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Message 2085869 - Posted: 9 Oct 2021, 9:11:28 UTC - in response to Message 2085840.  

Jesus. Played the clip numerous times until I could manage to confirm what I saw.
Managed it after some playbacks.
WTH was that muppet thinking of?
He was clear of the barrier on the left so why reverse?
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Message 2085873 - Posted: 9 Oct 2021, 12:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 2085869.  

What's going on in Staffordshire, period?

Wedgwood railway station served the Wedgwood complex in Barlaston, Staffordshire, England. Although the station is not officially closed, no trains currently call at the station and it is instead served by a rail replacement bus.

Plans to officially close the station to passengers, and reopen Barlaston, were planned for May 2021. However no Notice of Closure for Wedgwood has been published and there is no service at Barlaston.
He's headed westwards, and has just passed the turning for a major complex. Maybe he was expected to deliver there, and - foolishly - thought it would be better to 'back' than 'turn'?
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Message 2085897 - Posted: 9 Oct 2021, 20:38:46 UTC - in response to Message 2085873.  

Maybe he was expected to deliver there, and - foolishly - thought it would be better to 'back' than 'turn'?
He saw the signs.
Just checked, Height restriction & tonnage limits.
7'6"
5 ton limit
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Message 2085915 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 0:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 2085897.  

Maybe he was expected to deliver there, and - foolishly - thought it would be better to 'back' than 'turn'?
He saw the signs.
Just checked, Height restriction & tonnage limits.
7'6"
5 ton limit

Yep, passed the last turn, and finally the restrictions registered. At least he didn't snap the bridge in half. Reverse would have worked if a train wasn't coming.
Likely a GPS fail.
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Message 2085938 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 7:29:13 UTC - in response to Message 2085915.  

There's a purpose-built turning circle, and two sets of advance warning signs, before you reach the level crossing.
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Message 2085949 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 14:28:17 UTC - in response to Message 2085938.  

There's a purpose-built turning circle, and two sets of advance warning signs, before you reach the level crossing.

Huh, the flashing lights mean something? https://11foot8.com/
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Message 2085952 - Posted: 10 Oct 2021, 14:40:11 UTC

I wondered what his destination was, so watched the video again to check his load.
They look like mobile solar power lighting units.
Checking the map again, one can safely assume that he was heading for Severn Trent water.
If that was the case, there is only one way to get there & that is through Barlaston.
Sadly there are many places like that & if one does deliveries in the country outside of major towns & cities, one will hit that same issue.
One thing GPS cannot do is pre-plan, whereas the Mk 1 computer can. :-)
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Message 2085978 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 0:35:18 UTC - in response to Message 2085952.  

I wondered what his destination was, so watched the video again to check his load.
They look like mobile solar power lighting units.
Checking the map again, one can safely assume that he was heading for Severn Trent water.
If that was the case, there is only one way to get there & that is through Barlaston.
Sadly there are many places like that & if one does deliveries in the country outside of major towns & cities, one will hit that same issue.
One thing GPS cannot do is pre-plan, whereas the Mk 1 computer can. :-)

Still a GPS fail, its database should know the road isn't suitable and not offer it. It that means it says "no route" then that is what it says. At that point Mk 1 computers call the shipper and the customer and alternative delivery methods are arranged.

If your GPS database doesn't know road restrictions, that is a Mk 1 computer failure (of the person specifying the GPS).

On this side of the pond there are GPS that are truck route only aware which will keep you out of that trouble.

OBW it isn't just out in the sticks, here in the heart of Los Angeles https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0941474,-118.2066013,79m/data=!3m1!1e3 look at that nice tight turn to get onto the south freeway. [look at a mirror image on the other side of the pond] I've personally seen several HGV's jackknife themselves trying to get on. Never mind the freeway is cars only and has been shown that way on the books since the 1950's. https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/programs/traffic-operations/documents/trucks/truckmap-d07-a11y.pdf which leads to https://dot.ca.gov/programs/traffic-operations/legal-truck-access/restrict-list "No commercial vehicles over 6,000 lbs gross vehicle weight, including buses unless authorized by the PUC." and also https://dot.ca.gov/programs/traffic-operations/legal-truck-access/restrict-route-110

Mk1 eyeballs and computers need to be used before engine start!
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Message 2085979 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 0:55:38 UTC
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Message 2085981 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 2:56:09 UTC - in response to Message 2085978.  

Still a GPS fail
Wouldn't know. Never used one. Never had a need to. :-)
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Message 2085983 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 3:00:10 UTC - in response to Message 2085979.  

For those who wish to cry over idiots and supercars.
It certainly is a case of ground effects stopping it from achieving orbit.

What's a GPS? LOL

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Message 2085987 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 5:12:33 UTC - in response to Message 2085981.  

Still a GPS fail
Wouldn't know. Never used one. Never had a need to. :-)
Likely required now with Google traffic to predict the most efficient routing.
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Message 2085989 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 6:27:15 UTC - in response to Message 2085987.  
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Still a GPS fail
Wouldn't know. Never used one. Never had a need to. :-)
Likely required now with Google traffic to predict the most efficient routing.
An indication of the brilliance (or lack of) when it comes to route planning software.

Apparently the software many of our drivers now have to use originated in the US where they drive on the right hand side of the road. Here we drive on the left hand side of the road- but the software hadn't been modified to take that in to consideration. So the drivers instead of doing what they have always done- driving along & stopping to deliver at that address -were having to turn across traffic to get to the delivery address, then turn across traffic again when leaving the delivery address to get to the next address, then having to turn across traffic again to deliver to the next address. Then turn across the traffic again to get to their next delivery address, etc, etc, etc. Rinse & repeat (apparently that issue has been fixed- it took months would you believe to convince those higher up that this was a problem).

To add to that mess, the software often has the drivers driving up & down the same road 3, 4 or even as many as 6 times as they would deliver an item, then drive past an address that had a delivery in order to deliver a few more parcels further down the road, then drive back to the address they went past previously to finally deliver there.
And the software has them delivering parcels in a group of streets, then going to the other side of the suburb (or to another suburb), do some deliveries there, then back to the area they were before to do more deliveries there.


On a big day the drivers using the manual run method were able to deliver 250+ parcels. With the brilliant new computer optimised delivery system, if they can do 150 it's a miracle (if they have to deliver to multiple suburbs 80 can be a good result). And still we are unable to convince those that brought in the system that it's not as wonderful as they claim it is- regardless of all the evidence pointing to that conclusion.
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Message 2086014 - Posted: 11 Oct 2021, 14:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 2085989.  

A phenomenon well known about in the driver's database.
Sadly it pre-dates software.
It now also permeates throughout society as seen by the "me 1st" & "you will deliver when I want the delivery" crowd.
The best one I ever experienced was a day that was unexpected for both my oppo & I.
We arrived at our last drop at 10:30 & thought, this is a 1st back home by 1pm at the latest.
No answer at the door so called customer.
"Sorry, I'm at work. You will have to wait until I get home."
"What time will that be"
"Around 4:30pm"
"Okay no problem"

15 minutes from the depot (12:40), phone rings.
It's the office where are you?
On the 605
Oh
Why?
Can you go back to Shillingford (Oxfordshire)?
No.

Think about that. :-)
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Message 2086235 - Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 13:56:17 UTC

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Message 2086252 - Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 19:12:40 UTC

Can't view that from the UK at the moment. :(
Happy Crunching,

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Message 2086260 - Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 22:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 2086252.  

Can't view that from the UK at the moment. :(

For those that can't access the carjacking article previously linked here is a link to a different site with just about Verbatim text:
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2021/10/14/would-be-alleged-carjackers-bested-victim-trained-martial-arts/
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Message 2086383 - Posted: 18 Oct 2021, 14:24:02 UTC

Do a lot of motoring?
Be careful out there, not all the idiots are on the road.
Don't wear distinctive t-shirts in a bus lane
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Message 2086416 - Posted: 18 Oct 2021, 23:11:36 UTC
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After 4yrs of knowing about this problem finally D.C. Pulls 60 Percent of Its Metro Fleet After Design Flaw Causes Derailment.

The Metro authority's safety commission ordered overnight that the entire 7000-series line of trains—comprising 748 cars, or about 60 percent of the fleet—should be pulled.

Jennifer Homendy, chair of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), told reporters Monday that a problem with the line had been identified, the AP said. The trains' wheels were positioned too wide on the axles and could cause the vehicle to slip off the tracks.

"We're at the preliminary stage of our investigation—just trying to collect data and information," Homendy said. "This could have resulted in a catastrophic event."
If the problem was known about back in 2017 the question must be asked, why has it taken this long to do something about it?

[edit] Another take on the problem, Washington Subway Derailment Spurs Warning for Other Cities.

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Message 2086423 - Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 2:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 2086416.  

If the problem was known about back in 2017 the question must be asked, why has it taken this long to do something about it?

Not surprising - politics gets in the way..

This is the USA where if we knew about it 40 years ago, we might now just be getting around to forming an advisory board to look at it.

Just about all "big metro cities" here work like this.
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