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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The California Zephyr takes 51 hours (on a good day). Anybody that signs up for a 51 hour ride, when the air trip would be 6 or 7 hours at roughly the same price, is not worried about arrivaling on time. ![]() ![]() |
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I know that America is 3000 miles wide, but I just find it ironic that trains can arrive hours or even days late, and people just accept it. America's urban trains may have better on time performance than the UK system. You don't hear about that because you don't consider them trains. In WWII America built airplanes. They didn't stop when the war was over and they had lots of land to build lots of airports. Who is going to take a multi-day train ride those 3000+ miles when they can hop a plane and be done in time to see eat dinner and catch a show? Oh as to distance, that would be you getting on a train in London and arriving in New York. Oh as to accept it, you have noticed how many take the train and how many take the plane? Maybe the market forces are at work? ![]() |
David S ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 ![]() ![]() |
I know that America is 3000 miles wide, but I just find it ironic that trains can arrive hours or even days late, and people just accept it. The problem is that people are also taking planes for distances where they should be taking trains. That's not just the market, it's also government policy over the last 60+ years favoring air and highway over rail. The government policy, in turn, is influenced by the lobbies for air and highway being fueled by big business, whereas the big business of railroads mostly wants to stay out of the passenger market, unless they see an opportunity to get public funding for major infrastructure work on their property. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
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Well borrowing a line from"The go between" by LP Hartley "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there" America really is a foreign country and has been shown in many threads not least this one "they really do do things differently there" (Of course it works both ways) |
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The past is the rock we all stand on! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
Quickly back to trains To try and demonstrate differences and find and excuse to post these type of pictures :-) Here are a few. well slightly scenic pics; ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There is no way I could ever see as much of the US as I would like except by train, perhaps people can begin to understand my fascination with these long distance travelling hotels. I just hope I have enough time left to one day travel through scenery like that on a train. |
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A reason Amtrak is running late http://abc7news.com/news/2-hurt-after-amtrak-train-hits-vehicle-in-orwood/949868/ ORWOOD, Calif. (KGO) -- ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
Ever had one of those days? To get my camera pictures of Amtrak services I rely on the Amtrak "track a train" app on their website, while not 100% accurate by looking at times and places I have a good idea when a train will pass Chesterton or Chicago. So today I look at the 29 and 49 and see that not only aren't they where they say they are but the times all look wrong. Looking at a few other trains it is obvious that Amtrak are having problems with the "track a train" function. So I that means with actually no idea when the 29 and 49 will pass the camera I have to have the Chesterton camera on and just record every time the gates go down. Fine get the 29 OK, then of course the Chesterton camera fails completely both east and west! Fardles!! Obviously not a day for train watching. :-( |
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There is no way I could ever see as much of the US as I would like except by train, perhaps people can begin to understand my fascination with these long distance travelling hotels. I'd love to take a real excursion train. The only thing I have in my neck of the woods is a dinner train that goes through some scruffy forest, and then backs up. :~( Here's someone's review: http://www.louisvillefamilyfun.net/2012/12/review-of-my-old-kentucky-dinner-train.html ![]() |
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So I that means with actually no idea when the 29 and 49 will pass the camera I have to have the Chesterton camera on and just record every time the gates go down. At least you got to see the 29. Not a complete wash. Hope the cameras come back up quick. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
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There is no way I could ever see as much of the US as I would like except by train, perhaps people can begin to understand my fascination with these long distance travelling hotels. Sometime in the next couple summers, I'm going to retrace the trip we took in December 1963. California Zephyr to Chicago, then up to Milwaukee to see some relatives. Back down to Chicago, then the Santa Fe Chief to LA, then back home on the San Joaquin Daylight. Also want to take the Coast Daylight from San Diego all the way to Seattle (never been there, they tell me it's nice). Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
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There is no way I could ever see as much of the US as I would like except by train, perhaps people can begin to understand my fascination with these long distance travelling hotels. Now that is the sort of trip I would like to take. For me it would be Lakeshore NY to Chicago, then the Zephyr to SF. Then the decision whether to go north or south from SF!! I think I would probably take the Coast Starlight to Seattle, then the Empire Builder back to Chicago. I think that would be my "dream trip". |
Monday ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Sep 05 Posts: 9676 Credit: 20,067,888 RAC: 12 ![]() ![]() |
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Monday ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Sep 05 Posts: 9676 Credit: 20,067,888 RAC: 12 ![]() ![]() |
A little picture search says its a B class belonging to Consolidated Rail Leasing (CRL)and looks so good because it was recently rebuilt in Bendigo. Edit Crazy racoon lady lol, good pick up Vic. |
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Love it! ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
A little more info 1 of 6 B class purchased by West Coast Railway. Was later swapped with GM19 from Great Northern Rail, with GNR folding B75 was sold to four members of Yarra Valley Railway, sold to SSR/CRL Early 2011. Not Operated by any of these operators yet. So yes it is indeed based on the EMD F unit, except a bit like the UK a lot of Australian locomotives had double cabs, means you never need a turntable or even a "wye" Very nice looking machine. |
Monday ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Sep 05 Posts: 9676 Credit: 20,067,888 RAC: 12 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks Bernie, that info is great. Arent I lucky to have such a fabulous locomotive living just one mile down the road. @Chris I like the double cabin design, its my favourite design. They always look like they are going the right way. |
David S ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 ![]() ![]() |
Not good for Amtrak. Beech Grove Shop worker burned. A reliable source (but who did not cite a public report) says he was ordered to weld a fuel tank and it exploded, he was burned over 85% of his body, and he died Sunday morning. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31260 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Not good for Amtrak. Beech Grove Shop worker burned. A reliable source (but who did not cite a public report) says he was ordered to weld a fuel tank and it exploded, he was burned over 85% of his body, and he died Sunday morning. No. That will come down on them like a ton of lead bricks dropped from a mile high. Talk about an explosive event. I feel for his family. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 ![]() ![]() |
For those who missed last weeks Iowa Pacific feature (yes I know you can scroll up/down to see to but wheres the fun in that!!) here is a slightly different repeat performance. Of course since it was turned on the wye last week, it is now facing the other way with SLRG 4137 and the dome "leading" ![]() Which puts SLRG 4135 on the other end ![]() With one of my favoutite pairs of PV The Patrick Henry Creative Promotions train(Yes I have mentioned these before as well, bit like TV lots of repeats) ![]() The dome and diner. Warren R Henry named after his father. Who apparently worked for the Santa Fe railroad for 40 years hence his sons, interest in railroads. ![]() And the Evelyn Henry sleeper named after his mother You can see the insides and read all about them here Patrick Henry Creative Promotions Train All yours from just $9,750 a day!! PS Linked fixed. |
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