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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That section of the A47 has always been a bit contentious. Up to Ring End, it's dual carriageway but from there its single with the A141 to March on the right, A47 on the left to Wisbech. On the last update I posted, the police got it wrong. The bus driver & 1 passenger was killed. As for the truck tacho, there is also the bus tacho & telematics. if any. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Which side of Guyhirn village are we talking? If it's on the approach from the west, the bus would be heading directly into the morning sun. It should be high enough in the sky not to matter, but that sort of thing doesn't show up on tachographs. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13752 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Multi-vehicle crash shuts Kwinana Freeway as motorist trapped under truck. Motorists are being warned of severe delays on the Kwinana Freeway in both directions after a car was crushed by a truck in a crash that left at least one motorist trapped. Grant Darwin NT |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Good question Richard. It made me think & go back & check. It's not actually Guyhirne, the accident happened on "my side" of the A47. I completely forgot that the A47 dual carriageway ends just before Thorney Toll & Bretts is not far from there, and the address where the accident occurred is: Thorney Rd, Guyhirne, Wisbech St Mary, Wisbech PE13 so not near the village itself. Depending on traffic Guyhirne itself is approx. 5 minutes or so from Bretts & is on the left after turning left at Ring's End. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Maybe a picture helps? Crash happened at the PE13 marker, bus was travelling east-south-east. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Wasn't a bad guesstimate :-) It was the report stating Guyhirn that put me off as I thought that Bretts was on the same stretch of road as Ken Thomas transport. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Wasn't a bad guesstimate :-) It was the report stating Guyhirn that put me off as I thought that Bretts was on the same stretch of road as Ken Thomas transport. https://goo.gl/maps/fa4CQvVFs1L2 Why do I get the feeling a personal electronic device was involved? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22231 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
All sorts of possible contributing factors - the last few days the sun has been at a very awkward angle for higher vehicles, the truck may have stalled, one of the drivers distracted by something else on the road. And so the list goes on. Sadly bus vs. truck tends to be a very one sided debate for all concerned :-( Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Especially in a T-bone incident like that. Watch out for the side-view video of the bus being removed from the scene: the rigid flat-bed of the truck has gouged a huge void into the front of the bus - right through the driver's seating position. Either the truck pulled out without the driver looking both ways, or the bus driver - whether through distraction, weather, or illness - didn't react to the obstruction. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That's what I thought. I've delivered to both Bretts & Ken Thomas. Leaving their yard can be awkward as that is a busy stretch of road. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
That's what I thought. I've delivered to both Bretts & Ken Thomas. Leaving their yard can be awkward as that is a busy stretch of road. Looks like there is good visibility. Only frustration in not having a big enough break in traffic and simply pulling out or a bus driver who didn't have eyeballs down the road. And as how far the rig got out of the yard before the hit, I'm thinking it might be the latter. That and I can't see skid marks on the road from the news photos although they aren't closeups. |
Kevin Olley Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 906 Credit: 261,085,289 RAC: 572 |
If the truck had come to a complete stop before leaving the yard and depending on the weight of his load, it would have taken him a good few seconds to get to the point where he was hit, no arrests so far and tacho and telematics data would have been processed almost immediately after the accident, probably before the vehicles were moved, it does look like the bus driver did not have his attention fully on the road. Kevin |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
There's one drinker who isn't going to be put off by minimum unit prices. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14654 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22231 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Knowing how busy the roads are in most Chinese cities I am absolute amazed at the lack of traffic on either level of that road. Also there appears to be some fabric blowing around - was this actually an intentional act that went slightly wrong? Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Knowing how busy the roads are in most Chinese cities I am absolute amazed at the lack of traffic on either level of that road. Also there appears to be some fabric blowing around - was this actually an intentional act that went slightly wrong? Looks more like tarps and it seems to be rain soaked wet. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13752 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Up to 50 people could be entitled to compensation after bitumen on a recently resurfaced road in far north Queensland melted around car tyres, causing traffic chaos and damage to vehicles. Roadworks booboo. Grant Darwin NT |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Oh boy, this guy didn't just hit a house, he was embedded in the house. Wisconsin man charged after minivan gets embedded in house. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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