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Message 1865288 - Posted: 3 May 2017, 4:54:25 UTC - in response to Message 1865263.  

How many US states is tribal states?

Igor, that is not a valid question, it is sort of like asking " when did you quite hitting your wife?"
All this theme about reservations is not interesting for me.

That may be true but when you live next to one you would realize they are a very unique subset and not part of a homogeneous political body.

Please,
Igor probably meant indigenous nations.
Yes there are many in the US.
But they don't have any political power like indigenous nations in Europe and Asia has.

They have absolute sovereignty. Local police officers from state, county, city can not enter their land without permission.
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Message 1865296 - Posted: 3 May 2017, 5:38:05 UTC - in response to Message 1865288.  
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How many US states is tribal states?

Igor, that is not a valid question, it is sort of like asking " when did you quite hitting your wife?"
All this theme about reservations is not interesting for me.

That may be true but when you live next to one you would realize they are a very unique subset and not part of a homogeneous political body.

Please,
Igor probably meant indigenous nations.
Yes there are many in the US.
But they don't have any political power like indigenous nations in Europe and Asia has.

They have absolute sovereignty. Local police officers from state, county, city can not enter their land without permission.

Absolute sovereignty?
You mean jurisdiction?
Here in Europe and Russia we don't have that "problem":)
Both in Sweden and Finland we don't have a law against trespassing.
Only a law a that you cannot make laws Against trespassers:)
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Message 1865357 - Posted: 3 May 2017, 13:41:53 UTC - in response to Message 1865296.  

How many US states is tribal states?

Igor, that is not a valid question, it is sort of like asking " when did you quite hitting your wife?"
All this theme about reservations is not interesting for me.

That may be true but when you live next to one you would realize they are a very unique subset and not part of a homogeneous political body.

Please,
Igor probably meant indigenous nations.
Yes there are many in the US.
But they don't have any political power like indigenous nations in Europe and Asia has.

They have absolute sovereignty. Local police officers from state, county, city can not enter their land without permission.

Absolute sovereignty?
You mean jurisdiction?
No Sovereignty. Their border is a border, like between USA and Canada.
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Message 1865360 - Posted: 3 May 2017, 14:06:07 UTC - in response to Message 1865357.  
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Absolute sovereignty?
You mean jurisdiction?
No Sovereignty. Their border is a border, like between USA and Canada.

I see.
But borders?
Here in Russia, Finland,Norway and Sweden we have the nation Sápmi.
Sápmi spreads throughout Cap of the North, from the Russian Kola peninsula to the east to the Swedish landscape of Dalarna in the south.
No borders here.
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Message 1865425 - Posted: 3 May 2017, 20:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 1865360.  

Absolute sovereignty?
You mean jurisdiction?
No Sovereignty. Their border is a border, like between USA and Canada.

I see.
But borders?
Here in Russia, Finland,Norway and Sweden we have the nation Sápmi.
Sápmi spreads throughout Cap of the North, from the Russian Kola peninsula to the east to the Swedish landscape of Dalarna in the south.
No borders here.


Janneseti,

It is a difficult concept to put into words... Let's see...

The various Native American tribes in North America, before the arrival of Columbus and the subsequent European invasion of North America, were independent nations. The UK then later the US Government entered into Treaties with these Nations which were subsequently broken multiple times by both the UK and the USA during expansion.

The British Colonies, then later the USA fought a series of Wars with the various Native American Nations.

Currently, the US Federal Government currently has suzerainty over them due to the military victories against them, but has not completely abolished them.

Their status is VERY similar to that of Protectorates.
A protectorate, in its inception adopted by modern international law, is a dependent territory that has been granted local autonomy and some independence while still retaining the suzerainty of a greater sovereign state.


Some level of sovereignty remains to them, but they are under the authority of the US Federal Government, but NOT under the authority of the various States that their tribal lands (reservations) are located in.

Their level of sovereignty lies somewhere between the States, and the US Federal Government.

US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall established, under the law, Tribal Sovereignty for the various Native American Tribes in his opinions on the following three US Supreme Court cases: Johnson v. M'Intosh (1823), Cherokee Nation v. Georgia (1832), and Worcester v. Georgia (1832). He also used the phrase "Domestic Dependent Nations" in describing them.

The question of primacy between State Law and Tribal Law on Tribal Lands was cleared up in favor of Tribal Law having primacy in the US Supreme Court case Bryan v. Itasca County (1976) in an unanimous opinion (9 to 0).
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Message 1865522 - Posted: 4 May 2017, 11:41:28 UTC

Has the US forgot about their Arctic region?
U.S. Coast Guard Chief Warns of Russian ‘Checkmate’ in Arctic
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/03/u-s-coast-guard-chief-warns-of-russian-checkmate-in-arctic-military-high-north/
Paul Zukunft, commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard, warned Russia was building up a huge military and industrial presence in the region while the United States dawdled. Russia is showing “I’m here first, and everyone else, you’re going to be playing catch-up for a generation to catch up to me first,” said Zukunft in remarks before the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “They’ve made a strategic statement,” he said.
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Message 1865545 - Posted: 4 May 2017, 14:45:58 UTC
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Two Russian Bear bombers -- escorted for the first time by a pair of Su-35 "Flanker" fighter jets -- entered Alaska's Air Defense Zone early Thursday morning, U.S. officials told Fox News.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/04/russian-bombers-fighter-jets-fly-near-alaska-prompting-air-force-escort.html
It was the first time the U.S. Air Force has seen advanced Russian Su-35 fighter jets escort Russian Cold War-era bombers near Alaska.
https://sputniknews.com/us/201705041053280141-us-alaska-russia-jets/
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Message 1865554 - Posted: 4 May 2017, 15:29:26 UTC

Janneseti,

Your last 2 posts to this thread, about the US Coast Guard's difficulties in the Arctic and about the bomber/fighter incident are all the more reason why the USA really needs to cozy up to Putin & Russia.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Message 1865562 - Posted: 4 May 2017, 16:18:42 UTC - in response to Message 1865554.  

Your last 2 posts to this thread, about the US Coast Guard's difficulties in the Arctic and about the bomber/fighter incident are all the more reason why the USA really needs to cozy up to Putin & Russia.

Cozy up:) Sounds like tucking in kids for the night.
Anyway. Hopefully both Trump and Putin leave this matter to Rex Tillerson and Sergey Lavrov to solve.
To me it seems that both of the Foreign Ministers of the US and Russia have some sense.
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Message 1866029 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 13:56:25 UTC - in response to Message 1866008.  

Janneseti,

Your last 2 posts to this thread, about the US Coast Guard's difficulties in the Arctic and about the bomber/fighter incident are all the more reason why the USA really needs to cozy up to Putin & Russia.

And what do we give, trade or allow [cozy] Putin to control. In order for the USA control the Arctic, and its rich resources?

Guessing PAX Americana and the Post WWII Era has come to an end. As all Era's do.

Fun while it lasted.


As a gesture of friendship? <grin>Continental Europe</grin>
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Message 1866033 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 14:27:21 UTC - in response to Message 1866032.  

Who knows. Perhaps we are entering a New Era. Perhaps it will be called the Tripartite Empire's Age. China, Russia, and The USA as the Dominate, for Their Regions, Empires.

And the Caliphate?
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Message 1866044 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 15:30:57 UTC - in response to Message 1866036.  

Who knows. Perhaps we are entering a New Era. Perhaps it will be called the Tripartite Empire's Age. China, Russia, and The USA as the Dominate, for Their Regions, Empires.

And the Caliphate?

#1 - They don't have the Military Power to reclaim.

Perhaps not. But the US army has left the building.
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Message 1866096 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 20:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 1866092.  
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Unfortunately, if I was a Muslim. I would leave as soon as possible.

Why?
Do you know how many muslims that are living in France and Germany today?
They are MANY.
And in my country.

As-salamu Alaikum.
The answer should be Wa Aleikum As-salam:)
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Message 1866110 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 21:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1866098.  

Cultures and Peoples, when they become very scared. Usually revert to...

True Clyde.
You only have to look at Russia's obsession of culture and history that is also an obsession of Putin.
And when the history telling has been distorted...
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Message 1866113 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 21:15:05 UTC - in response to Message 1866112.  

Cultures and Peoples, when they become very scared. Usually revert to...

True Clyde.
You only have to look at Russia's obsession of culture and history that is also an obsession of Putin.
And when the history telling has been distorted...

Or...
The distorted history. Is one that a Culture and its People wish to believe.

That's also very true.
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Message 1866134 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 22:24:13 UTC
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The Geopolitical Future of Russia is a geopolitical book by Aleksandr Dugin. The book has had a large influence within the Russian military, police, and foreign policy elites[1] and was allegedly used as a textbook in the General Staff Academy of Russian military.[1]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
It seems however that Aleksandr Dugin doesn't have so much influence in Kremlin anymore.
But his ideas are very much implemented in Kremlin.
Alex Jones has the story. LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4YM3XJDEK0
One American "journalist" and one Russian "historian/former Kremlin advisor" at the same time:)
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Message 1866143 - Posted: 7 May 2017, 23:12:00 UTC

Well Putin certainly failed at trying to swing the French election in his favour. LOL

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Message 1866154 - Posted: 8 May 2017, 1:44:12 UTC - in response to Message 1866032.  

Janneseti,

Your last 2 posts to this thread, about the US Coast Guard's difficulties in the Arctic and about the bomber/fighter incident are all the more reason why the USA really needs to cozy up to Putin & Russia.

And what do we give, trade or allow [cozy] Putin to control. In order for the USA control the Arctic, and its rich resources?

Guessing PAX Americana and the Post WWII Era has come to an end. As all Era's do.

Fun while it lasted.


As a gesture of friendship? <grin>Continental Europe</grin>

Thinking more in terms regarding the old borders of the Soviet Union, and domination (occupation?) of 'Eastern' Europe.

Who knows. Perhaps we are entering a New Era. Perhaps it will be called the Tripartite Empire's Age. China, Russia, and The USA as the Dominate, for Their Regions, Empires.


Clyde,

I said Continental Europe and meant it, not the old Warsaw Pact Eastern Europe that the USSR lost when it collapsed.

Something like this, especially since you mentioned the Tripartite Empires (China, Russia, and USA, or more to the point, Eastasia, Eurasia, and Oceania)...




And remember, the person whose writings were the source for that map, Eric Arthur Blair (pen name George Orwell) was British. You had Oceania vs. Eurasia vs. Eastasia in conflict over the resources of the 'disputed' territories. All three had nearly the same political system, Oceania had IngSoc (English Socialism), Eurasia had neo-Bolshevism, Eastasia had 'obliteration of the self'.

I find it very interesting that Blair/Orwell, although himself a socialist, seemed to think that socialism has the inevitable result of winding up a totaltarian/authoritarian government.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Message 1866223 - Posted: 8 May 2017, 9:58:16 UTC - in response to Message 1866143.  
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Well Putin certainly failed at trying to swing the French election in his favour.


Well, one more myth in some western brains...
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Message 1866224 - Posted: 8 May 2017, 10:19:45 UTC - in response to Message 1866223.  

Well Putin certainly failed at trying to swing the French election in his favour.

Well, one more myth in some western brains...

I think It was Le Pen.

Le Pen's political party has been supported in part by Russian banks. Why didn't she seek funds from French banks first? Well, French banks refused to lend money, given her political party's "historic links to white supremacy and anti-Semitism."
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