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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31106 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Pakistan Airlines plane crash: At least two of the 98 on board survive as A320 plunges into crowded Karachi suburb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwfkN5M-bSY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFhGnCOtcc8 so sad. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31106 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
PIA A320 PK 8303 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6SYmp3qb3uO4U-LbbWgiFfBc-7HdvT6N There is a lot of discussion about this particular accident on various aviation forums. After about 5 days, it is fairly clear what happened, but not Why ? It is certainly a very bizarre accident. The approach was too high, too fast, and the landing gear was almost certainly UP when Both Engines were scraped along the runway for a few thousand metres or yards. The engines both failed due to the damage, while the aircraft was in the circuit for a second approach. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3385 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
When will they learn? Man tracks girlfriend’s phone to jail, both charged with DWI, Arlington police say A man who tracked his girlfriend’s phone to the Arlington Police Department was arrested on a DWI charge after showing up intoxicated at the jail, where she was being held on the same charge, police said Friday. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31106 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
When will they learn?It is called felony stupid for a reason. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3385 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Lol... Woman scolds mom for letting kids drive toy car without a license “These kids are driving all over the place!†the woman complains in the footage posted on TikTok.... |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3385 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Driver dies after being ejected when dump truck flipped on north Fort Worth freeway ... when his truck rolled over and he was ejected, according to authorities. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13878 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
light-plane crash at Yarram The 17-year-old piloting the plane only suffered minor scratches. Grant Darwin NT |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22645 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Woops! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53076806 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24921 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13878 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
There are times when it's better not to blend in, Grant Darwin NT |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11438 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
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Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3385 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
https://www.facebook.com/bruce.quanz/posts/2701212920159074 The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in. |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
Interim Accident Report (PDF) https://www.caapakistan.com.pk/Upload/SIBReports/AAIB-431.pdf Discussions in Pakistan and UK based forums. https://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=198940 https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/632693-pia-a320-crash-karachi.html |
Keith T. Send message Joined: 23 Aug 99 Posts: 962 Credit: 537,293 RAC: 9 |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13878 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Interim Accident Report (PDF)Yeah, that just boggles the mind. That sort of behaviour by the cockpit flight crew shows that it wasn't just a one off event- it would have been going on for some time & a sign of serious work culture issues there. If you ever need to need to fly in Pakistan, put PIA at the bottom of your list. Grant Darwin NT |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22645 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It certainly looks like a systemic issue :-( What confuses me is they had the undercarriage down, then retracted it before the skid-and-go. That crew had really lost awareness of what was going on with the plane :-( (Isn't part of the pre-landing checklist "check three greens", with response "three greens"?) There was a bit of sloppiness in some of the controller's communications, but that is no excuse for the pilot-flying not just announcing a go-around when he (should have) realised that they were too high/fast. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31106 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistan-international-airlines-grounds-150-pilots-bogus-licenses-deadly-crash-flight-8303-karachi/ Pakistan International Airlines grounds 150 pilots over "bogus" licenses after deadly crash You mean they continued to let them fly for months after they knew they had fake licenses? |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22645 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
That's not just the odd one, that's a third of their pilots. Forgery on an industrial scale coupled with corporate greed and blindness. The whole management structure of that company should be standing up and not only doing the Japanese "Apology of Honour", but following up with the other Japanese "act of honour". One has to ask how many ex-PIA "pilots" with similar licences are now employed by other airlines having got a decent number hours with a national carrier, and how other airlines check the validity of an applicants licence. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31106 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
That's not just the odd one, that's a third of their pilots. Forgery on an industrial scale coupled with corporate greed and blindness. One has to wonder if Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines and the rest of the third world airline have any better then PIA. |
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