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Message 1879247 - Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 14:29:54 UTC

Some Russian humor.
Putin visits human rights activist Lyudmila Alexeyeva.


A: "I hope he didn't slip me polonium"
P: I hope she didn't switch the cups"
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Message 1879763 - Posted: 22 Jul 2017, 23:48:35 UTC
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"Clean energy", the Danish and the Russian way, in one single image.

See huge Russian nuclear submarine Dmitrij Donskoj sailing in Danish waters
http://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2017-07-21-se-enorm-russisk-atomubaad-sejle-i-dansk-farvand
According to a Finnish commander, the visit of the submarine can be compared to "an elephant in a porcelain store".
Watch the outfit of the armed guard!

Fishing trip spoiled by nuclear powered battle cruiser Pyotr Velikiy
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Message 1879817 - Posted: 23 Jul 2017, 1:57:14 UTC - in response to Message 1879807.  

According to a Finnish commander, the visit of the submarine can be compared to "an elephant in a porcelain store".

The English, or perhaps American English equivalent is...
A bull in a china shop.

China shop:)
Well. China are also here in the Baltic Sea paying a visit to Russia
A fleet of Chinese warships is heading towards the Baltic Sea to participate in the first Russian-Chinese military exercise ever in Sweden's absolute vicinity.
Among the crafts is one of China's most advanced military ships - "052D Destroyer".


Welcome to the Baltic Sea:)
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Message 1880037 - Posted: 24 Jul 2017, 9:26:07 UTC

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Message 1880053 - Posted: 24 Jul 2017, 13:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 1880037.  

Are NATO members and de facto NATO members like Sweden and Finland welcome to participate?
Hehe:)
I see that Serbia will participate.
Since Sweden now have given a lot of classified information to Serbia and some other eastern countries.
Why not?
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201707241055825496-sweden-data-leak/
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Message 1881321 - Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 10:07:10 UTC
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Let the Army Games 2017 begin.
http://armygames2017.mil.ru/armygames_news_en
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgeuJdFoKw
Oh. Greece (NATO) will participate as well in the Sniper Frontier contest.
Syria! in the Sniper Frontier and the Depth contest.
Israel in the Field Kitchen contest together with many other countries.
http://armygames2017.mil.ru/field_kitchen_en
My guess is that China will win that:)

Most popular contest is the Tank Biathlon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy87Z1eRcCo
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Message 1881519 - Posted: 1 Aug 2017, 11:06:41 UTC
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The Navy Parade in Saint Petersburg: Nothing Like This Has Happened Before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENOJCgufLY
"Manna Reling!" (Navy Salute)
Manning the rail!

ура, ура, ура :)
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Message 1881643 - Posted: 2 Aug 2017, 15:21:12 UTC - in response to Message 1881629.  


Just Putin showing off his 'Might'. Prior to Russian expansion.[/quote]
Of course it is.
I don't know about the Russian expansion but Russians do have a faiblesse trying to recreate the Russian Empire from hundred of years ago.
And if so many countries around the Baltic Sea are in trouble.
For some weird reason Russia thinks the Baltic Sea is theirs and can do everything they want here.
Sorry Vova. There are 8 other countries around it that think otherwise!

ура, ура, ура :)
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Message 1881665 - Posted: 2 Aug 2017, 17:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 1881650.  

Does Putin fear the Military Capabilities of these 8 nations.

Apparently. Russia's military buildup around the Baltic Sea has increased very much the last years.
According to Russia it's a response to NATO's buildup.
It's the Cold War all over again...
Let's say that Germany, Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania left NATO.
Would Russia de-escalate?
I don't think so...
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Message 1881700 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 0:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 1881690.  

Does Putin fear the Military Capabilities of these 8 nations.

Apparently. Russia's military buildup around the Baltic Sea has increased very much the last years.
According to Russia it's a response to NATO's buildup.
It's the Cold War all over again...
Let's say that Germany, Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania left NATO.
Would Russia de-escalate?
I don't think so...

Do the American people care about the Baltic Sea. Or willing to go to war with Russia?
It will probably, for good or bad. Be considered a 'European Problem'.
It is just the USA reverting to its Historical Isolationism. The foundation of Trump's and his supporters America First. Is not Xenophobia, nor stopping historically large Legal Immigration, but Isolationism.
Meaning: Stopping unfair Trade Agreement. And letting Europe and Asia solve, what the American people incorrectly believe, are only Europe's and a Asia's problems.

I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Baltic Sea.
I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Baltic Countries.
I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Cap of the North.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_of_the_North
Well thats our 'European Problem'..
So whats is NATO supposed to do?
Backing home to sweet USA?

USA reverting to its Historical Isolationism?
I don't think Trump like that idea:)
His very idea to make USA Great Again is that the Global Economy will follow the US economy.
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Message 1881715 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 1:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 1881707.  
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Misunderstanding of what words mean in a different culture.
Trump's 'Make America Great Again'. Is Pre Pax Americana, and founded (excluding the fading Post WWII world) in the American Culture of Military and Political Isolation.
IE: Russia? China? Your problem.
IE: If you want to trade. If must be fair to both. If not... We go home. Manufacture what we need at home, at a greater price. But greater employment and pay.
BTW: I am not saying I agree. It just is, what it is.
NATO? Treaties throughout history. Are just Gentlemen's Agreement. With no meaning when one or more parties to the agreement. Believes it is not in their best interest.

"Misunderstanding of what words mean in a different culture. "
Perhaps and most likely.
"But a Gentlemen's Agreement works in all different cultures."
Almost I would say...
"Pre Pax Americana."
LOL:) There is no such thing.
"Russia? China? Your problem."
Really:)
"If you want to trade. "
No problem here as far I know.
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Message 1881737 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 4:10:20 UTC - in response to Message 1881707.  

Does Putin fear the Military Capabilities of these 8 nations.

Apparently. Russia's military buildup around the Baltic Sea has increased very much the last years.
According to Russia it's a response to NATO's buildup.
It's the Cold War all over again...
Let's say that Germany, Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania left NATO.
Would Russia de-escalate?
I don't think so...

Do the American people care about the Baltic Sea. Or willing to go to war with Russia?
It will probably, for good or bad. Be considered a 'European Problem'.
It is just the USA reverting to its Historical Isolationism. The foundation of Trump's and his supporters America First. Is not Xenophobia, nor stopping historically large Legal Immigration, but Isolationism.
Meaning: Stopping unfair Trade Agreement. And letting Europe and Asia solve, what the American people incorrectly believe, are only Europe's and a Asia's problems.

I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Baltic Sea.
I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Baltic Countries.
I'm sure that most American people doesn't know anything about the Cap of the North.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_of_the_North
Well thats our 'European Problem'..
So whats is NATO supposed to do?
Backing home to sweet USA?

USA reverting to its Historical Isolationism?
I don't think Trump like that idea:)
His very idea to make USA Great Again is that the Global Economy will follow the US economy.

Misunderstanding of what words mean in a different culture.

Trump's 'Make America Great Again'. Is Pre Pax Americana, and founded (excluding the fading Post WWII world) in the American Culture of Military and Political Isolation.

IE: Russia? China? Your problem.

IE: If you want to trade. If must be fair to both. If not... We go home. Manufacture what we need at home, at a greater price. But greater employment and pay.

BTW: I am not saying I agree. It just is, what it is.

NATO? Treaties throughout history. Are just Gentlemen's Agreement. With no meaning when one or more parties to the agreement. Believes it is not in their best interest.


Trump's post Pax Americana need not be the pre-Pax Americana his supporters, or even some of his non-supporters, wanted/want.
janne may be correct? re: Nafta 2.0 borrowing from "defunct" TPP.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1881749 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 6:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 1881737.  
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janne may be correct? re: Nafta 2.0 borrowing from "defunct" TPP.

Hmm. NAFTA and TPP are not global trade agreements.
How many European or African countries are involved in those agreements?
Yes. None.
NAFTA stands for the North American Free Trade Agreement and is a trade agreement between the United States, Canada and Mexico. NAFTA came into force in 1994.
TPP stands for Trans Pacific Partnership and is a trade agreement between twelve countries in the Pacific region (USA, Canada, Mexico, Peru, Chile, New Zealand, Australia, Brunei, Singapore, Vietnam, Malaysia and Japan)
Negotiations began in 2008 and ended with an agreement in 2015. However, the agreement has not yet entered into force, because it must first be approved by the parliaments of all twelve participating countries.
http://www.kommers.se/nyheter/Forcerade-nyheter/TTP-och-NAFTA--sa-funkar-det/
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Message 1881804 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 11:58:09 UTC - in response to Message 1881793.  

The Pre WWII world appears to be returning.

From I'm learnt from many historians is that they are now telling us that the period between WWI and WWII in Europe was only a long seize fire.
Does that mean that the peace after WWII in Europe is also only a long seize fire?
Well. Since Russia are beefing up their military strength we neighbors start to wonder.
And with both Russia and China as allies...
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Message 1881883 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 17:44:57 UTC
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So many irrational fantasies... But all allegories is lame.
If the WW3 will begin, more probably it will begin as the NATO/USA strike on Russia. Of course, it will be named in NATO/USA as "Preemptive strike" or "Precautionary blow for preventing future aggression" or something like this.
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Message 1881887 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 17:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 1881883.  

So many irrational fantasies... But all allegories is lame.
If the WW3 will begin, it will begin as the NATO/USA attack. Of course, it will be named in NATO/USA as "Preemptive strike" or "Precautionary blow for preventing future aggression" or something like this.


Allegories stuff up my nose and sometimes make me sneeze.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1881894 - Posted: 3 Aug 2017, 18:30:53 UTC - in response to Message 1881883.  

So many irrational fantasies...

Fantasies?
Do you know how close St Petersburg and Kaliningrad are to us Nordic Countries?
Of course not.
Kazakhstan is not even an European Country.

But we Nordic people know very well what Russia would like to do.
Quite simple really.
Read our and the Russian history books and you will get the answer very soon.
Or ask Vova Putin.
He will give you a straight answer!
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Message 1882013 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 9:39:27 UTC - in response to Message 1881930.  
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100% correct.

LOL. Do you really know the history of Russia? And I think that you don't understand modern Russia.
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Message 1882026 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 11:32:29 UTC - in response to Message 1882013.  

100% correct.

LOL. Do you really know the history of Russia? And I think that you don't understand modern Russia.

LOL:) Does Russians know their own history?
First of all Russians don't separate old and modern history.
A Swedish military attache met not so long a Russian attache who lost his father during WWII.
Since Sweden exported iron ore to Germany and the father was hit by a German tank and therefore is the Swedish attache guilty...
Russians even believe that Sweden's Russiophobia is because we lost the battle in Poltava 1709 in Ukraine:)

Earlier, Russia and Ukraine took their conflict to a new battlefield: Twitter. It happened after Russian President Vladimir Putin during his meeting with the newly-elected French leader Emmanuel Macron had claimed that the daughter of Yaroslav the Wise, Anne de Kiev was "Russian."

Putin also claims that Vladimir the Great was "Russian" and therefore rise a statue of him in Moscow:)
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Message 1882060 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 14:58:55 UTC - in response to Message 1882043.  

And your posts confirm what we are saying.

Delusion can be steady but this stability don't make delusion true.
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