Even if there was slight adjustments to the 2nd Amendment and took 200 years to get on top of the issue,
Wouldn't it be worth it at least its a start?

Does the types of firearm presently allowed need changing? - Yes/No.
If No, tell me why semi-auto rifles and large magazines are acceptable. I'm not interested in your views on manually operated rifles, used for hunting and target shooting with limited sized magazines, or handguns.
If Yes, tell me your own opinion on what weapons should now be allowed or disallowed.

Weird question if you ask me.
Types of firearm and what is acceptable is already regulated in the US weapon law.
Large magazines and bump stocks however is not.
But I keep reading that the US already will change that.
And why all this talk of semi automatic weapons.
Revolvers and pistols have always been semi automatic.
Now rifles have become more and more semi automatic.
In target shooting that can be in handy but in hunting it's useless.
Unless you want minced meat from the game that is and have to use a large magazine.
For self defense...
Please give some links from news media where a defender has successfully defended him/her self with a gun against a shooter.

The issue is the I WANT GUNS crowd is worried they aren't normal so if they had to pass a test they would fail. That and the additional cost they have to pay to take the test.

Yet the application fee I had to pay is £65 and that covers my FAC/SGC for the next Five Years, that is considerably less than the compulsory £10 Million Shooting Insurance and British Deer Society Membership, and Gun Club and Deer Stalking Club Memberships I pay every year.

£13 a year is extremely good value for money to protect my Society from potentially mad people intending to shoot up a school.

There's a lot of immature, and mentally ill people in the US that wouldn't get an FAC or SGC here, and with our strict Laws, would be unable to get hold of a Shotgun or Firearm here. Yes, illegal guns are available here, but they cost the Earth I'm talking thousands of pounds to get hold of, and the rounds are almost impossible to find, and cost hundreds of pounds for small amounts.

Contrast that with nobody that holds Guns or Ammunition legally ever selling them illegally to Criminals, and all of this illegal trade having to be imported from Europe.

Our Government, the Police, and Forensic Authorities are on record of discussing whether they should link the National Firearms Licensing Database with the National Ballistics Information Service Database, and deciding that there was no economical benefit in doing so, because their is virtually nil crossover of information. In other words, Legal Owners don't sell their Guns to Criminals.

All this works because its the Law, a bit of paper, and Mandatory Five Year Prison Sentences for illegal possession, or facilitating illegal possession, and the fact we don't want our kids killed in school, and don't want to be confronted with a mugger or burglar holding a gun.

The UK Police operate by consent of the public, and the Police rely on the public to help police themselves, and provide information on any suspected criminal activity to the Police. Those of us with legally held Firearms, having 'jumped through hoops', are regarded as trusted members of Society by the Police, since we have been authorised to possess what are lethal weapons, and we appear on Police Call Out Lists to deal with injured wild animals for the Police.

So perhaps I don't want to force the US to be like the UK, that is a decision for your children, or your children's children to decide, if they survive school.

All I'm certain of is that it won't be your decision, you'll pass away and your country will grow up.

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Does the types of firearm presently allowed need changing? - Yes/No.
If No, tell me why semi-auto rifles and large magazines are acceptable.

To be fair, if you ban semi auto you don't need to restrict magazine capacity, in the UK semi-auto is Section 5, but there's no restriction on magazine capacity.

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I still don't think that cleary answers my questions. But trying to get into your mind on the subject.

If it was possible, would you repeal the 2nd and ban all gun ownership?

Understanding the millions of rifles in the hands of millions of Americans. Understanding that any attempt at gun confiscation is doomed to failure. Understanding any attempt, at this time or in the foreseeable future to change the American 2nd Amendment, is doomed to failure.

I join with those Americans and Foreigners who wish to stop the insanity. But I also acknowledge it is only wishful thinking

Continue your attempt to direct attention that your proposals have no chance of succeeding.

I understand that my wishes will not happen in the foreseeable future.

Awaiting your acknowledgement that your wishes and proposals are also doomed to failure.

What proposals?
I am trying to see if you have any, irrespective of the time frame.

I haven't expressed my opinion, but as you appear very confused, let me relief you of that small problem.

I would say keep the second.

Owners must justify need for each weapon. Semi-automatic rifles and large magazines are "not" required by hunters or target shooters.

That there should be effective background checks before a license is granted to purchase each weapon. Examples are listed, which no doubt you read, but for others is at NYT - How to Buy a Gun in 15 Countries, Australia's method would be suitable.

Non of this buy a gun within the hour. No private sales.

License to be renewed annually.

Is there any reason not to justify why you need "that weapon"
Stop repeating yourself we read it the first time.

Yes, illegal guns are available here, but they cost the Earth I'm talking thousands of pounds to get hold of, and the rounds are almost impossible to find, and cost hundreds of pounds for small amounts.

Strange. A bit different in Sweden:)
Here are illegal weapons cheaper than the legal weapons.
Yes, even cheaper than ice cream.

Illegal hand grenades are cheaper than ice cream on the market. That tells police officer and spokesman Gunnar Appelgren, who handles serious arms crimes, and has himself been involved in hand grenades in Sweden and in the Balkans in recent years. In co-operation with the Balkan police, he captured and stopped over one hundred grenades and about ten automatic rifles to be sent to Stockholm this year.
"Last year we saw a package of 64 grenades and 16 automatic rifles that cost around 1,000 euros to buy from the Balkans," says Appelgren for SVT Nyheter.
But it's only the weapons that cost money. The 64 hand grenades are free of charge or they cost one or two euros. The low price is probably due to the fact that they are not demanded in the Balkans because they are consumed quickly and are dangerous to be in possession of their homes.

Very much like in the US with a lot of weapons cheaper than dirt.
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/

Is there any reason not to justify why you need "that weapon"
Stop repeating yourself we read it the first time.

There is no reason, in the USA, to justify your political speech, your right of association, your right to publish news, your right to keep and bear arms, your right to...

Yes, I do understand that the necessary repeated corrections to repeated incorrect assumptions of what is possible, makes you 'uncomfortable'.

You missed out the most important rights.

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

You missed out the most important rights.
"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Indeed.
And that part of the US Constitution is on the front page!
"Unalienable rights" which the Declaration says have been given to all human beings by their Creator, and which governments are created to protect.
Bring tears to many statesmen all over the world.

Hmm. Creator? Delete that part and Americans are home free:)

There is no reason, in the USA, to justify your political speech, your right of association, your right to publish news, your right to keep and bear arms, your right to...

Yes, I do understand that the necessary repeated corrections to repeated incorrect assumptions of what is possible, makes you 'uncomfortable'.

So here's a correction for you showing JUST what is possible.

Essentially, it all began as a disagreement over the way Great Britain treated the colonies versus the way the colonies felt they should be treated.

Americans felt they deserved all the rights of Englishmen. The British, on the other hand, felt that the colonies were created to be used in the way that best suited the crown and parliament.

So with the beliefs you have shown on these boards, then you should still be a serf of the British Empire :-)

Change is not possible? What planet are you living on?

Still want to hear about what the US people think about weapon laws in Europe and why we in Europe doesn't have the same problem in the US.
Europe
Countries: 50 sovereign states, 6 with limited recognition
Dependencies: 6 dependencies
Largest urban areas: Istanbul, Moscow, Paris, London, Madrid and some more.

Wow...

..."Washington DC police said on Twitter that their "natural death squad" was on the scene."

Trump not at home so decides to shoot himself

Yes, illegal guns are available here, but they cost the Earth I'm talking thousands of pounds to get hold of, and the rounds are almost impossible to find, and cost hundreds of pounds for small amounts.

Strange. A bit different in Sweden:)
Here are illegal weapons cheaper than the legal weapons.
Yes, even cheaper than ice cream.

Illegal hand grenades are cheaper than ice cream on the market. That tells police officer and spokesman Gunnar Appelgren, who handles serious arms crimes, and has himself been involved in hand grenades in Sweden and in the Balkans in recent years. In co-operation with the Balkan police, he captured and stopped over one hundred grenades and about ten automatic rifles to be sent to Stockholm this year.
"Last year we saw a package of 64 grenades and 16 automatic rifles that cost around 1,000 euros to buy from the Balkans," says Appelgren for SVT Nyheter.
But it's only the weapons that cost money. The 64 hand grenades are free of charge or they cost one or two euros. The low price is probably due to the fact that they are not demanded in the Balkans because they are consumed quickly and are dangerous to be in possession of their homes.

Very much like in the US with a lot of weapons cheaper than dirt.
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/

That is odd, here you're probably looking at a couple of thousand for an illegal handgun, and maybe the same for an illegal rifle.

Legally held and you can't buy a handgun unless you're a Veterinary, Stock Handler, or Deer Stalker, and even then they tend to go for a captive bolt, but it's also possible to have a breech loaded handgun restricted (usually) to two rounds total capacity by modification. whilst the gun is possibly £500+ the modifications will likely cost between £200 - £500 more. a rifle can be bought legally second hand from £100 or so, up to new averaging a full bore at £1,000 - £1.500, and shotguns second-hand are around £40 secondhand up to £20,000 new, but basically a shotguns .

Whilst all illegal firearms are second hand, they want new money due to the risk, and the fact that no legal owner would sell to criminal, in fact I understand the cost is so high that even drug gangs have a shared weapon, stored at a drop site, which also reduces the risk of being caught in possession.

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4 key dates

Question for the resident constitutionist: Note the 3rd date.

Change is not possible without amending the Constitution? Dick Heller did so :-)

So if change can be done then, why not now?

The Constitution was not written to restrain the citizens' behavior. It was written to restrain the government's behavior.

That is our difference. The only country in the world to do so.

har... ;-)

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The Constitution was not written to restrain the citizens' behavior. It was written to restrain the government's behavior.
That is our difference. The only country in the world to do so.
har... ;-)

You need guns to protect yourself from your elected government's behavior?
Makes no sense at all to me.
Of course you are the only country in the world to do so.
Or do you have any example of a country beside the US?

The Constitution was not written to restrain the citizens' behavior. It was written to restrain the government's behavior.

That is our difference. The only country in the world to do so.

har... ;-)

And the world can see the results!!

And I personally care little what other countries see and or think.

I have to ask if it is so bad here why are so many trying to get in the US of A?

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So they can nibble away from the inside :-)

And I personally care little what other countries see and or think.

I have to ask if it is so bad here why are so many trying to get in the US of A?

To stock up on guns?