet here you are :-)
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Message 1926703 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 11:55:48 UTC
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Find it surprising because of a specific statement...
Cerberus announced plans to exit the gun business, but could not find a buyer.
...in gun loving America where the 2nd amendment holds sway alongside its buddy - Profits.
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Message 1926725 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 13:44:41 UTC - in response to Message 1926699.  

Now this is surprising


I don't know why you are surprised... That article spells it out quite plainly...


Remington Outdoors, which also owns gun manufacturers including Marlin and Bushmaster, says sales in 2017 were just over $600 million, down more than 30 percent from 2016.

Like other gun manufacturers, Remington saw sharp sales declines following the 2016 presidential election, as customers apparently saw less urgency to stockpile firearms under Donald Trump.


Obama was seen as very anti-gun-rights. Lots of people in the US started stockpiling various firearms. Some firearm companies just saw the boom in their business and unwisely thought that that surge in demand was permanent.

Trump gets elected... People quit massively stockpiling... Supply is still sky-high, demand drops => prices fall => profits fall => debt-load becomes unsustainable => Chapter 11 bankruptcy (reorganization) ensues... This is no big deal, we did have almost 7300 businesses file Ch. 11 in 2016.

Currently, I would be much more concerned about Remington Outdoors subsidiary Bushmaster... One of their main product lines are variants of the AR-15.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Message 1926745 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 16:31:18 UTC - in response to Message 1926725.  

This was forecast months ago for exactly the reason stated.
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Message 1927409 - Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 0:45:11 UTC - in response to Message 1759981.  


Maybe guns / gun safety should be a mandatory class? They are going to encounter them at some point, they should have some basic understanding and not Hollywood fictional special effects as their grounding.


I would of 4t that would be a very sensible thing to happen before you are able to buy a firearm of any sort .

It not like your able to drive a motor vehicle on the roads legaly without any training is it .

How much could deaths by firearm be decreased if to get a license they had to do as much training as they do to drive a car. UK estimate is over 20 hours of driving tuition.

When you consider even with all the driving lessons the death rate for car and light vehicle RTA is 4 times higher than gun related deaths in Canada.


Would be interesting to find that out but it will never happen will it.

It's their go##am right to have them and can't ever see them getting rid of that amendment .
That statement will cause the shi#e to hit the fan big time but the thing is American's can't see what the problem is where the rest of the world can but they have their heads in the sand going nanana we cant hear you but we rule the world so do as we say .
Shame the world's changing not necessarily for the better


First are you comparing "Driving" (a privilage) and "Gun ownership" [in the US] (a Right)??
Second I've seen some Very Bad Drivers even after taking a so-called class/test.

As the owner of many guns:
I've been taught how to handle them safely and have taught my wife and 3 kids the same.
It seems to me a lot of people who are afraid of guns (and things that go bump in the night) want to take away other folks right to own said weapon.

I've been shooting since age 9 some 50 years now.
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Message 1927413 - Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 0:52:37 UTC - in response to Message 1927409.  

I've been taught how to handle them safely and have taught my wife and 3 kids the same.

The main issue is not knowing how to handle guns safely but who gets access to guns and their firepower.
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Message 1927451 - Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 5:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 1927413.  
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I've been taught how to handle them safely and have taught my wife and 3 kids the same.

The main issue is not knowing how to handle guns safely but who gets access to guns and their firepower.

yes/no. A part of that is people who leave their guns out where they can be appropriated by unauthorized persons. That is safety. Applies to people who leave a gun in the nightstand and the burglar steals it. If you aren't using it, it belongs in a safe.

Who should not be allowed access is the issue. Clearly mentally ill persons, mentally incompetent persons, and felons should not be allowed access. I can't understand why there is any push-back on this at all.


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Message 1927466 - Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 8:14:41 UTC - in response to Message 1927451.  
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I've been taught how to handle them safely and have taught my wife and 3 kids the same.

The main issue is not knowing how to handle guns safely but who gets access to guns and their firepower.

yes/no. A part of that is people who leave their guns out where they can be appropriated by unauthorized persons. That is safety. Applies to people who leave a gun in the nightstand and the burglar steals it. If you aren't using it, it belongs in a safe.

Who should not be allowed access is the issue. Clearly mentally ill persons, mentally incompetent persons, and felons should not be allowed access. I can't understand why there is any push-back on this at all.


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And when somebody breaks into my house? What tell them to hold on while I get the gun out of the safe?
I have been taught some simple rules:
Don't point a gun at anything your not going to shoot.
Don't shoot anything your not going to kill.
Don't kill anything that's not trying to harm you or your going to eat.
Treat every gun as though it's loaded.
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