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Message 1917573 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 1:50:47 UTC - in response to Message 1917572.  

Let's not try to draw conclusions about other posters' beliefs or personalities.

Just keep it to the topic.

Unfortunately, because of the Topic.

There will be strong disagreement between those attacking the USA and those who believe that is just an example of The Pot Calling the Kettle...
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Message 1917574 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 1:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 1917568.  

So now you're attacking the 'inferior' people, irredeemable deplorables, the masses, et al, as "ideologues"!

Some are and I am not and find that to be deplorable, do you?

Those that believe they are superior to others, as you do. Not that that others are wrong in their beliefs.

Have, if they gain power. Committed the greatest crimes against humanity.


So you won't answer my questions, how deplorable.
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Message 1917576 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 1:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 1917573.  

Let's not try to draw conclusions about other posters' beliefs or personalities.

Just keep it to the topic.

Unfortunately, because of the Topic.

There will be strong disagreement between those attacking the USA and those who believe that is just an example of The Pot Calling the Kettle...

It's fine to disagree about things in principle; just don't make it personal.
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Message 1917579 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 2:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 1917574.  
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So now you're attacking the 'inferior' people, irredeemable deplorables, the masses, et al, as "ideologues"!

Some are and I am not and find that to be deplorable, do you?

Those that believe they are superior to others, as you do. Not that that others are wrong in their beliefs.

Have, if they gain power. Committed the greatest crimes against humanity.


So you won't answer my questions, how deplorable.

Again, another failed attempt by omitting the post referenced, to deflect from your beliefs.

I posted: BTW: You are also not superior to 'the people'

You replied: How do you know?

Yes, you responded to "the people". Not the people who are ideologies. That was your reference that your beliefs are dismissed. Not about 'superiority'.

Then you attempted to deflect attention from that.
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Message 1917580 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 2:11:19 UTC

Let's try not to get into semantics with each other.
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Message 1917585 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 2:42:54 UTC - in response to Message 1917580.  

Let's try not to get into semantics with each other.

That is his way.
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Message 1917587 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 2:49:22 UTC - in response to Message 1917579.  
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I posted: BTW: You are also not superior to 'the people'

You replied: How do you know?

Yes, you responded to "the people". Not the people who are ideologies. That was your reference that your beliefs are dismissed. Not about 'superiority'.

Since you know nothing about my IQ, education, work experience or or anything else about the rest of my life how can you make a judgement about me?
I may very well be superior.
You still refuse to answer my question , do you find ideologues to be deplorable?
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Message 1917588 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 2:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 1917585.  

Let's try not to get into semantics with each other.

That is his way.

Sorry Gordon, he cannot stop and still tries to use semantics to deflect from his post.

The Post in question:

BTW: You are also not superior to 'the people'

How do you know?

Yes "how do you know"?

Then he responds to a second and unrelated thought.

Yes, they do understand and dismiss your attacks against them.

So what? Being attacked by ideologues is a badge of distinction.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78752&postid=1917535#1917535
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Message 1917592 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 3:06:26 UTC

Ok, let's just stop this. Maybe someone can start a thread on debate strategies and argumentative logic, but otherwise, please keep the discussion about the topic rather than the way posters are expressing themselves.
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Message 1917663 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 14:41:12 UTC - in response to Message 1917592.  

Ok, let's just stop this. Maybe someone can start a thread on debate strategies and argumentative logic, but otherwise, please keep the discussion about the topic rather than the way posters are expressing themselves.

I doubt it will stop. One or more of the posters is posting to get their rocks off.
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Message 1917675 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 16:02:28 UTC - in response to Message 1917663.  
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Ok, let's just stop this. Maybe someone can start a thread on debate strategies and argumentative logic, but otherwise, please keep the discussion about the topic rather than the way posters are expressing themselves.

I doubt it will stop. One or more of the posters is posting to get their rocks off.

Hi Gordon... They will not, nor cannot stop.

Just a burden we have to carry.
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Message 1917688 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 18:32:32 UTC - in response to Message 1917675.  

Oh
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Message 1917702 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 20:57:38 UTC - in response to Message 1917688.  

Oh

Again...

Hi Gordon... They will not, nor cannot stop.

Just a burden we have to carry.
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Message 1917709 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 21:13:51 UTC - in response to Message 1917702.  

How many times will you keep saying the same thing over and over?
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Message 1917713 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 21:53:08 UTC - in response to Message 1917709.  
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How many times will you keep saying the same thing over and over?

#1 - When you stop posting "Oh" over and over and over and over and over again.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82531&postid=1916803#1916803
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82531&postid=1916742#1916742
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82366&postid=1916522#1916522
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82366&postid=1916400#1916400
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82366&postid=1915969#1915969

#2 - When you understand that you repeat your beliefs over and over and over again. As all do.
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Message 1917715 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 22:03:17 UTC

Does anyone want to continue the topic matter of this thread? Let's all try harder to drop the needling and just move on...
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Message 1917716 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 22:03:29 UTC

Yawn.
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Message 1917717 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 22:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 1917715.  
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Does anyone want to continue the topic matter of this thread? Let's all try harder to drop the needling and just move on...

Gordon... Apparently "Oh" and "Yawn" do not.

But if they, and another, will stop commandeering this topic. This is very important life and death subject. Affecting the lives of many.
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Message 1917718 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 22:09:32 UTC

Alright, well, hopefully someone will take the hi-road and get things back on track; otherwise, this thread just needs to close.
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Message 1917721 - Posted: 8 Feb 2018, 22:24:12 UTC
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•What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer•

America’s gun homicide rate was 33 per million people in 2009, far exceeding the average among developed countries. In Canada and Britain, it was 5 per million and 0.7 per million, respectively, which also corresponds with differences in gun ownership.

Americans sometimes see this as an expression of deeper problems with crime, a notion ingrained, in part, by a series of films portraying urban gang violence in the early 1990s. But the United States is not actually more prone to crime than other developed countries, according to a landmark 1999 study by Franklin E. Zimring and Gordon Hawkins of the University of California, Berkeley.

Rather, they found, in data that has since been repeatedly confirmed, that American crime is simply more lethal. A New Yorker is just as likely to be robbed as a Londoner, for instance, but the New Yorker is 54 times more likely to be killed in the process.

They concluded that the discrepancy, like so many other anomalies of American violence, came down to guns.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international.html

With gun ownership at an all time high. With the USA's Constitutional Right for an individual to own firearms for whatever reason they wish.

How, execpting an improbable change to this portion of our Constitution, can we effectively reduce gun violence?
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