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Message 1921306 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 13:47:36 UTC - in response to Message 1921302.  
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No he didn't.
Wiggo posted; " Agree"

In your reply to Wiggo, you mangled up an "end of quote" and it ended up like this;
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It doesn't matter whether we, from the rest of the World, understand the gun culture of the US or not, all we are asking the people of the US to look at themselves and ask "Is this the correct gun culture?" this massacre shouldn't be allowed to carry on.
Because all the evidence says it is a failed culture.
It will take time for any change, but as a first step I would suggest an immediate ban on AR15's and similar. There is absolutely no requirement for a private citizen to own this type of weapon for any reason. And then look at where the country needs to go from there.[our uote]
Agree.


It should have looked like this;

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It doesn't matter whether we, from the rest of the World, understand the gun culture of the US or not, all we are asking the people of the US to look at themselves and ask "Is this the correct gun culture?" this massacre shouldn't be allowed to carry on.
Because all the evidence says it is a failed culture.
It will take time for any change, but as a first step I would suggest an immediate ban on AR15's and similar. There is absolutely no requirement for a private citizen to own this type of weapon for any reason. And then look at where the country needs to go from there...


Agree.
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Message 1921313 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:13:43 UTC - in response to Message 1921308.  
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You have mangled again this time by deleteing a [ quote], it should look like this, notice the two (2) quote bars on the left.

Wiggo DID NOT ask a question.

It's not the 1st time by far and won't be the last either (Alzheimer's for sure), but what did you expect?

Cheers.
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Message 1921326 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:31:11 UTC

Meanwhile in Russia.

Russians are more pragmatic than Americans.
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Message 1921327 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:33:10 UTC - in response to Message 1921317.  

Failed, unlike myself, to admit his mistake.
You mean like this?
Waiting in trepidation that the impossible may occur - You actually answer the questions raised!
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Message 1921330 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:38:10 UTC - in response to Message 1921317.  

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78752&postid=1921259#1921259

That's a strange accusation, do I have to answer a question in public that wasn't asked by you?

Or, it might be that I had second thoughts, as my answer might have been against the rules.
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Message 1921333 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:41:24 UTC - in response to Message 1921329.  

Failed, unlike myself, to admit his mistake.
You mean like this?
Waiting in trepidation that the impossible may occur - You actually answer the questions raised!

Referencing your personal attack against me:

"...so stop being asinine!"

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78752&postid=1921170#1921170

'nuff said.

Still awaiting Nick's acknowledgement of his false accusation.

What false accusation, I pointed out that Wiggo DID NOT ASK A QUESTION.
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Message 1921337 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 14:49:12 UTC - in response to Message 1921327.  

Waiting in trepidation that the impossible may occur - You actually answer the questions raised!
The immobile object wins.
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Message 1921339 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:00:15 UTC - in response to Message 1921336.  
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What false accusation is in post 1921170?

edi] I have just gone back and reread your reply. And I can say quite honestly say you did not answer the question. In fact I think you failed to understand the question.

So I will rephrase it, without putting in my probably poor recommendations.

The present US gun culture is an obvious failure, so what can the US do to redeem it?

Also I question your bullet points, the first is dubious, you said "the vast majority", PEW says only just over half.
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Message 1921340 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:03:13 UTC

Well it seems like you are having problems with your bigger guns & their platforms.

When two dissimilar metals come into electrical contact, as they did in this case, those metals corrode at different rates. A cathodic protection system, which would have prevented this, was never specified for the ship and therefore never installed.
Galvanic Reaction has been known about & fully understood for nearly 200 years.

Maybe a new amendment is required. Any that waste taxpayers funds be charged & prosecuted.

Really? In the 2nd decade of the 21st century? For crying out aloud Wake Up America
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Message 1921343 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:08:54 UTC - in response to Message 1921342.  

Good reply however I can't give you a +1 because of your 2nd sentence.
If that is true, can you please explain how 17 amendments to the original "Bill of Rights" came about?
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Message 1921345 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 1921341.  

What false accusation is in post 1921170?

Sorry Nick...
Awaiting you acknowledgement that despite your continuous accusation that I didn't answer The Question. You were wrong.

Sorry, your attempts to deflect from your failure to acknowledge will not succeed.

read my edit.
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Message 1921347 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:20:20 UTC - in response to Message 1921344.  

+1 & deserved. Your current population is around 325m, how is it that an organisation of 5m members hold sway over the other 320m? (Aside from the obvious answer which cropped up in the Great Leader thread).
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Message 1921352 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:33:40 UTC

I( wonder how many Americans have read the 2'nd amendemt and actually understood the meaning.
Actually it's very tricky and much has changed since 1791.
Amendment II
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
Passed by Congress September 25, 1789. Ratified December 15, 1791.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii
Modern debates about the Second Amendment have focused on whether it protects a private right of individuals to keep and bear arms, or a right that can be exercised only through militia organizations like the National Guard. This question, however, was not even raised until long after the Bill of Rights was adopted.

It's strange that the US are focusing on the individual Right to keep and bear arms today.
The US has today a large police force and the largest army in the world to protect US individuals.
(That makes me think it would better that the US Army protect US individuals more than protect US interests oversees)
There are of course exeptions where individuals have less protection in for instance in rural parts of the US.
But the gun problems are not there but more in the cities where most people live in.
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Message 1921353 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:36:58 UTC - in response to Message 1921349.  

Can't answer that as not fully cognisant of your culture & laws. However, what I do know is that judges (not SCOTUS) introduced legislation that directly intervenes the 2nd Amendment without any change to the constitution.

All I can say is that flies in the face of those who stick adamantly to their 2nd amendment right. Why didn't they raise a furore over that legislation when it came up?
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Message 1921355 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 15:46:17 UTC - in response to Message 1921354.  

After all that how come the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, a subsection of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, was passed by congress in Sept 1994.
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Message 1921359 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 16:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 1921355.  

Wow, you learn something new every day :-)

A February 2013 Congressional Research Service (CRS) report to Congress said that the "Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 was unsuccessfully challenged as violating several constitutional provisions". The report said that challenges to three constitutional provisions were easily dismissed. The ban did not make up an impermissible Bill of Attainder. It was not unconstitutionally vague. And it was ruled not incompatible with the Ninth Amendment by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Would love to know what made it compatible.
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Message 1921365 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 16:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 1921358.  

The hundreds of millions guns in possession of over one hundred million Americans

Source please, my quick look says at most 40% (other sources say 32%) of households own firearms and there are 126 million households in the US. The quick calculation says your figure is double the actual number as most gun owners own more than one firearm. The most common firearms are shotguns.
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Message 1921366 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 16:40:28 UTC - in response to Message 1921363.  

Hmm, that validates my original comment regarding the 9th. Nice to know.
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Message 1921370 - Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 17:03:41 UTC - in response to Message 1921368.  

850,000 have a concealed,

That's only 4% of the population.
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