Question : Why does Air Asia fight have Qantus's designation QZ ?
does Qantus own this airline ?

Qantas is QF not QZ.

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Well, I'm glad they found it but sad about the circumstances. First day of ground school I was taught not to fly into a storm cell if it could be avoided.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Question : Why does Air Asia fight have Qantus's designation QZ ?
does Qantus own this airline ?

Qantas is QF not QZ.

Gary you do not seem to be dyslexic, Glenn claims to be. That to me explains alot.

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Gary you do not seem to be dyslexic, Glenn claims to be. That to me explains alot.

Funny, I think I am dyslexic, but you don't see me before spell check. When I'm tired it shows more. At least I don't have a lot of trouble with numbers, being as I do crunch them.

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well as people have said i am disxlexic and as i have said i can read something and proof check and spell check and still get it wrong so Gary it did not register that Qantas uses QF i looked and see QF not QZ this is what dislexia is you see the wrong letter even if your carefull and proof read it . So no need to be smart alex it was a genuine question my brain or eye s what ever saw QF even if it was actually QZ but my brain didn't see the Z as anything other than a F so it was a genuine question even if the answers are from people being smart alex whom think they know everything or are not true dislexic people but use it as a cruch, excuse

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- This morning we brought in a total of four bodies and one of them wore a lifejacket, says Tatang Zaenudin, spokesperson for Indonesia's rescue authority.
That a person found with life jackets suggest that the accident was so protracted that the crew on board had time to give instructions to the emergency situation.

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Reports are confusing. There was a denial that a lifejacket was on one of the bodies. Plus the plane debris was found close to the point of last contact which suggests that it came down quickly. This plane has a glide ratio of around 15 or MORE--it could have moved up to 100 miles without power. Yesterday the news was 40 bodies were found--today it was 7.

It will be a while before we can get an accurate description of what happened.

Reports are confusing. There was a denial that a lifejacket was on one of the bodies. Plus the plane debris was found close to the point of last contact which suggests that it came down quickly. This plane has a glide ratio of around 15 or MORE--it could have moved up to 100 miles without power. Yesterday the news was 40 bodies were found--today it was 7.
It will be a while before we can get an accurate description of what happened.

Yes. Probably a translation problem of what Tatang Zaenudin said.
An Indonesian rescue authority rejected on Wednesday afternoon reports that one of the people who salvaged from the water wearing life jackets.
- None of the victims have been found with life jackets, says Authority spokesperson, Tatang Zaenudin, told Reuters.
Radar data seem to show that Air Asia flights QZ8501 conducted a very steep climb before the aircraft crashed, reports Reuters.

How Sad :((((

30 AirAsia crash victims now recovered; officials say some belted in seats

After nearly a week of searching for the victims of AirAsia Flight 8501, rescue teams battling monsoon rains had their most successful day yet on Friday, more than tripling the number of bodies pulled from the Java Sea so far. An Indonesian navy official said some of the dead were still strapped to their seats.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-air-asia-search-20150102-story.html

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Now for the "why did it happen" phase of the story. Airliners usually carry enough fuel to be able to go around large concentrations of bad weather and like I noted previously a prospective pilot learns on the first day of ground school that flying into a storm cell is the worst option on the table. But for some reason many pilots think they are capable of flying a plane where others can't or won't.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Now some weird news are coming in...
A Mysterious Chinese blogger apparently predicted the fate of AirAsia flight QZ8501 two weeks before the tragic incident occurred.
The Chinese poster warned against using AirAsia passenger airliners, referring to a shadow organization "The International Black Hand."
The International Business Times cites the original post written in Chinese: "Black Hand hijacked and shot down MH370 and MH17. This has pretty much killed the 6th largest airline – Malaysian airline."
http://sputniknews.com/asia/20141230/1016394698.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxMgNiqHT8

Now some weird news are coming in...
A Mysterious Chinese blogger apparently predicted the fate of AirAsia flight QZ8501 two weeks before the tragic incident occurred.
The Chinese poster warned against using AirAsia passenger airliners, referring to a shadow organization "The International Black Hand."
The International Business Times cites the original post written in Chinese: "Black Hand hijacked and shot down MH370 and MH17. This has pretty much killed the 6th largest airline – Malaysian airline."
http://sputniknews.com/asia/20141230/1016394698.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxMgNiqHT8

Think that person must of got banned from ats for being to loony and one of them people who got to see a conspiracy theory everywhere . I think it was just a tragic accident that happened , at least the families can have some sort of closure with what happened unlike the first crash

Report.

AirAsia used unauthorized route on day of crash

AirAsia is under investigation by the Indonesian Transport Ministry following a Friday news report that the airline wasn’t authorized to fly the Surabaya-to-Singapore route the day doomed Flight 8501 went down over the Java Sea.

http://nypost.com/2015/01/03/airasia-used-unauthorized-route-on-day-of-crash-report/

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AirAsia is under investigation by the Indonesian Transport Ministry following a Friday news report that the airline wasn’t authorized to fly the Surabaya-to-Singapore route the day doomed Flight 8501 went down over the Java Sea.

So they couldn't file a flight plan and have the control tower say "cleared for take off?" Right, they weren't "authorized."

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AirAsia used unauthorized route on day of crash
AirAsia is under investigation by the Indonesian Transport Ministry following a Friday news report that the airline wasn’t authorized to fly the Surabaya-to-Singapore route the day doomed Flight 8501 went down over the Java Sea.
http://nypost.com/2015/01/03/airasia-used-unauthorized-route-on-day-of-crash-report/

Yes the Malaysian budget airline was only permitted to fly the route on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, according to a report from the Indonesian news organization BeritaSatu.
But bad weather can happen every weekday...

Gary it would not be the first time a plane has done that , taken off with out it being authorized , we are talking about Indo here not Europe or Australia or America so i am not surprised at all this sort of accusation has come up

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Gary it would not be the first time a plane has done that , taken off with out it being authorized , we are talking about Indo here not Europe or Australia or America so i am not surprised at all this sort of accusation has come up

Seems to have been missed. "Cleared for takeoff" is short for you have been granted official permission, clearance, for takeoff. The flight was authorized, but not by "the right people." In any case, it has nothing to do with the safety of operations, just tax revenue. It isn't like they hid anything; they filed a flight plan and published a tariff.

There is standard phrase when it is okay to do something, but you aren't being cleared to do it. "Operation approved as requested." Which simply means, I don't know why you can't, but I can't give you a clearance to do it. Heard that one at an airport where the runway was blocked by an accident, and operations continued off a parallel taxiway. It is also frequently used in weather avoidance, where the pilot requests to deviate say 10 degrees right.

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The weather conditions was the trigger when an Air Asia plane crashed in the Java Sea last weekend. Icing may have damaged the engines, according to Indonesian weather service BMKG.
It emphasizes, however, that's only one of the possible scenarios that may have occurred.
The plane with 162 people on board disappeared, probably since it ended up in a storm cell. The pilot had requested twice to fly higher to avoid the weather system, but his request was rejected because it was a lot of traffic in the airspace above.

AirAsia crash 'not due to terrorism' - investigators

Indonesian investigators said the crash of AirAsia QZ8501 was not likely due to terrorism, in their first remarks since analysing the cockpit voice recorder.

Transport safety committee investigator Andreas Hananto told the BBC that there were also indications that the plane encountered bad weather.

The plane is thought to have gone down on 28 December when it encountered difficulties from an approaching storm.

All 162 people onboard the flight from Surabaya to Singapore perished.

Two more bodies were recovered on Monday, bringing the total found so far to 53.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30875973

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update.

AirAsia flight QZ8501 'climbed too fast'

The AirAsia flight that crashed in the Java Sea, killing 162 people, climbed too fast before stalling, Indonesia's transport minister has said.

Ignasius Jonan told a parliamentary hearing in Jakarta that flight QZ8501 had ascended at a speed of 6,000ft (1,828m) per minute.

No passenger or fighter jet would attempt to climb so fast, he said.

There were no survivors when the plane crashed on 28 December, en route from Surabaya to Singapore.

The Airbus A320-200 is thought to have encountered difficulties from an approaching storm.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30902237

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