Transportation Safety 3

Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 119 · 120 · 121 · 122 · 123 · 124 · 125 . . . 189 · Next

AuthorMessage
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19402
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 2089035 - Posted: 26 Nov 2021, 13:05:28 UTC

Missing the point: Man in Germany drives to driving test
BERLIN (AP) — A man in Germany has discovered the hard way that it’s best to get a driving license first before trying to use it.

Police in Bergheim, near Cologne, said Tuesday that the 37-year-old drove himself to his driving test, parking an Opel Zafira outside the test center in front of an astonished examiner.

They said he told police officers who were called to the scene on Monday that he had only driven because he wanted to make sure to get to the driving test on time.

His test was immediately called off. The man now faces an investigation for driving without a license. Police also opened an investigation of the car’s owner.
ID: 2089035 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 36826
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 2089064 - Posted: 26 Nov 2021, 21:14:37 UTC

Oh them low bridges.

The eye-watering cost of repairs on one of Melbourne’s most notorious truck traps has been revealed for the first time.

It’s the infamous bridge that has become notorious for truck crashes, hoarded its own fan pages and developed into a longstanding – albeit affectionate – joke for Victorians.

The Montague St Bridge may as well hold a national record for the number of times it has been crashed into by trucks, buses and mini-vans, recording five crashes this year alone.

But it is another figure that has caused eyes to water, with revelations the collisions cost the economy an up to $900,000 each year.

“For every bridge strike that occurs, we estimate a cost of $100,000,” Victorian Public Transport Minister Ben Carol told 3AW radio.

“That is based on the 45-minute delay to traffic, including freight, but also to the impact it has on those public transport passengers that have often had to have their line cancelled above the bridge.

“That’s fairly conservative too because often we have to get the emergency services vehicles out and firefighters.”

Trucks have smashed into the bridge five times this year, and it has reportedly been struck at least 100 times since 2009.

In recent years, trucks have had their roofs, walls and doors ripped off or become completely stuck under the three-metre, low-level bridge, as overly-confident, or downright dim, drivers charge through without a care for the consequences.

The trend took a dark turn in early 2016 when a bus hit the structure and seriously injured six people....
Cheers.
ID: 2089064 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24912
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2089456 - Posted: 2 Dec 2021, 20:54:23 UTC

I certainly would have.
Derbyshire Police's roads unit suggested he buy a lottery ticket.
Kissed by a guardian angel
ID: 2089456 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13855
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 2089489 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 4:32:08 UTC - in response to Message 2089456.  

I certainly would have.
Derbyshire Police's roads unit suggested he buy a lottery ticket.
Waste of money i reckon- he used up all of his luck getting out of that alive, let alone with just a few scratches.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 2089489 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Dr Who Fan
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 8 Jan 01
Posts: 3346
Credit: 715,342
RAC: 4
United States
Message 2089502 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 8:24:44 UTC - in response to Message 2089456.  
Last modified: 3 Dec 2021, 8:25:45 UTC

Derbyshire Police's roads unit suggested he buy a lottery ticket.


I would say if he was a cat, he just used up 8 of his 9 lives.
ID: 2089502 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 21235
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2089514 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 16:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 2089502.  
Last modified: 3 Dec 2021, 16:27:34 UTC

Derbyshire Police's roads unit suggested he buy a lottery ticket.

I would say if he was a cat, he just used up 8 of his 9 lives.

Or is that the deadly joke? That his driving was so bad that it was a lottery as to whether he was still in this world...

And such drivers are schedule harassed, sleep deprived, bored mindless hypnotic, and unhealthily waiting for their heart attack or stroke from all the Greasy Joe's rushed food stops... And...

We give them 48 tonnes at 100 kmh...

All on less than the minimum wage...

...!


Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2089514 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24912
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2089529 - Posted: 3 Dec 2021, 21:33:19 UTC - in response to Message 2089514.  

Get your facts straight.
No HGV 1 driver is on "minimum wage"
Secondly - 48 Tons?
Really?
What is the maximum weight a HGV can carry?
Vehicles are permitted to operate at weights above 44 tonnes in exceptional circumstances (such as when moving abnormal indivisible loads) but special provisions are in place to deal with such occasions, which can be found in the Road Vehicles (Authorisation of Special Types) (General) Order 2003.
ID: 2089529 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 21235
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2089608 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 15:55:29 UTC - in response to Message 2089529.  
Last modified: 5 Dec 2021, 15:56:57 UTC

Very good to know to not know everything!

By God, any omniscience must be bored out of their existence!!

:-P :-)


So... What's the deal with the expensive dearth of drivers and drivers quitting the job for a better life?

Too many unpaid hours?...


Stay safe folks,
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2089608 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 21235
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2089610 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 16:00:16 UTC

Serious question:

What is the energy content of 44 tonnes @ 100 kmh?

How much TNT is that equivalent to?


Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2089610 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19402
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 2089613 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 16:09:00 UTC - in response to Message 2089610.  
Last modified: 5 Dec 2021, 16:14:26 UTC

Serious question:

What is the energy content of 44 tonnes @ 100 kmh?

How much TNT is that equivalent to?


Stay safe folks!
Martin

I can't be bothered to work it out but
Kinetic Energy = ½ mass * velocity².

don't forget the units are joules, kilogrammes and metres/second

The energy released in an explosion of 1 gram of TNT is approximately 4000 Joules
ID: 2089613 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 22535
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 2089615 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 16:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 2089613.  

Simple
Truck - lots....
Or TNT - enough for a loud bang
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 2089615 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24912
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2089616 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 16:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 2089608.  
Last modified: 5 Dec 2021, 16:50:19 UTC

So... What's the deal with the expensive dearth of drivers and drivers quitting the job for a better life?
Too many unpaid hours?...
No.
1: Lack of facilities.
2: Treatment.
3: Safety.
4: Bureaucratic bovine excrement (see Police & Enforcement thread).
5: Unreasonable deadlines
6: Away from home too long.
7: Cost & dCPC last straw as to why many said to hell with it.

Too many more to list.

It never has been about pay or hours. When working LGV, often hit £20-£24k p/a. HGV 2/1 £28-£34k p/a
Personally, often caused issues with managers. Actual employment was for 7.5 ton driver, however many times HGV2/1 short & got allocated their runs.
Phone blew up as I never turned up (reason 2).
Edit
This has been ongoing LONG before Brexit & Covid. Makes one think does it not?
ID: 2089616 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Dr Who Fan
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 8 Jan 01
Posts: 3346
Credit: 715,342
RAC: 4
United States
Message 2089620 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 16:55:56 UTC

Southwest Airlines passenger jumps from taxiing plane at Phoenix airport
The passenger, identified only as a 30-year-old man, exited the plane from a galley door at the back of the aircraft and briefly locked himself inside a fire station on the tarmac, according to FOX 10 in Phoenix.

ID: 2089620 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24912
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2089623 - Posted: 5 Dec 2021, 17:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 2089620.  

The incident was the latest in a surge in unruly air passengers since the pandemic started.
Last summer, a passenger jumped out of a taxiing plane at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and last week a woman at LAX ran onto the tarmac attempting to wave down a plane.
Karen missed her flight so decided...
ID: 2089623 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Wiggo
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 36826
Credit: 261,360,520
RAC: 489
Australia
Message 2089663 - Posted: 6 Dec 2021, 9:38:45 UTC

Serious question:

What is the energy content of 44 tonnes @ 100 kmh?
Maybe this dashcam footage and pictures will answer your question.

Cheers.
ID: 2089663 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile ML1
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 25 Nov 01
Posts: 21235
Credit: 7,508,002
RAC: 20
United Kingdom
Message 2089717 - Posted: 7 Dec 2021, 2:26:38 UTC - in response to Message 2089663.  

[Truck crashes into the back of traffic, killing people...]

Unfortunately, that is a scenario that is forever repeated...

Can anything be done to avoid that other than taking freight off the general roads?...


Stay safe folks!
Martin
See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)
ID: 2089717 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Profile Gary Charpentier Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 25 Dec 00
Posts: 31012
Credit: 53,134,872
RAC: 32
United States
Message 2089730 - Posted: 7 Dec 2021, 5:43:05 UTC - in response to Message 2089717.  

[Truck crashes into the back of traffic, killing people...]

Unfortunately, that is a scenario that is forever repeated...

Can anything be done to avoid that other than taking freight off the general roads?...

Isn't the point of autonomous vehicles to prevent that?
ID: 2089730 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
W-K 666 Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 19402
Credit: 40,757,560
RAC: 67
United Kingdom
Message 2089735 - Posted: 7 Dec 2021, 6:32:10 UTC - in response to Message 2089717.  

[Truck crashes into the back of traffic, killing people...]

Unfortunately, that is a scenario that is forever repeated...

Can anything be done to avoid that other than taking freight off the general roads?...


Stay safe folks!
Martin

You are not going to get general freight on to the railways or even water transport in some cases. The calculations on the break even point between road and rail, and there are differing methods to calculate this, would indicate the minimum distance is about 400 km. And for that to happen the freight has to be untouched and in one container for the whole journey.

Also in some cases the distance traveled would increase as the freight might have to go 'backwards' to and from the nearest rail terminals.
ID: 2089735 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Sirius B Project Donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Dec 00
Posts: 24912
Credit: 3,081,182
RAC: 7
Ireland
Message 2089743 - Posted: 7 Dec 2021, 10:25:33 UTC - in response to Message 2089735.  

Also, don't forget the final 2 links in the chain - Shops & Customers.
Often did what we called stock runs. Store approx. half the load & 6/8 drops in homes.
Road haulage will always be needed.
Then again we can always go "backwards". How about using a horse & cart. :-)
ID: 2089743 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 22535
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 2089746 - Posted: 7 Dec 2021, 11:03:32 UTC - in response to Message 2089743.  

Didn't one of the London breweries use horse and dray until quite recently for deliveries in and around the City of London?
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 2089746 · Report as offensive     Reply Quote
Previous · 1 . . . 119 · 120 · 121 · 122 · 123 · 124 · 125 . . . 189 · Next

Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.