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Message 2081638 - Posted: 5 Aug 2021, 1:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 2081509.  

Looks like Aldi and Lidl special buys have arrived
Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care
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Message 2081926 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 13:42:04 UTC

Not long back from what should have been a quick short trip to the shops. Got stopped by a couple as the guy not sure of himself in recognising me but certain of my voice. At one point we were crewmates on the Met. Over a coffee, glad that he had just retired, told of some "interesting" events on the line since I transferred to the Central (1976).
No need to mention them but he did mention a fairly recent one which reminded me of several similar ones. The difference on this one was that it was NOT an Underground train but a mainline one.

Mainline units use AWS. However, that does not work between Amersham & Neasden as Chiltern Railways use LU track. There was a SPAD. This one had an "extra" component. Driver reset tripcock. Now that is correct however, then as now, that has to be authorised. Gave a shake of the head & his wife commented "Don't you find that worrisome? Not really, we've seen worse". He sent me the link to the report.
SPAD & Trip reset
There is a lot there that I can comment on but I'm only going to mention one - fatigue.

I cannot speak for mainline, or even modern LU working.
The railway unions fought hard & long to introduce the 8 hour shift & 12 hour rest between shifts.
Move on 20+ years & I did worry about what I heard.
I used to travel daily between here & Cambridge but had to change at Ely. Often had enough time to shoot across to the other platform & grab a coffee.
The cafe owner was a former driver & came off after constantly being pressurised into RDW (Rest Day Working) & overtime when relieving crew unavailable.
Move on another 20+ years...
...sheesh.
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Message 2081931 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 14:38:07 UTC - in response to Message 2081926.  
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... And going off the rails...

We have our present government 'relaxing' road haulage driver's maximum hours to allow operators to push drivers that extra hour each day for a few extra miles...

All upon the excuse of a shortage of drivers and gaps on the supermarket shelves and common sense and safety be damned.


All compounded by:

Note also how the countrywide distribution 'model' has been pushed into using mega-huge 'central' warehouses to minimize costs by taking advantage of cheap transport and integrated accounting tax concessions...


Meanwhile, my local 'old-style' local food shops seem to be unaffected for their local produce. However, that cannot feed the hungry wasteful marauding hords of city dwellers...

(And I do wonder just how much food gets wasted by the online deliveries repeat-click junkies getting the same repeat deliveries regardless of what might still be left lost in the fridge from the previous week...)


All in our only one financially greedy world!
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Message 2081933 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 15:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 2081931.  
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... And going off the rails...
We have our present government 'relaxing' road haulage driver's maximum hours to allow operators to push drivers that extra hour each day for a few extra miles...
True & also true for management. However, the worst culprit are drivers themselves
I believe I mentioned this fact in the cafe some years ago.
"I used to ensure that come Wed that I retired for the night early so that I was rested enough to cover the rest of the week knowing that there would be a 5/6/7 hour sleep pattern on the cards". Yet...
21 The driver was not rostered to work on the day before the incident. The driver stated that he had a quiet day around the house and went to bed around 23:00 hrs, waking several times in the night, before finally waking at about 06:00 hrs on the day of the incident. He left home for work at around 14:00 hrs.
There were several incidents where turning up on a Thurs morning, got chastised by fellow drivers for being too cheerful & playing some nice tracks in the car (Shaggy 's "The train is coming" or Riley & Durrant trance instrumentals).
Edited to remove wrong & insert correct paragraph.
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Message 2081949 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 19:39:56 UTC

Getting tired & hates August...
Tower Bridge stuck open
...are we seeing a new London event on the tourist's calendar?

Sometimes, a driver just has no involvement with cause of delays.
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Message 2081960 - Posted: 9 Aug 2021, 21:00:27 UTC

I can picture some interesting "coyote & roadrunner" type artwork that could be put onto those raised roadway sections that are seen through those arches. :-D
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Message 2082428 - Posted: 16 Aug 2021, 16:49:17 UTC
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Tesla Autopilot: US opens official investigation into self-driving tech
The US federal agency in charge of road safety is opening an official investigation into Tesla's "self-driving" Autopilot system.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said it was acting following 11 Tesla crashes since 2018 involving emergency vehicles.
In some cases, the Tesla vehicles "crashed directly into the vehicles of first responders", it said.
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The agency was primarily concerned with an apparent inability of Tesla vehicles to cope with vehicles stopped in the road - specifically emergency vehicles attending an incident.
Among the list of cases was one where a Tesla "ploughed into the rear" of a parked fire engine attending an accident, and another in which a parked police car was struck.
The NHTSA said it was opening its preliminary investigation into "the technologies and methods used to monitor, assist, and enforce the driver's engagement", while using Autopilot.
It said that in the 11 crashes that prompted its investigation, either Autopilot or a system called Traffic Aware Cruise Control had been active "just prior" to the collisions.


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In one case in California last month, a Tesla car sped through a road closure into an empty police car. In another crash in Michigan, a Tesla hit a police car with its emergency lights on after an officer had stopped to investigate a collision.
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Message 2082442 - Posted: 16 Aug 2021, 20:39:41 UTC

Tesla made a big mistake by calling their adaptive cruise and control system "Autopilot" IMHO as it's certainly a misleading term in their case.

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Message 2082460 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 0:22:54 UTC - in response to Message 2082428.  

And I wonder how many of these Tesla drivers involved in the crashes were impaired by drugs/alchohol or were inattentive to the road.
Probably most of not all of them.
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Message 2082477 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 7:24:48 UTC - in response to Message 2082442.  
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Tesla made a big mistake by calling their adaptive cruise and control system "Autopilot" IMHO as it's certainly a misleading term in their case.
The problem is that it's an appropraite name- as in it performs the very same functions as an aircraft autopilot- it assists the driver/pilot of the car/aircraft.
It is not there to do all the work for them or to replace them, it is there to assist them to drive/fly the vehicle/aircraft.

The fact that many people are ignorant, and choose to remain so, means they probably would have been better served to call it Driver Assistant, even though calling it Auto Pilot is technically correct.
I downloaded a Tesla owners manual after previous accidents, and all through the manual where it goes through all of the Auto Pilot functions if repeatedly points out that the driver is the one in charge & responsible for the control of the car and needs to be ready to take back full control of the car at any time.
So for all of the incidents being investigated, the driver obviously either didn't bother reading the manual, or thought it didn't apply to them.
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Message 2082483 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 9:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 2082477.  

...or, as in at least one case, thought their car had Auto Pilot when it didn't. Apparently some Tesla have (or have had) the controls to activate/deactivate the Auto Pilot function in the display when the system is not installed, which strikes me as a somewhat lax situation if true.
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Message 2082510 - Posted: 17 Aug 2021, 14:56:03 UTC - in response to Message 2082483.  
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...or, as in at least one case, thought their car had Auto Pilot when it didn't. Apparently some Tesla have (or have had) the controls to activate/deactivate the Auto Pilot function in the display when the system is not installed, which strikes me as a somewhat lax situation if true.

Yes and sometimes dangerously so and all in the game of Marketing:

The trickery of making menu options visible but disabled/inoperative has long been exploited to hugely profitable effect. Infamously for just one example by such as "Microsoft Office" to add a 'nag factor' from users for their company to pay for (rarely used) extra functionality...


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Message 2082969 - Posted: 24 Aug 2021, 16:03:17 UTC

Good thing he wasn't flying anything larger...

Cop drone crashes into flight instructor's airplane
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Message 2083075 - Posted: 26 Aug 2021, 16:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 2083074.  

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Message 2083851 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 20:21:09 UTC

Proof that rappers should never be let behind a wheel?

Rapper crashes flying Tesla into building.

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Message 2083856 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 22:04:44 UTC

Italian lunatic flies aeroplane through two motorway tunnels
Sponsor Red Bull supposedly gives you wings, but that doesn't mean you have to use them everywhere

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Message 2083857 - Posted: 6 Sep 2021, 22:11:24 UTC
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On a slightly related theme to my last post & linked to in previous article......
Wingwalker plane crashes in Poole Harbour after air festival display
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