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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22231 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Tesla's big mistake is the system can tell when the driver is ignoring it**. The software must go into a fail safe mode and bring the vehicle to a stop and if no action is taken then call 911, assuming a medical emergency, just like OnStar calls 911 if the airbags deploy. I agree - a "shut-down, cool-down" period before being able to drive off, then having to DRIVE the car with the autopilot function disabled is one possible way of reducing the number of moron-induced crashes. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13752 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
No human in the aircraft is an autopilot today. No, that is a drone, as you pointed out in your following sentence. You are the one trying to change the words used for particular colours (as you described it previously). An autopilot on a modern aircraft can do everything from take off, fly, and land (for the most advanced units), however there is still a pilot on the aircraft & they are responsible for the aircraft. While such an Auto Pilot can do everything, that isn't what it is there for- it is there to assist the pilot to do their job, not to do it all for them, un-supervised without any input from the pilot. I'm not debating who should be at fault, I telling you what a jury will find and why. That just reflects poorly on the jury. People who design products and name features must always realize a moronic idiot will be a user and design it so he can use it and not kill himself or others. Just as an ordinary car is subject to misuse & abuse, and the driver is responsible for their actions, the same applies to any vehicle with more advanced forms of driver assistance In which case the only answer is to do away with all safety advanced devices in any non fully autonomous vehicle as they all require a minimum level of input from the user in order to work, and as such they are subject to misuse and abuse. And the more idiot proof you make them, the greater the level of idiot that will develop. Either people are responsible for using things appropriately, or those features should be removed entirely- even if more lives would be saved through their use, than lost through their misuse. It all comes back to what I have long argued- being allowed to obtain a licence and drive a vehicle is a privilege, not a right. The ability to drive the vehicle is the least of the requirements to be allowed to operate one; aptitude & attitude are the most important. People that think that speed limits, BAC (Blood Alcohol Content), not doing burnouts or power slides on public roads doesn't apply to them should never be allowed to drive. Of course if that were the case, then seatbelts, crumple zones, airbags & ABS would never have been developed, let alone all the other safety technologies. Grant Darwin NT |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
It all comes back to what I have long argued- being allowed to obtain a licence and drive a vehicle is a privilege, not a right. The ability to drive the vehicle is the least of the requirements to be allowed to operate one; aptitude & attitude are the most important. People that think that speed limits, BAC (Blood Alcohol Content), not doing burnouts or power slides on public roads doesn't apply to them should never be allowed to drive.Can't speak for the rest of the world but here the dCPC should be mandatory for ALL classes of vehicles not just HGV's. As it has to be renewed every 5 years at a cost, there will be an extra income for the government to maintain roads & increase traffic police numbers - job done! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
No human in the aircraft is an autopilot today. Drone aircraft come in a flavor that does require a pilot, he just may not be on the aircraft. That just reflects poorly on the jury. Jury's are made of people to stupid to get off jury duty. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13752 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Interesting 96% of Norway's power is supplied by Hydro, the remainder through Geothermal & Wind. They also import some power that is produced using fossil fuels, however they are a net exporter of electricity (2016 they imported 5,741 GWh, and exported 22,151 GWh). Statistics Norway, electricity Grant Darwin NT |
Kevin Olley Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 906 Credit: 261,085,289 RAC: 572 |
Interesting Slightly off topic but I saw somewhere on the BBC website that some warehouses are now using Hydrogen fuel cell powered drones for stock control purposes, fast refuel times and longer flight time compared with batteries, Hydrogen as a fuel is not dependent on long recharge times, has more power for weight than batteries and can be generated at low power use times, it has also got a fairly low power loss. Kevin |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22231 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
To stream or not to stream, that is the question: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44574290 (I'd suggest "not") Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Sadly, seen a fair amount of that on our roads. :-( |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Sadly, seen a fair amount of that on our roads. :-( See it every day. It isn't going to stop until use of a phone while driving is made a crime. Not a ticket, a crime. Reckless driving, like drink driving. You get to watch your car towed away while you sit in handcuffs in the back of a police car. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Not just phones. :-( Had several occasions on the A14 where truck drivers were watching films on a laptop. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30698 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://apnews.com/852170d278a6451d8ed1bc14a1eed8ce/BNSF:-Estimated-230,000-gallons-of-oil-spilled-in-derailment DOON, Iowa (AP) — An estimated 230,000 gallons (870,619 liters) of crude oil spilled into floodwaters in the northwestern corner of Iowa following a train derailment, a railroad official said Saturday. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Another drinking driver that was lucky beyond belief. Video shows woman walking away after car goes airborne, crashes into gas pumps. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Wondered why the traffic was building up too quick here. Hope no fatalities ( only 2 minutes to A47). Bus & Truck incident |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That report has been updated. Looking at that 2nd photo, some serious questions need to be asked. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Report just updated further. Sadly, 2 passengers have lost their lives. Bretts the transport company involved have declined to comment, while First Bus has stated it was one of theirs but no further comment was forthcoming. |
Kevin Olley Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 906 Credit: 261,085,289 RAC: 572 |
Tachograph and on board Telematics in the truck will tell all, but probably the only clue we will get is if the truck driver is arrested and charged. Kevin |
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